The BNP - Opinions?

[Molgravia]

How on earth are UKIP mental?

Nigel Farage. 'nuff said.

[Cthag-antil]

Not of the UK government.

Then what government?

The Mayor of London is not a member of the House of Commons, he is not part of the UK government.

He is a figurehead for the City of London and has limited powers.

[-St George]

We'll just wait for them to default and buy it for £2.50

And have change for a Freddo.

That's one Ireland. You want fries with that?

French ones? /Angevinist

[Fnordgasm 5]

They're just silly. I mean, I can understand hating those who are not British. After all, they have the nerve to enter this world via a foreign vagina and the look and sound slightly different; they speak heathen lingos and believe things that are different to what we believe. The whole concept is terrifying.

But still, how do they expect to get rid of the 2 million + foreigners? It's not exactly like evicting an unruly tennant who plays loud music through the night and lets his pitbull shit on next door's lawn. It's just foolishness.

[Vellosia]

But still, how do they expect to get rid of the 2 million + foreigners? It's not exactly like evicting an unruly tennant who plays loud music through the night and lets his pitbull shit on next door's lawn. It's just foolishness.

I have the suspicion they would move onto genocide pretty quickly once forced deportation and emigration were shown to be expensive or ineffective.

[Cthag-antil]

But still, how do they expect to get rid of the 2 million + foreigners? It's not exactly like evicting an unruly tennant who plays loud music through the night and lets his pitbull shit on next door's lawn. It's just foolishness.

I have the suspicion they would move onto genocide pretty quickly once forced deportation and emigration were shown to be expensive or ineffective.

Re patriation they call it.

Which would be ineffective and enormously expensive.

If the UK ever ended up with a BNP government I am 99% certain a civil war would erupt almost immediately after their election.

[Delanshar]

Then what government?

The Mayor of London is not a member of the House of Commons, he is not part of the UK government.

He is a figurehead for the City of London and has limited powers.

If a mayor isn't part of the government then how come the government has the power to fire them?

[-St George]

The Mayor of London is not a member of the House of Commons, he is not part of the UK government.

He is a figurehead for the City of London and has limited powers.

If a mayor isn't part of the government then how come the government has the power to fire them?

They don't.

[Delanshar]

If a mayor isn't part of the government then how come the government has the power to fire them?

They don't.

Umm, I'm pretty sure a given country's government can fire their mayors. After all, wasn't the mayor of Moscow fired just last year?

[Alyakia]

They don't.

Umm, I'm pretty sure a given country's government can fire their mayors. After all, wasn't the mayor of Moscow fired just last year?

Are Moscows Mayors elected?

[Delanshar]

Umm, I'm pretty sure a given country's government can fire their mayors. After all, wasn't the mayor of Moscow fired just last year?

Are Moscows Mayors elected?

No...but would it matter? A mayor is a mayor.

[-St George]

They don't.

Umm, I'm pretty sure a given country's government can fire their mayors. After all, wasn't the mayor of Moscow fired just last year?

Moscow =/= London.

[Alyakia]

Are Moscows Mayors elected?

No...but would it matter? A mayor is a mayor.

How can you fire an elected person without having them lose an election?

[Delanshar]

No...but would it matter? A mayor is a mayor.

How can you fire an elected person without having them lose an election?

impeachment?

[Vellosia]

How can you fire an elected person without having them lose an election?

impeachment?

Doesn't exist in the UK.

[-St George]

How can you fire an elected person without having them lose an election?

impeachment?

The UK doesn't have impeachment.

BoJo has been elected, unless he resigns, he can't go until the next election.

[Vellosia]

impeachment?

The UK doesn't have impeachment.

BoJo has been elected, unless he resigns, he can't go until the next election.

Or Parliament could simply abolish his office.

[Aeronos]

impeachment?

Doesn't exist in the UK.

We have an equivalent though, don't we? I mean, we can file a Motion of No Confidence, which can prematurely bring a parliament to an abrupt end. Though this would bring an election, and if they won again, yeah... but couldn't the Queen hypothetically effectively impeach a prime minister by rejecting every single bill sent up for Royal Assent?

[Vellosia]

Doesn't exist in the UK.

We have an equivalent though, don't we? I mean, we can file a Motion of No Confidence, which can prematurely bring a parliament to an abrupt end. Though this would bring an election, and if they won again, yeah... but couldn't the Queen hypothetically effectively impeach a prime minister by rejecting every single bill sent up for Royal Assent?

A Confidence Motion is different to impeachement - it doesn't involve the law and (as impeachment usually does) a legal trial or equivalent. Why would the Queen bother to veto everything if she can simply sack the government anyway?

[Charlotte Ryberg]

Even though I have concerns about European policy and Immigration, I do not condone racism in politics. Therefore the BNP never gets my vote.

[-St George]

Doesn't exist in the UK.

We have an equivalent though, don't we? I mean, we can file a Motion of No Confidence, which can prematurely bring a parliament to an abrupt end. Though this would bring an election, and if they won again, yeah... but couldn't the Queen hypothetically effectively impeach a prime minister by rejecting every single bill sent up for Royal Assent?

It would cause a huge constitutional crisis the likes of which not seen since the Glorious Revolution.

The monarchy would end.

[Vellosia]

The last Motion of No Confidence that passed was that presented by Margaret Thatcher against James Callaghan in 1979. It passed by a single vote, 311-310. Upon hearing the result, the Tory benches erupted into cheers while Labour sang The Red Flag, the anthem of socialism.

Of course, there were then 18 years of Conservative rule.

[Aeronos]

The last Motion of No Confidence that passed was that presented by Margaret Thatcher against James Callaghan in 1979. It passed by a single vote, 311-310. Upon hearing the result, the Tory benches erupted into cheers while Labour sang The Red Flag, the anthem of socialism.

Yeah, and Thatcher made her famous "Let's sweep away the socialism" speech shortly after IIRC

Strictly speaking, motions of no confidence have happened since in the Commonwealth, just not in the UK. There was a vote of no confidence in Canada last March as a result of Harper being found to be in contempt of parliament, however, in a strange turn of events, that election turned Harper's minority into a majority o.O

It would cause a huge constitutional crisis the likes of which not seen since the Glorious Revolution.

The monarchy would end.

True, but it could still, theoretically, happen! Whether it is even remotely likely is a different question

[Old Tyrannia]

Honestly? I can't put it any better than anyone else here already has; they're racist thugs who give patriotism a bad name.

[Vellosia]

The last Motion of No Confidence that passed was that presented by Margaret Thatcher against James Callaghan in 1979. It passed by a single vote, 311-310. Upon hearing the result, the Tory benches erupted into cheers while Labour sang The Red Flag, the anthem of socialism.

Yeah, and Thatcher made her famous "Let's sweep away the socialism" speech shortly after IIRC

Strictly speaking, motions of no confidence have happened since in the Commonwealth, just not in the UK. There was a vote of no confidence in Canada last March as a result of Harper being found to be in contempt of parliament, however, in a strange turn of events, that election turned Harper's minority into a majority o.O

I meant in the UK.