The BNP - Opinions?

[Neo-Sudan]

Can anyone name a country in the modern age that has successfully kept a homogenous racial and ethnic composition by active legislation?

Arab nations, China, and Israel.

[Valdanis]

Can anyone name a country in the modern age that has successfully kept a homogenous racial and ethnic composition by active legislation?

Arab nations, China, and Israel.

Say what? 20% of Israel is Arab, he asked for successful examples.

[-St George]

'People' are idiots. The general public are idiots. Think about it, those people that answer these polls about immigration, that appear in the Daily Fail, etc, are that chav family from down the estate, or the skinhead drunk in the local pub.

So everyone who is against tightening controls on immigration into a more controlled way, not stopping it outright just putting more controls on it, is an uneducated Chav or a Skinhead who hates foreigners? As opposed to people who acknowledging the benefits of Immigration but just want more control?

Do you live in an area with high amounts of Immigrants, or for lack of a better phrase, ethnic Minorities?

You are confusing support for the BNP and the policies espoused by the Daily Fail for support for a reduction of immigration. It was the former I was addressing. Of course some people want immigration to be reduced, and some people make good arguments. However, the fact remains that we have international commits and pledges on immigration, due to membership of the EU, and leadership of the Commonwealth. Further to this, even with unemployment at 70 year highs, immigrants are still finding employment. Why? Because a large number of the unemployed don't want/will not work in jobs they perceive as crap. So what is the Employment Officer at this places to do? Not hire anyone and hope that little Jimmy Eight Kids will get off his ass and and reject benefits in order to work a job he sees as 'crap', or hire Abdul, just off the both, with a work visa, who'll work for minimum wage?

Its funny in a sad way that Tories want competition in everything but the job market.

[Laerod]

Can anyone name a country in the modern age that has successfully kept a homogenous racial and ethnic composition by active legislation?

Arab nations, China, and Israel.

Hahaha! Not a single one of those is homogenous.

[EvilDarkMagicians]

Any party that would 'pay' certain people to move out of the country based on:

Their parents birth place or colour of their skin.

Should be mocked at every ample opportunity.

[Seigleterre]

[Molgravia]

Funny thing is, we've had black people in this country for literally centuries. For example, John Blanke:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/blackhistory/early_times/blanke.htm

Yes, but not in significant numbers until the 1950s (with the possible exception of black GIs and African/Caribbean commonwealth forces during WWI). Unless, of course, you want to count Numidian and African Roman Legionaries and Auxiliaries. Oriental ethnic groups have been much more prevelant in Britain, since at least the 19th Century.

[Truvada]

Yeah, because National Socialism worked so well for the 3rd Reich.

[Angleter]

So everyone who is against tightening controls on immigration into a more controlled way, not stopping it outright just putting more controls on it, is an uneducated Chav or a Skinhead who hates foreigners? As opposed to people who acknowledging the benefits of Immigration but just want more control?

Do you live in an area with high amounts of Immigrants, or for lack of a better phrase, ethnic Minorities?

You are confusing support for the BNP and the policies espoused by the Daily Fail for support for a reduction of immigration. It was the former I was addressing. Of course some people want immigration to be reduced, and some people make good arguments. However, the fact remains that we have international commits and pledges on immigration, due to membership of the EU, and leadership of the Commonwealth. Further to this, even with unemployment at 70 year highs, immigrants are still finding employment. Why? Because a large number of the unemployed don't want/will not work in jobs they perceive as crap. So what is the Employment Officer at this places to do? Not hire anyone and hope that little Jimmy Eight Kids will get off his ass and and reject benefits in order to work a job he sees as 'crap', or hire Abdul, just off the both, with a work visa, who'll work for minimum wage?

Its funny in a sad way that Tories want competition in everything but the job market.

The fact that we 'lead' the Commonwealth doesn't mean we have any commitment to them on immigration. The EU membership is an unfortunate commitment that we ought to remedy. And I'm all for allowing immigrants in to work here for a few months and then go home, but not for allowing them to stay for evermore if they so desire. Also, it may help if we actually encouraged Jimmy Eight Kids to get off his arse, instead of tolerating his conscious refusal to work.

[Alyakia]

You are confusing support for the BNP and the policies espoused by the Daily Fail for support for a reduction of immigration. It was the former I was addressing. Of course some people want immigration to be reduced, and some people make good arguments. However, the fact remains that we have international commits and pledges on immigration, due to membership of the EU, and leadership of the Commonwealth. Further to this, even with unemployment at 70 year highs, immigrants are still finding employment. Why? Because a large number of the unemployed don't want/will not work in jobs they perceive as crap. So what is the Employment Officer at this places to do? Not hire anyone and hope that little Jimmy Eight Kids will get off his ass and and reject benefits in order to work a job he sees as 'crap', or hire Abdul, just off the both, with a work visa, who'll work for minimum wage?

Its funny in a sad way that Tories want competition in everything but the job market.

The fact that we 'lead' the Commonwealth doesn't mean we have any commitment to them on immigration. The EU membership is an unfortunate commitment that we ought to remedy. And I'm all for allowing immigrants in to work here for a few months and then go home, but not for allowing them to stay for evermore if they so desire. Also, it may help if we actually encouraged Jimmy Eight Kids to get off his arse, instead of tolerating his conscious refusal to work.

Pull out of the EU and institute an eternal Tory regime and make sure immigrants can only work here then bugger off back home. Why? Why not!

Those damn welfare queens with their 12 kids refusing to work and living on government money. They totally exist and are large in number. Argh.

