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Bomb attack on Oslo, Norway. At least 87 dead.

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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:35 am

Well, I'll admit it, I was wrong on this one. But you know, when you're betting on the Golden Magyars, and they've won the past 50 something games in a row, you don't stop when they're on such a good winning streak.

Besides, I never actually said that the guy was definitely Muslim, so I don't see why exactly you guys think you' are "rubbing it in my face". I said that the first people in the thread would be the ones shouting "NO! It can't be the Muslim! They're all so peaceful and harmless". And they were the first ones in the thread.

Gauthier wrote:A Muslim hating nationalist goes on a killing spree and Sunny goes quiet. Coincidence?


You're right, it's not like us ebil Muslim oppressing fascist need to sleep sometimes.

Libera Patria wrote:''I have a message for the ones who attacked, a message for the ones behind this. A message from the whole of Norway. You will NOT destroy our democracy and our commitment to the world. We are a small, but proud nation. No-one will bomb us into silence.'' - Jenst Stoltenberg, norwegian prime minister. This gave me, as a proud norwegian, goosebumps.


The irony, it is fucking hilarious.
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Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:38 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:Well, I'll admit it, I was wrong on this one. But you know, when you're betting on the Golden Magyars, and they've won the past 50 something games in a row, you don't stop when they're on such a good winning streak.


Except the statistics suggest t3h ebul Muslims are the Washington Generals, but keep betting on that pony if you like.
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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:40 am

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Except the statistics suggest t3h ebul Muslims are the Washington Generals, but keep betting on that pony if you like.


Those statistics are complete rubbish. If they were true, we'd either a) be having attacks from non-Muslim groups every second day, or b) would have never have had any Muslim attacks in the last 10 years.

But then, you'd like us to forget 9/11, 7/7 and the Spanish train bombings, wouldn't you?
Strykyh wrote:I wasn't trying to be intelligent.

Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:43 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Except the statistics suggest t3h ebul Muslims are the Washington Generals, but keep betting on that pony if you like.


Those statistics are complete rubbish. If they were true, we'd either a) be having attacks from non-Muslim groups every second day, or b) would have never have had any Muslim attacks in the last 10 years.

But then, you'd like us to forget 9/11, 7/7 and the Spanish train bombings, wouldn't you?


Perhaps that has to do more the Muslim groups being more successful and having more ambition in terms of scale of attacks planned.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:44 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Except the statistics suggest t3h ebul Muslims are the Washington Generals, but keep betting on that pony if you like.


Those statistics are complete rubbish. If they were true, we'd either a) be having attacks from non-Muslim groups every second day, or b) would have never have had any Muslim attacks in the last 10 years.

But then, you'd like us to forget 9/11, 7/7 and the Spanish train bombings, wouldn't you?


Which is about 500 deaths a year on average, right ?
How does that compare to the competition ?
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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:46 am

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Perhaps that has to do more the Muslim groups being more successful and having more ambition in terms of scale of attacks planned.


So in your mind, it's worst to try more often but fail miserably, like a Power Rangers villain, than to try less often and then succeed brilliantly?
Strykyh wrote:I wasn't trying to be intelligent.

Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:47 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Perhaps that has to do more the Muslim groups being more successful and having more ambition in terms of scale of attacks planned.


So in your mind, it's worst to try more often but fail miserably, like a Power Rangers villain, than to try less often and then succeed brilliantly?


No. :eyebrow:
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Postby Alyakia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:49 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Except the statistics suggest t3h ebul Muslims are the Washington Generals, but keep betting on that pony if you like.


Those statistics are complete rubbish. If they were true, we'd either a) be having attacks from non-Muslim groups every second day, or b) would have never have had any Muslim attacks in the last 10 years.

But then, you'd like us to forget 9/11, 7/7 and the Spanish train bombings, wouldn't you?


Are you talking about the FBI statistics or Europol statistics?
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Postby Volmachtia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:50 am

That sucks.

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Postby Liberal World Order » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:53 am

No muslim terrorists guys, only one crazy son of a bitch extreme right wing terrorist
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Postby Hippostania » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:56 am

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Postby Volmachtia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:56 am

Liberal World Order wrote:No muslim terrorists guys, only one crazy son of a bitch extreme right wing terrorist

Or just a general psycho, no need for anyone to make it their propaganda. I hate it when that shit happens.

