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Postby Vestr-Norig » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:46 am

The Nordic Star Federation wrote:You do realise that no true Christian would do this.


I do (I am Christian, though), but I think many atheist and anti-Christianity people here would have hard for undersatnding that
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Postby Bafuria » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:47 am

No sane person would do that.

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Postby Derpusherpus » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:48 am

The Nordic Star Federation wrote:You do realise that no true Christian would do this.

I don't doubt the guy's religious conviction. What you probably mean is that most Christians don't support his actions.
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Postby French Union » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:48 am

Bafuria wrote:No sane person would do that.

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Just because you kill people doesn't mean you're insane.
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Postby Yuktova » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:51 am

87 dead? Ah fuck I haven't watched the news in a long time. Last time I checked, a day ago, it was one dead. Fuck.
I feel bad for the people in the boming, but I was a question. Why was Oslo, Norway attacked? Andwho did the bombing? I have a feling it ain't the Taliban...
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Postby Dakini » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:54 am

Yuktova wrote:87 dead? Ah fuck I haven't watched the news in a long time. Last time I checked, a day ago, it was one dead. Fuck.
I feel bad for the people in the boming, but I was a question. Why was Oslo, Norway attacked? Andwho did the bombing? I have a feling it ain't the Taliban...

I think most of the dead are from the shooting at the summer camp.

It wasn't the Taliban or any Muslim groups, so far it seems to be a right-wing Christian extremist. They don't know if he was working with a group or alone on this though.
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Postby Bafuria » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:54 am

French Union wrote:
Bafuria wrote:No sane person would do that.

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Just because you kill people doesn't mean you're insane.


True, but there is a difference between killing a man in the heat of the moment and planning a massacre of children.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:56 am

The Nordic Star Federation wrote:You do realise that no true Christian would do this.


It always fascinates me how religious people will throw that argument up.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:57 am

French Union wrote:
Bafuria wrote:No sane person would do that.

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Just because you kill people doesn't mean you're insane.


:blink:

So planning a massacre of children is what?
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Postby Yuktova » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:59 am

Dakini wrote:
Yuktova wrote:87 dead? Ah fuck I haven't watched the news in a long time. Last time I checked, a day ago, it was one dead. Fuck.
I feel bad for the people in the boming, but I was a question. Why was Oslo, Norway attacked? Andwho did the bombing? I have a feling it ain't the Taliban...

I think most of the dead are from the shooting at the summer camp.

It wasn't the Taliban or any Muslim groups, so far it seems to be a right-wing Christian extremist. They don't know if he was working with a group or alone on this though.

Well, somewhat glad it ain't the Taliban. If right-wing Christian extremists are so upset, they shoul just pack up and leave. Go and found some weird villiage where they worship pagan gods God.

Well, that least people can't claim Christianity is a religion of peace. Hmm, come to think of it, I don't think any religion is truely peaceful execpt for Buddhism. Maybe they should go meet The Dalhi Llama no?
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Postby Camicon » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:02 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
The Nordic Star Federation wrote:You do realise that no true Christian would do this.


It always fascinates me how religious people will throw that argument up.

Maybe because it's true. Part of being a Christian involves living the way that Jesus taught you. I don't believe he taught people to massacre 92 innocent strangers for shits-and-giggles.
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Postby Dakini » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:02 am

Yuktova wrote:
Dakini wrote:I think most of the dead are from the shooting at the summer camp.

It wasn't the Taliban or any Muslim groups, so far it seems to be a right-wing Christian extremist. They don't know if he was working with a group or alone on this though.

Well, somewhat glad it ain't the Taliban. If right-wing Christian extremists are so upset, they shoul just pack up and leave. Go and found some weird villiage where they worship pagan gods God.

Well, that least people can't claim Christianity is a religion of peace. Hmm, come to think of it, I don't think any religion is truely peaceful execpt for Buddhism. Maybe they should go meet The Dalhi Llama no?

Anyone paying attention for a while (who is also intellectually honest) should have noticed that Christians commit acts of terrorism too.

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Postby Laerod » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:03 am

The Nordic Star Federation wrote:
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You're just making shit up. Stop that.


I didn''t say whether this is what happened, only that it is a very good possibility. Just before this, the Europeans did destroy the tomb and body of Hitler's former top lieutenant and that has pissed off a lot of Neo Nazis and their sympathizers.

How do we know this attack was not retaliation for that?

This is ridiculous. We've heard rumors that he worshipped a Norwegian resistance fighter. It's doubtful that someone that does will speak nicely about the Nazis, even if they share plenty of ideological common ground.

