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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:14 am

And what does Rupert Murdoch have to say about this?

Let us look:

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"Al Queda" massacre ? How nicely suggestive.
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Postby Hippostania » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:19 am

The Alma Mater wrote:And what does Rupert Murdoch have to say about this?

Let us look:

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"Al Queda" massacre ? How nicely suggestive.

I find the camping advert much more ironic.
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Postby GraySoap » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:23 am

Oh my God guys, read the existing reports already. So far the only suspect they have is already in custody and a Norwegian citizen who admired among others Max Manus, Winston Churchill and quoted John Stuart Mill while expressing nationalist and anti-Muslim viewpoints. I really don't think from the evidence given, thus far, that he is an extreme nationalist. Nor can we say that his political beliefs were the sole inspiration for his actions. They do not know if he acted alone, but this man was at least connected to both attacks (the bombings in Oslo and the Utoya shootings). This whole thing just reeks.

PS: I bet that Sun was written yesterday, and before the Norwegian police held a press conference. Not some Murdochian scheme.
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Postby Vecherd » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:37 am

I is atleast 91 dead now.
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Postby Laerod » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:39 am

GraySoap wrote:PS: I bet that Sun was written yesterday, and before the Norwegian police held a press conference. Not some Murdochian scheme.

There's really no excuse for attributing the attack to anyone even in quotation marks until more is known.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:42 am

GraySoap wrote:PS: I bet that Sun was written yesterday, and before the Norwegian police held a press conference.


No doubt. But they knew he was a blonde Norwegian - says so right in the article. And yet they deemed it necessary to suggest it had to be a muslim, instead of even considering a right-wing christian ;)
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Postby Vellosia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:05 am

So, 91 confirmed dead so far and a suspect who is being described as a far-right fundamentalist Christian, who also happens to be interested in bodybuilding and freemasonry.
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Postby Risottia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:17 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:It's fantastic, actually. Not that I want people to die, but I think that the West needs to be attacked in order to finally realise that they're at war.


I fully support this statement.
Given that the killer is a fundie protestant Christian and an ultra-right-winger, guess with whom we should consider ourselves to be at war now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
It's clear that the Christians, which started infiltrating our society between 2000 and 1000 years ago, have done nothing to integrate themselves into the European culture.

I also say we target the schools that produce fundie spree killers. Ideology-spreading centers, similar to the one that formed Breivik, are spread all over Europe. Close them all and jail the teachers. Or at least put them all under police scrutiny, and tap their communications. Also double-check the families.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo_Commerce_School

Let's arrest all the suspects, all over Europe, and deport them to a non-European territory that's under some sort of European control. I propose an internation camp in Greenland. Or maybe at Jan Mayen.

(let's see how long it will take people to guess I'm being sarcastic)
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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:36 am

The Alma Mater wrote:And what does Rupert Murdoch have to say about this?

Let us look:

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"Al Queda" massacre ? How nicely suggestive.


Did The Sun change their headline? It reads "Hunter Killer" on their site now.

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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:38 am

Risottia wrote:
Sun Aut Ex wrote:It's fantastic, actually. Not that I want people to die, but I think that the West needs to be attacked in order to finally realise that they're at war.


I fully support this statement.
Given that the killer is a fundie protestant Christian and an ultra-right-winger, guess with whom we should consider ourselves to be at war now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
It's clear that the Christians, which started infiltrating our society between 2000 and 1000 years ago, have done nothing to integrate themselves into the European culture.

I also say we target the schools that produce fundie spree killers. Ideology-spreading centers, similar to the one that formed Breivik, are spread all over Europe. Close them all and jail the teachers. Or at least put them all under police scrutiny, and tap their communications. Also double-check the families.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo_Commerce_School

Let's arrest all the suspects, all over Europe, and deport them to a non-European territory that's under some sort of European control. I propose an internation camp in Greenland. Or maybe at Jan Mayen.

(let's see how long it will take people to guess I'm being sarcastic)


Grow up.
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Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:43 am

Risottia wrote:
Sun Aut Ex wrote:It's fantastic, actually. Not that I want people to die, but I think that the West needs to be attacked in order to finally realise that they're at war.


I fully support this statement.
Given that the killer is a fundie protestant Christian and an ultra-right-winger, guess with whom we should consider ourselves to be at war now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
It's clear that the Christians, which started infiltrating our society between 2000 and 1000 years ago, have done nothing to integrate themselves into the European culture.

I also say we target the schools that produce fundie spree killers. Ideology-spreading centers, similar to the one that formed Breivik, are spread all over Europe. Close them all and jail the teachers. Or at least put them all under police scrutiny, and tap their communications. Also double-check the families.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo_Commerce_School

Let's arrest all the suspects, all over Europe, and deport them to a non-European territory that's under some sort of European control. I propose an internation camp in Greenland. Or maybe at Jan Mayen.

(let's see how long it will take people to guess I'm being sarcastic)

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Postby Meowfoundland » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:44 am

Risottia wrote:
Sun Aut Ex wrote:It's fantastic, actually. Not that I want people to die, but I think that the West needs to be attacked in order to finally realise that they're at war.


