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Bomb attack on Oslo, Norway. At least 87 dead.

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Postby Serrland » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:11 pm

Vecherd wrote:
Vecherd wrote:From twitter "Seven year old children had summer jobs collecting bottles at Utøya. At least two reported killed. #osloexpl"

Ill go source-hunt.


Norwegian source. It is indeed true. :(
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/artikkel.php?artid=10080673


Just when you think it can't get more heartbreaking...

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Postby Norse Scandinavia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:13 pm

Vecherd wrote:
Vecherd wrote:From twitter "Seven year old children had summer jobs collecting bottles at Utøya. At least two reported killed. #osloexpl"

Ill go source-hunt.


Norwegian source. It is indeed true. :(
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/artikkel.php?artid=10080673


This is just too fucked up. :(

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Postby Digger the Cat » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:15 pm

This is a little more significant for me because somebody from my region (Confederation of Nations) is actually FROM Norway.
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Postby Vestr-Norig » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:19 pm

Digger the Cat wrote:This is a little more significant for me because somebody from my region (Confederation of Nations) is actually FROM Norway.


Well, I am from Norway. Many in this forum is
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Postby Johz » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:20 pm

Keronians wrote:
Vestr-Norig wrote:
The video aboe was removed.
The place he worked was a multicultural buisness, with people from many nations. He also had a comrade from the middle east


:palm:

That doesn't mean anything. A person can be racist and have black friends.

Cue Prince Phil: "I'm not racist, my best friend's a paki..."

In terms of the article, I am truly amazed at the depths to which people will sink, given enough fear and ignorance.

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Derpusherpus wrote:Wow, the guy was Christian fundie as fuck.


Kinda sounds like some Christians are being radicalised and militantised... what's the Christian equivalent of Jihadi?

The closest I can think of would be either an eye for an eye, or something to do with the Israelite massacres of opposing nations. Neither have catchy names, so just go with crusader?
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Postby Derpusherpus » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:26 pm

Johz wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Kinda sounds like some Christians are being radicalised and militantised... what's the Christian equivalent of Jihadi?

The closest I can think of would be either an eye for an eye, or something to do with the Israelite massacres of opposing nations. Neither have catchy names, so just go with crusader?

Aye, that's the term he used himself.
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Postby Kapellen » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:28 pm

Vestr-Norig wrote:
Keronians wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQOfH8Dj1mw

The above didn't seem very tolerant.


The video aboe was removed.
The place he worked was a multicultural buisness, with people from many nations. He also had a comrade from the middle east


It seems that for him ideologies are more important than people instead of the other way around. Always a bad idea.

So he warns us for a demographic explosion of people believing in Islam, and ends up killing 84 Norwegian children and teenagers. Just to hit a political party that is, according to him, infested with 'cultural marxism' or whatever and doesn't want to fight Islam. That's what I can make of it. :blink:

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Postby Vestr-Norig » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:36 pm

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This is just too fucked up. :(


Indeed it is. Let us only hope he will be severely punished, if not on this eart, at least he will burn in all eternity in hell, while the devil grabs out his intestines with his bare hands, while chewing on them raw, putting them back in again and then doing it all over again, while that bastard is looking at it happen. May he rest in hell!
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Postby Derpusherpus » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:38 pm

His WoW character is apparently Conservatism on the Silvermoon-EU server. Holy fuck... I've talked to that guy!!!!!! He was well-known on the server.
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"The worst outcrop of herd life is the military system, which I abhor. That a man can take pleasure in marching in fours to the strains of a band is enough to make me despise him. He has only been given his big brain by mistake; unprotected spinal marrow was all he needed. This plague-spot of civilization ought to be abolished with all possible speed. Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism - how passionately I hate them! How vile and despicable war seems to me! I would rather be hacked in pieces than take part in such an abominable business." -Albert Einstein

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Postby Dakini » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:39 pm

Vestr-Norig wrote:
Norse Scandinavia wrote:
This is just too fucked up. :(


Indeed it is. Let us only hope he will be severely punished, if not on this eart, at least he will burn in all eternity in hell, while the devil grabs out his intestines with his bare hands, while chewing on them raw, putting them back in again and then doing it all over again, while that bastard is looking at it happen. May he rest in hell!

