Bomb attack on Oslo, Norway. At least 87 dead.

[Mosasauria]

Source?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14259356

the neo-nazi bit is mostly conjecture based on information available.

Seems like this was in connection with the bombings...

[Tekania]

First, there's no indication the shooter was also the bomber. Second, how is this not terrorism? A bomb was detonated outside a government building, and the members of the Labour Party youth wing were massacred. It's pretty straightforward political violence, possibly a group activity.

Violence and/or damage to property to attempt to institute change in the policy or behaviour of a government? Almost definitively 'terrorism', isn't it?

Don't you know, it's not terrorism when European Nationalists do it.

[New Freedomstan]

It seems to have been because he thought the Labour Party (ie, the government) are to soft on muslims.

Source please? So far everything about this storing mentioned earlier has been, more or less wrong. First it was Muslim terrorists, then a gang of Neo-Nazis, and now just some guy who appears to have been very upset... about something.

http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/arti ... d=10080610
It's norwegian. The title is "Arrested 32 year old called himself nationalistic".

"I nettdebatter markerer Anders Behring Breivik seg som belest, og en med sterke meninger om norsk politikk. Han fremmer svært konservative meninger, som han også kaller nasjonalistiske. Han uttrykker seg sterkt imot multikulturalisme - at kulturelle forskjeller kan leve sammen i et samfunn."

"Breivik har blant annet hatt mange innlegg på nettstedet Document.no, som er et islamkritisk nettsted som publiserer nyheter og kommentarer."

"Anders Behring Breivik har også kommentert på svenske nyhetsartikler, der han gjør det klart at han mener mediene har sviktet ved ikke å være «nok» islamkritiske."

Rough translation:
"In internetdebates Anders Behring Breivik marks himself out as well-read, and one who has strong opinions on norwegian politics. He has very conservative opinions, which he also calls nationalistic. He voices himself strongly against multiculturalism - that cultural differences can live together in a society"

"Breivik has, among other things, had many posts on the site Document.no, which is an islamcritical website which publish news and commentaries"

"Anders Behring Breivik have also commented swedish news articles, where he makes it clear that he is of the opinion that the media/press have failed by not being critical enough off islam"

[Derpusherpus]

Read the news before posting FFS!!!!!!

[Derpusherpus]

Unno if I'd call it terrorism, bro. I think the guy is just a psycho with a conviction.

First, there's no indication the shooter was also the bomber. Second, how is this not terrorism? A bomb was detonated outside a government building, and the members of the Labour Party youth wing were massacred. It's pretty straightforward political violence, possibly a group activity.

Both attacks were perpetrated by the same person. The news, read it.
Ok yes, it was terrorism.

[Glorious Norway]

First, there's no indication the shooter was also the bomber. Second, how is this not terrorism? A bomb was detonated outside a government building, and the members of the Labour Party youth wing were massacred. It's pretty straightforward political violence, possibly a group activity.

Both attacks were perpetrated by the same person. The news, read them.
Ok yes, it was terrorism.

Granted, they have not yet ruled out the option that he was not alone. Although it seems to be so at this time.

[Veblenia]

First, there's no indication the shooter was also the bomber. Second, how is this not terrorism? A bomb was detonated outside a government building, and the members of the Labour Party youth wing were massacred. It's pretty straightforward political violence, possibly a group activity.

Everything indicates that the shooter was also the bomber. Based on witness reports.

I hadn't seen that, but the coverage in Canada hasn't been great. Anyway, whether or not he had help, this is pretty clearly terrorism.

[Lackadaisical2]

i would still more suspect capitalism chauvanists, or even our (america's) own intelligence services (who ARE perfectly capable of attacking even an allie, if they thought that was what it would take to keep them supporting an overly long extended knee-jerk military over reaction).

but i also think, whatever actually happened, especially if it was the latter, some poor retarded person who forgot to take their pills that morning is who will officially end up getting blamed.

Finally, a voice of reason

If by reason you mean out of touch conjecture, sure. He probably believes we fired missiles into the WTC.

[GraySoap]

Nationalistic != Nazi, you'd be good at "Jumping to Conclusions!". Nazis are nationalistic, not all nationalists are Nazis. The fact that he killed ethnic Norwegians is a pretty strong contradiction to any alleged Nazism, at any rate. I was looking for snooty comments made by Norwegians during that whole Jared Loughner incident, but I'll take the high road... must stay on the high road.

[Herskerstad]

First, there's no indication the shooter was also the bomber. Second, how is this not terrorism? A bomb was detonated outside a government building, and the members of the Labour Party youth wing were massacred. It's pretty straightforward political violence, possibly a group activity.

Both attacks were perpetrated by the same person. The news, read it.
Ok yes, it was terrorism.

A bomb was also found in the same island the shooter was causing havoc, so that pretty much ties him to the first incident beyond a reasonable doubt.

[Glorious Norway]

Rumours say that witnesses have seen him talking on a mobile phone, which might indicate that he had help.

[Mosasauria]

Amazing what a single extremist can do.