I fully support this statement.
Given that the killer is a fundie protestant Christian and an ultra-right-winger, guess with whom we should consider ourselves to be at war now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
It's clear that the Christians, which started infiltrating our society between 2000 and 1000 years ago, have done nothing to integrate themselves into the European culture.

I also say we target the schools that produce fundie spree killers. Ideology-spreading centers, similar to the one that formed Breivik, are spread all over Europe. Close them all and jail the teachers. Or at least put them all under police scrutiny, and tap their communications. Also double-check the families.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo_Commerce_School

Let's arrest all the suspects, all over Europe, and deport them to a non-European territory that's under some sort of European control. I propose an internation camp in Greenland. Or maybe at Jan Mayen.

(let's see how long it will take people to guess I'm being sarcastic)


That was incredibly well put.
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Postby Laerod » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:46 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:Grow up.

Stick to your words now.

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:47 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Risottia wrote:
I fully support this statement.
Given that the killer is a fundie protestant Christian and an ultra-right-winger, guess with whom we should consider ourselves to be at war now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
It's clear that the Christians, which started infiltrating our society between 2000 and 1000 years ago, have done nothing to integrate themselves into the European culture.

I also say we target the schools that produce fundie spree killers. Ideology-spreading centers, similar to the one that formed Breivik, are spread all over Europe. Close them all and jail the teachers. Or at least put them all under police scrutiny, and tap their communications. Also double-check the families.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo_Commerce_School

Let's arrest all the suspects, all over Europe, and deport them to a non-European territory that's under some sort of European control. I propose an internation camp in Greenland. Or maybe at Jan Mayen.

(let's see how long it will take people to guess I'm being sarcastic)


Grow up.

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Postby Risottia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:50 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Risottia wrote:I fully support this statement. ...

Grow up.


So, war against ebil m00zlem terrorists is ok, but war against ebil xtian rightwinger terrorists is a no-go?
Weird.
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Postby Jalain » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:54 am

I will see on the sportsnews but after the bomb attack they only view that on TV2. But a little bit of my family live in Oslo, so good luck too them.
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Postby Trotskylvania » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:54 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Rambhutan wrote:It is being reported by the BBC he is an extreme right-wing nationalist fundamentalist Christian


Well, it is Norway. ANY nationalism is extreme nationalism to them.

Just keep digging that hole deeper, Sunny.
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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:54 am

Risottia wrote:So, war against ebil m00zlem terrorists is ok, but war against ebil xtian rightwinger terrorists is a no-go?
Weird.


So in your mind, people who attack and threaten lots of times are EXACTLY the same as people who come right out of left field and are completely unknown?
Strykyh wrote:I wasn't trying to be intelligent.

Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:57 am

Trotskylvania wrote:Just keep digging that hole deeper, Sunny.


Go away, Stalinist.
Strykyh wrote:I wasn't trying to be intelligent.

Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Postby Retoa » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:57 am

87 dead now? Holy shit....
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:58 am

Retoa wrote:87 dead now? Holy shit....

Someone was saying 91. Pretty impressive for one man to do if you ask me.
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Postby Laerod » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:59 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Risottia wrote:So, war against ebil m00zlem terrorists is ok, but war against ebil xtian rightwinger terrorists is a no-go?
Weird.


So in your mind, people who attack and threaten lots of times are EXACTLY the same as people who come right out of left field and are completely unknown?

Moving goalposts.

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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:59 am

Laerod wrote:Moving goalposts.


How, exactly, you liar?

I'm sure how it works in your PC world, but here in the real world, group who crime crime MORE often tend to be suspected MORE often than groups who commit crimes LESS often.
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Strykyh wrote:I wasn't trying to be intelligent.

Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Postby Trotskylvania » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:01 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Risottia wrote:
I fully support this statement.
Given that the killer is a fundie protestant Christian and an ultra-right-winger, guess with whom we should consider ourselves to be at war now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
It's clear that the Christians, which started infiltrating our society between 2000 and 1000 years ago, have done nothing to integrate themselves into the European culture.

I also say we target the schools that produce fundie spree killers. Ideology-spreading centers, similar to the one that formed Breivik, are spread all over Europe. Close them all and jail the teachers. Or at least put them all under police scrutiny, and tap their communications. Also double-check the families.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo_Commerce_School

Let's arrest all the suspects, all over Europe, and deport them to a non-European territory that's under some sort of European control. I propose an internation camp in Greenland. Or maybe at Jan Mayen.

(let's see how long it will take people to guess I'm being sarcastic)


Grow up.

Your first.
Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Risottia wrote:So, war against ebil m00zlem terrorists is ok, but war against ebil xtian rightwinger terrorists is a no-go?
Weird.


So in your mind, people who attack and threaten lots of times are EXACTLY the same as people who come right out of left field and are completely unknown?

The number of foiled or successful terrorist attacks in the Eurozone, by type:
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Postby Laerod » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:01 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Laerod wrote:Moving goalposts.


How, exactly?

You claimed it was a muslim plot and stuck to it for the longest time. Turns out you fell flat on your face so now you're trying to cover. No one here feels sorry for you. So, in your words: "Grow up."

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