Yeah... he's a Christian, he just has to ask for forgiveness and then he's forgiven, remember?

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Postby Vestr-Norig » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:40 pm

Derpusherpus wrote:His WoW character is apparently Conservatism on the Silvermoon-EU server. Holy fuck... I've talked to that guy!!!!!!


You have? isn't there many millions who play that game? the chances of you talking with him would be.. at least very low
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Postby Derpusherpus » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:42 pm

Vestr-Norig wrote:
Derpusherpus wrote:His WoW character is apparently Conservatism on the Silvermoon-EU server. Holy fuck... I've talked to that guy!!!!!!


You have? isn't there many millions who play that game? the chances of you talking with him would be.. at least very low

Yes, I have. There are only a couple of thousand players on each server, and I played on his server. This guy was also well known on the server. Played alot, skilled and was active on the forum. Silvermoon is one of the most populated European WoW servers though.
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"The worst outcrop of herd life is the military system, which I abhor. That a man can take pleasure in marching in fours to the strains of a band is enough to make me despise him. He has only been given his big brain by mistake; unprotected spinal marrow was all he needed. This plague-spot of civilization ought to be abolished with all possible speed. Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism - how passionately I hate them! How vile and despicable war seems to me! I would rather be hacked in pieces than take part in such an abominable business." -Albert Einstein

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Postby Vestr-Norig » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:43 pm

Dakini wrote:
Vestr-Norig wrote:
Indeed it is. Let us only hope he will be severely punished, if not on this eart, at least he will burn in all eternity in hell, while the devil grabs out his intestines with his bare hands, while chewing on them raw, putting them back in again and then doing it all over again, while that bastard is looking at it happen. May he rest in hell!

Yeah... he's a Christian, he just has to ask for forgiveness and then he's forgiven, remember?


I am Christian too, I do not believe that it is that simple. What he did is unforgivable, no matter his case or insanity. He wil not be met by
St. Peter at the Pearly gates, only the devil will let him in to his empire, and there he shall stay in all eternity
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Postby Vestr-Norig » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:45 pm

Derpusherpus wrote:
Vestr-Norig wrote:
You have? isn't there many millions who play that game? the chances of you talking with him would be.. at least very low

Yes, I have. There are only a couple of thousand players on each server, and I played on his server. This guy was also well known on the server. Played alot, skilled and was active on the forum.


Wow, if what you say is true... that is very insane... I am talking to one that has talked to a mass murderer.... on the internet!
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Postby New Freedomstan » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:46 pm

Vestr-Norig wrote:
Dakini wrote:Yeah... he's a Christian, he just has to ask for forgiveness and then he's forgiven, remember?


I am Christian too, I do not believe that it is that simple. What he did is unforgivable, no matter his case or insanity. He wil not be met by
St. Peter at the Pearly gates, only the devil will let him in to his empire, and there he shall stay in all eternity

Didn't Jesus supposedly die for all our sins, though? And this mongrel has sinned heavily. I say we should let him fry in this life, just in case he is right.

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Postby Vecherd » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:46 pm

Derpusherpus wrote:
Vestr-Norig wrote:
You have? isn't there many millions who play that game? the chances of you talking with him would be.. at least very low

Yes, I have. There are only a couple of thousand players on each server, and I played on his server. This guy was also well known on the server. Played alot, skilled and was active on the forum. Silvermoon is one of the most populated European WoW servers though.


I also got a character on Silvermoon!! :O
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Postby Sunny Marionette » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:46 pm

Vestr-Norig wrote:
Dakini wrote:Yeah... he's a Christian, he just has to ask for forgiveness and then he's forgiven, remember?