[Forster Keys]

Arab nations, China, and Israel.

Say what? 20% of Israel is Arab, he asked for successful examples.

North Korea.

Mostly because nobody wants to get into there but... its still homegenous right?

Maybe the BNP should take a cue off them?

[Liriena]

I would like to know what you think about the British National Party.
I personally find them as nothing more then racist cunts (Can I say that on this website? if not, sorry), and most people who are members of the BNP are racist ignorant people.

For example, the BNP song "Don't Unpack, You're Going Back" is one of the most idiotic and racist songs I have ever heard... I find it hard to believe people can like that song, let alone believe the things sung about, and what the party teaches! (For those who haven't heard it, here is a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OqkMjx0 ... re=related)

I think they should all be sent to jail for life, and deprived of any means to communicate with the public.
I mean, if you allow a group of people like this to actually participate in a democratic system, you are seriously jeopardizing Human Rights and Democracy.

[The House of Petain]

We're animaniacs
We have pay or play contracts
We're zany to the max
There's baloney in our snacks
We're animany
Totally insaney
Here's the shows name-y

Animaniacs
Those are the facts.

[Mosasauria]

They're just a bunch of pseudo-nationalist loons.

[Eine Heimat]

Horrible people.

[Cthag-antil]

Arab nations, China, and Israel.

Hahaha! Not a single one of those is homogenous.

Well...China is mostly Han Chinese?

Japan is highly homogenised.

[Cyber Utopia]

the Bigoted Numpty Party ololol

I think they should all be sent to jail for life, and deprived of any means to communicate with the public.
I mean, if you allow a group of people like this to actually participate in a democratic system, you are seriously jeopardizing Human Rights and Democracy.

Excluding people from democracy doesn't sound very democratic.

[Liriena]

the Bigoted Numpty Party ololol

I think they should all be sent to jail for life, and deprived of any means to communicate with the public.
I mean, if you allow a group of people like this to actually participate in a democratic system, you are seriously jeopardizing Human Rights and Democracy.

Excluding people from democracy doesn't sound very democratic.

I'm as open-minded as they come, but even the most liberal nations know how dangerous a neo-nazi group like this is.

[Wikipedia and Universe]

When I first heard of them, their ties to the AWB pretty much gave away to me who they are.

[Gauthier]

Every time there's an act of Islamic terrorism, the likes of the BNP are quick to jump on the "If they don't condemn it they in fact condone it" bandwagon. So did anyone else notice how the BNP didn't publically condemn Anders Breivik?

[Southern United Africa]

When I first heard of them, their ties to the AWB pretty much gave away to me who they are.

If you mean the AWB that I think you mean, then true fucking that!

[Serrland]

You are confusing support for the BNP and the policies espoused by the Daily Fail for support for a reduction of immigration. It was the former I was addressing. Of course some people want immigration to be reduced, and some people make good arguments. However, the fact remains that we have international commits and pledges on immigration, due to membership of the EU, and leadership of the Commonwealth. Further to this, even with unemployment at 70 year highs, immigrants are still finding employment. Why? Because a large number of the unemployed don't want/will not work in jobs they perceive as crap. So what is the Employment Officer at this places to do? Not hire anyone and hope that little Jimmy Eight Kids will get off his ass and and reject benefits in order to work a job he sees as 'crap', or hire Abdul, just off the both, with a work visa, who'll work for minimum wage?

Its funny in a sad way that Tories want competition in everything but the job market.

The fact that we 'lead' the Commonwealth doesn't mean we have any commitment to them on immigration. The EU membership is an unfortunate commitment that we ought to remedy. And I'm all for allowing immigrants in to work here for a few months and then go home, but not for allowing them to stay for evermore if they so desire. Also, it may help if we actually encouraged Jimmy Eight Kids to get off his arse, instead of tolerating his conscious refusal to work.

This is a debate I'm following pretty closely. I am very seriously considering a job hunt in the UK (either England or Scotland) if I don't get into or choose not to go to grad school ( a decision I have to make within the next months). The immigration question is fascinating to me and could really have an impact on my later life.

In hindsight, posting that was not at all necessary.

Anyways, as to the OP:

My opinion on the BNP is limited, as I haven't spent much time actually reading what THEY say about themselves, instead hearing mostly what OTHERS say about them so I try not to form too much of an opinion based on that. It seems they do a great job at shooting themselves in the foot every so often, though.

[The Matthew Islands]

This is a debate I'm following pretty closely. I am very seriously considering a job hunt in the UK (either England or Scotland) if I don't get into or choose not to go to grad school ( a decision I have to make within the next months). The immigration question is fascinating to me and could really have an impact on my later life.

Relax. As I pointed out before, people in Britain know that there are benefits to Immigration and more or less want Immigration to continue, just not at current levels and with more control.

[Serrland]

This is a debate I'm following pretty closely. I am very seriously considering a job hunt in the UK (either England or Scotland) if I don't get into or choose not to go to grad school ( a decision I have to make within the next months). The immigration question is fascinating to me and could really have an impact on my later life.

Relax. As I pointed out before, people in Britain know that there are benefits to Immigration and more or less want Immigration to continue, just not at current levels and with more control.

Indeed. I don't think I'll be barred from immigration or anything of that sort, and I'm by no means panicking, I'm just following with interest. Besides, it would be as a young professional with two solid college degrees, which I think would bode better for me than for certain immigrant groups.

[Ravea]

They are vicious racists who don't deserve to be in politics.