Secondly, no one the fuck knew that Heß was exhumed, cremated, and buried at sea. And even if they did, the church that refused to extend his entombment or his family that requested the cremation and burial at sea would be prime targets, not Norway. I mean seriously. What the fuck does Norway have to do with Heß?

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:04 am

For us in the UK, it is now a double tragedy, with not only the loss of innocent lives in Norway, but also another great singer.

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Postby Yuktova » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:05 am

Dakini wrote:
Yuktova wrote: Well, somewhat glad it ain't the Taliban. If right-wing Christian extremists are so upset, they shoul just pack up and leave. Go and found some weird villiage where they worship pagan gods God.

Well, that least people can't claim Christianity is a religion of peace. Hmm, come to think of it, I don't think any religion is truely peaceful execpt for Buddhism. Maybe they should go meet The Dalhi Llama no?

Anyone paying attention for a while (who is also intellectually honest) should have noticed that Christians commit acts of terrorism too.

Every religion is violent execpt Buddhism. Maybe all religios people should turn Buddhist? Or at least smoke some weed, maybe the few of them will stop being racists?
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Postby Dakini » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:05 am

Camicon wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
It always fascinates me how religious people will throw that argument up.

Maybe because it's true. Part of being a Christian involves living the way that Jesus taught you. I don't believe he taught people to massacre 92 innocent strangers for shits-and-giggles.

Living the way Jesus taught you would also mean renouncing your possessions and devoting your life to helping those less fortunate.

Most people don't live the way Jesus taught, yet you're probably happy to call most people who claim to be Christians what they claim to be. You only refuse in this case because you disagree with how he failed to act like Jesus.

Also, no true Scotsman fallacy etc.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:06 am

Camicon wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
It always fascinates me how religious people will throw that argument up.

Maybe because it's true. Part of being a Christian involves living the way that Jesus taught you. I don't believe he taught people to massacre 92 innocent strangers for shits-and-giggles.


Sounds a little more like denial.

Muslims make it as well as being the Religion of peace. Suicide Bomber goes off or the Taliban executes some people.

"Well he wasn't a True Muslim"

Maybe the "true" followers have to accept more often then naught; the message was lost or worst perverted. Sitting on ones hands and claiming "he wasn't a true follower" doesn't really do much.
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Postby French Union » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:06 am

Bafuria wrote:
French Union wrote:
Just because you kill people doesn't mean you're insane.


True, but there is a difference between killing a man in the heat of the moment and planning a massacre of children.


Right...you can kill a bunch of people still and not be consider sane though. If they understand the act they did was "wrong" they wouldn't be consider insane.

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Postby Keronians » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:07 am

Yuktova wrote:87 dead? Ah fuck I haven't watched the news in a long time. Last time I checked, a day ago, it was one dead. Fuck.
I feel bad for the people in the boming, but I was a question. Why was Oslo, Norway attacked? Andwho did the bombing? I have a feling it ain't the Taliban...


92 dead, not 87.
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Postby French Union » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:08 am

Camicon wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
It always fascinates me how religious people will throw that argument up.

Maybe because it's true. Part of being a Christian involves living the way that Jesus taught you. I don't believe he taught people to massacre 92 innocent strangers for shits-and-giggles.


Their god wiped almost all life on a planet...

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Postby Derpusherpus » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:08 am

Laerod wrote:This is ridiculous. We've heard rumors that he worshipped a Norwegian resistance fighter. It's doubtful that someone that does will speak nicely about the Nazis, even if they share plenty of ideological common ground.

Yes. Among the "likes" on his Facebook profile was the film Max Manus, which is a biopic glorifying the resistance figher of the same name.
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Postby Risottia » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:09 am

Keronians wrote:
Risottia wrote:While he did post a goodbye/ragequit thread, looks like he didn't cancel his account...


You can't cancel your account, AFAIK.


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Postby Greater Cabinda » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:09 am

French Union wrote:
Camicon wrote:Maybe because it's true. Part of being a Christian involves living the way that Jesus taught you. I don't believe he taught people to massacre 92 innocent strangers for shits-and-giggles.


Their god wiped almost all life on a planet...

...and yet I don't think the Jews have any desire to kill everyone except an old guy on a boat along with 2 of every animal.
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Postby Laerod » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:12 am

Camicon wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
It always fascinates me how religious people will throw that argument up.

Maybe because it's true. Part of being a Christian involves living the way that Jesus taught you. I don't believe he taught people to massacre 92 innocent strangers for shits-and-giggles.

It also means you're not allowed to wear cotton polyester blends, but no one seems to care about that. Which is ironic; that prohibition is right next to "Love your neighbor as you love yourself" in Leviticus.

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