I am Christian too, I do not believe that it is that simple. What he did is unforgivable, no matter his case or insanity. He wil not be met by
St. Peter at the Pearly gates, only the devil will let him in to his empire, and there he shall stay in all eternity

What denomination are you?
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Postby Derpusherpus » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:46 pm

Vestr-Norig wrote:
Derpusherpus wrote:Yes, I have. There are only a couple of thousand players on each server, and I played on his server. This guy was also well known on the server. Played alot, skilled and was active on the forum.


Wow, if what you say is true... that is very insane... I am talking to one that has talked to a mass murderer.... on the internet!

I recognized his character's name instantly even though the last time I played the game was in February. Feels weird, man. :blink:
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Postby Derpusherpus » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:47 pm

Vecherd wrote:
Derpusherpus wrote:Yes, I have. There are only a couple of thousand players on each server, and I played on his server. This guy was also well known on the server. Played alot, skilled and was active on the forum. Silvermoon is one of the most populated European WoW servers though.


I also got a character on Silvermoon!! :O

Did you recognize his character's name?
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Postby Vecherd » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:48 pm

Derpusherpus wrote:
Vecherd wrote:
I also got a character on Silvermoon!! :O

Did you recognize his character's name?


Im trying, I dont think Ive seen the person but I think I have seen the name a couple of times.
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Postby Vestr-Norig » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:49 pm

Sunny Marionette wrote:
Vestr-Norig wrote:
I am Christian too, I do not believe that it is that simple. What he did is unforgivable, no matter his case or insanity. He wil not be met by
St. Peter at the Pearly gates, only the devil will let him in to his empire, and there he shall stay in all eternity

What denomination are you?


I am a Lutheranist, but I do try to live by pietistic values: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pietism
Pietists believs that simply believing in God and meeting in Church is not good enough for getting to heaven, you have to live by Christian values too, and try as hard as you can not breaking its laws and rules.
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Postby Dakini » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:51 pm

Vestr-Norig wrote:
Dakini wrote:Yeah... he's a Christian, he just has to ask for forgiveness and then he's forgiven, remember?


I am Christian too, I do not believe that it is that simple. What he did is unforgivable, no matter his case or insanity. He wil not be met by
St. Peter at the Pearly gates, only the devil will let him in to his empire, and there he shall stay in all eternity

And according to your own theology, you don't get to judge where he goes.

Also, remove the plank from your own eye before removing the mote from your brother's yadda yadda...

Oh, also, according to the Bible, the devil isn't in charge of hell, he's a prisoner too.
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Postby Sunny Marionette » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:52 pm

Vestr-Norig wrote:
Sunny Marionette wrote:What denomination are you?


I am a Lutheranist, but I do try to live by pietistic values: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pietism
Pietists believs that simply believing in God and meeting in Church is not good enough for getting to heaven, you have to live by Christian values too, and try as hard as you can not breaking its laws and rules.

If it were like that, what good is death for your sins?
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Postby Derpusherpus » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:53 pm

Vecherd wrote:
Derpusherpus wrote:Did you recognize his character's name?


Im trying, I dont think Ive seen the person but I think I have seen the name a couple of times.

Did you play the first months after Cata hit? I know he was active back then, when I played.
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Postby Vestr-Norig » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:53 pm

Dakini wrote:
Vestr-Norig wrote:
I am Christian too, I do not believe that it is that simple. What he did is unforgivable, no matter his case or insanity. He wil not be met by
St. Peter at the Pearly gates, only the devil will let him in to his empire, and there he shall stay in all eternity

And according to your own theology, you don't get to judge where he goes.

Also, remove the plank from your own eye before removing the mote from your brother's yadda yadda...

Oh, also, according to the Bible, the devil isn't in charge of hell, he's a prisoner too.


I know, only God can judge him. This is only what I hope wil happen, even though I know hoping this is wrong.

And according to the Holy Bible, Satan was sent by God to rule over hell. I know he would rather stay in Heaven, though
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