[Grave_n_idle]

Rumours say that witnesses have seen him talking on a mobile phone, which might indicate that he had help.

It might. Or it might just mean he called someone.

[Veblenia]

Both attacks were perpetrated by the same person. The news, read it.
Ok yes, it was terrorism.

A bomb was also found in the same island the shooter was causing havoc, so that pretty much ties him to the first incident beyond a reasonable doubt.

I never claimed they weren't connected. I figured an accomplice might have planted the Oslo bomb.

[Gauthier]

A bomb was also found in the same island the shooter was causing havoc, so that pretty much ties him to the first incident beyond a reasonable doubt.

I never claimed they weren't connected. I figured an accomplice might have planted the Oslo bomb.

Given that he was in a police uniform and intended to evade capture, it's not completely farfetched that he could have planned the attacks in an attempt to blame it on "Muslim extremism" and thus provoke the government towards hardline immigration and cultural policies.

[Greed and Death]

Violence and/or damage to property to attempt to institute change in the policy or behaviour of a government? Almost definitively 'terrorism', isn't it?

Don't you know, it's not terrorism when European Nationalists do it.

It is called a Putsch I believe.

[Harata]

I never claimed they weren't connected. I figured an accomplice might have planted the Oslo bomb.

Given that he was in a police uniform and intended to evade capture, it's not completely farfetched that he could have planned the attacks in an attempt to blame it on "Muslim extremism" and thus provoke the government towards hardline immigration and cultural policies.

Or he might've worn the uniform to get close to the people he was trying to kill. Judging by the scope of the attacks it seems unlikely that he would've expected to be able to escape, disguise or no.

[Glorious Norway]

I never claimed they weren't connected. I figured an accomplice might have planted the Oslo bomb.

Given that he was in a police uniform and intended to evade capture, it's not completely farfetched that he could have planned the attacks in an attempt to blame it on "Muslim extremism" and thus provoke the government towards hardline immigration and cultural policies.

Somehow it seems far-fetched that a person honestly thinks he can kill 800 people before the police gets there, having no one who having seen him survive, and then evade the police.

[Derpusherpus]

http://www.document.no/anders-behring-breivik/

Some of the tard's poorly written hatespeech on the internet about
Muslims and the left.

[Glorious Norway]

Given that he was in a police uniform and intended to evade capture, it's not completely farfetched that he could have planned the attacks in an attempt to blame it on "Muslim extremism" and thus provoke the government towards hardline immigration and cultural policies.

Or he might've worn the uniform to get close to the people he was trying to kill. Judging by the scope of the attacks it seems unlikely that he would've expected to be able to escape, disguise or no.

He did wear the uniform for that reason. He came to the island, gathered the youth claiming to wanting to share information about the Oslo bombings, and then killed them, execution style.

Witness report: https://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/irik ... 180985.ece

- Jeg så en politimann stå der med ørepropper i ørene. Han sa «jeg vil gjerne samle alle sammen». Så løp han inn og begynte å skyte på folk. Da løp vi ned til stranda og begynte å svømme, forteller Hana.

I saw a police officer standing there with earplugs in his ears. He said 'I would like to gather them all'. Then he ran in and started to fire at people. Then we ran down to the beach and started to swim, says Hana.

The theory that he had help might not be so far-fetched after all. Does not sound like a regular phone conversation.

[Harata]

http://www.document.no/anders-behring-breivik/

Some of the tard's poorly written hatespeech on the internet about
Muslims and the left.

The weird thing is that this seems quite moderate in comparison to some things I've read by people who have never engaged in violence. It just seems very odd that he'd go from posting relatively docile things on the internet to killing scores of people.

[Gthanp]

Muslim apologists ahoy!

All I see are nazi apologists like you

[Glorious Norway]

Muslim apologists ahoy!

All I see are nazi apologists like you

It's the Jews nazis don't like.

[Derpusherpus]

Or he might've worn the uniform to get close to the people he was trying to kill. Judging by the scope of the attacks it seems unlikely that he would've expected to be able to escape, disguise or no.

He did wear the uniform for that reason. He came to the island, gathered the youth claiming to wanting to share information about the Oslo bombings, and then killed them, execution style.

He must've been using a fully automatic gun to get that many kills before they'd all fled. I thought automatic guns were extremely hard to get your hands on here unless you're in the army. He was not.

[Glorious Norway]

He did wear the uniform for that reason. He came to the island, gathered the youth claiming to wanting to share information about the Oslo bombings, and then killed them, execution style.

He must've been using a fully automatic gun to get that many kills before they'd all fled. I thought automatic guns were extremely hard to get your hands on here unless you're in the army. He was not.

I think I heard somewhere he killed roughly 10 people on that first encounter, and then proceeded to enter the buildings.

He brought with him a 'machine gun' or a rifle (unknown type), a shotgun and a handgun. Must have had massive amounts of ammunition as well.

It's not easy to get a hold of, but apparently (according to his Facebook page) he was involved in hunting.