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Postby The Archregimancy » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:56 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:Well, I'll admit it, I was wrong on this one. But you know, when you're betting on the Golden Magyars, and they've won the past 50 something games in a row, you don't stop when they're on such a good winning streak.


Bad analogy from your point of view - because it suggests that once the winning streak comes to an end, as in a sporting analogy it inevitably must, they'll never do anything significant ever again.

Although maybe you see Puskás subsequently playing for Spain as a sign that extremist jihadists will eventually convert to Christianity?

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Postby GraySoap » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:57 am

Oh my God, my brother likes Dexter and plays World of Warcraft, is he the next spree killer? Thanks aftonbladet!

This is ridiculous. What motivates a person to kill 80 in cold blood? I have heart felt political convictions, but no matter what I thought I wouldn't kill for them. I don't know anyone that admits they would. In fact, I'm pretty sure most people recognize that if someone with your convictions does a heinous crime it'd be bad for the movement as a whole. So let me put it simply, there was something else that aided this man's ability to kill. There are plenty of people with similar political thoughts that have never killed a person, no less 80 children and young adults. All this political rhetoric and dehumanization is disgusting.

Also as I said earlier, calling every mass murderer insane does no service to find their motives nor prevent future incidents. Though, I'd hazard to guess a lot of them are.
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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:59 am

Liberal World Order wrote:No muslim terrorists guys, only one crazy son of a bitch extreme right wing terrorist


I wouldn't say that's so cut and dry. He's also apparently anti-Nazi.
Strykyh wrote:I wasn't trying to be intelligent.

Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Postby The Archregimancy » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:03 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:So... yeah, Islamic 'terror' is a massively overblown threat. The pretense that terrorism is (or has been ) an Islamic phenomenon, and that non-Islamic terror is the rule, rather than the exception... is just that. Pretense.


It's perhaps also worth mentioning in passing that modern suicide bombing techniques were invented by a political movement associated with an overwhelmingly Hindu ethnic group, and were initially used against Buddhists and Muslims.

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Postby Liberal World Order » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:03 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Liberal World Order wrote:No muslim terrorists guys, only one crazy son of a bitch extreme right wing terrorist


I wouldn't say that's so cut and dry. He's also apparently anti-Nazi.


He confirmed it :eyebrow:
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Postby Rambhutan » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:06 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Liberal World Order wrote:No muslim terrorists guys, only one crazy son of a bitch extreme right wing terrorist


I wouldn't say that's so cut and dry. He's also apparently anti-Nazi.


It is being reported by the BBC he is an extreme right-wing nationalist fundamentalist Christian
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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:07 am

Rambhutan wrote:It is being reported by the BBC he is an extreme right-wing nationalist fundamentalist Christian


Well, it is Norway. ANY nationalism is extreme nationalism to them.
Strykyh wrote:I wasn't trying to be intelligent.

Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Postby Alyakia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:08 am

Alyakia wrote:
Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Those statistics are complete rubbish. If they were true, we'd either a) be having attacks from non-Muslim groups every second day, or b) would have never have had any Muslim attacks in the last 10 years.

But then, you'd like us to forget 9/11, 7/7 and the Spanish train bombings, wouldn't you?


Are you talking about the FBI statistics or Europol statistics?

Don't be shy. ):
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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:10 am

Alyakia wrote:Don't be shy. ):


Whichever ones it is that say Muslims never do anything.
Strykyh wrote:I wasn't trying to be intelligent.

Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:10 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Rambhutan wrote:It is being reported by the BBC he is an extreme right-wing nationalist fundamentalist Christian


Well, it is Norway. ANY nationalism is extreme nationalism to them.


Am I to understand that killing over 80 left-wing kids is not in any way extreme according to you ?
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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:11 am

The Alma Mater wrote:Am I to understand that killing over 80 left-wing kids is not in any way extreme according to you ?


I didn't say that.
Strykyh wrote:I wasn't trying to be intelligent.

Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Postby Alyakia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:12 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Alyakia wrote:Don't be shy. ):


Whichever ones it is that say Muslims never do anything.

Funilly enough, none of them said that.
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Postby Perahikia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:14 am

It was not muslims. Propably it was right-wing radicals. There was also attack in the meeting of leftist youth.

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