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Is singapore going to be overpopulated in the coming years?

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is it going 2 be overpopulated?

damn yeah
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11%
yeah
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meh, dunno
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Neh
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Definitly not, the pop will decrease
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11%
Asian girls ftw!
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Postby Chillout FM » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:42 am

Snot Sniper wrote:
Jal-Nish Hlar wrote:So immigration is really the only thing that's adding population.
Well, let's find the immigration figures and dot he math to see whether the population will rise or fall.

Yes, let's ...


Well with all those guys here with asian fetishes its gonna rise with +500 i think
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Postby West Vandengaarde » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:42 am

Chillout FM wrote:
Snot Sniper wrote:
SPG? Sexual Predator Girls? Singapore Police Gigolos? What?


A "Sarong Party Girl". Rampant in Singapore and other areas in Asia. Usually the finer specimens of the female population but plagued with an addiction for caucasian dick. Though these women are typically not prostitutes, they do lend themselves to "loving you long time" depending on size of wallet and promises of greener pastures.
Dude, last night some SPG gave me the drip

You pretty much epitomize the reasons why Dutch people scare me.
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Postby Chillout FM » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:43 am

West Vandengaarde wrote:
Chillout FM wrote:
A "Sarong Party Girl". Rampant in Singapore and other areas in Asia. Usually the finer specimens of the female population but plagued with an addiction for caucasian dick. Though these women are typically not prostitutes, they do lend themselves to "loving you long time" depending on size of wallet and promises of greener pastures.
Dude, last night some SPG gave me the drip

You pretty much epitomize the reasons why Dutch people scare me.


I copy pasted it from urban dictionary jah ;p
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Augarundus wrote:Asian girls ftw. Regardless of what happens in Singapore, we have a moral imperative to produce more hot Asian girls. Too bad they've become rare in China.

Augarundus: Explaining why Singapore should breed more.

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Postby West Vandengaarde » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:44 am

Chillout FM wrote:
West Vandengaarde wrote:You pretty much epitomize the reasons why Dutch people scare me.


I copy pasted it from urban dictionary jah ;p

But still.
Taking word from a female friend of mine Amsterdam is a frightening city. Nothing shall destroy my fear of the Dutch.
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Postby Chillout FM » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:45 am

West Vandengaarde wrote:
Chillout FM wrote:
I copy pasted it from urban dictionary jah ;p

But still.
Taking word from a female friend of mine Amsterdam is a frightening city. Nothing shall destroy my fear of the Dutch.


Yeah thats wy I wanna move to Singapore :P
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Augarundus wrote:Asian girls ftw. Regardless of what happens in Singapore, we have a moral imperative to produce more hot Asian girls. Too bad they've become rare in China.

Augarundus: Explaining why Singapore should breed more.

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Postby West Vandengaarde » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:46 am

Chillout FM wrote:
West Vandengaarde wrote:But still.
Taking word from a female friend of mine Amsterdam is a frightening city. Nothing shall destroy my fear of the Dutch.


Yeah thats wy I wanna move to Singapore :P

And that's why I'll stay where I am and continue plotting against Dutchmen.
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Postby Chillout FM » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:47 am

West Vandengaarde wrote:
Chillout FM wrote:
Yeah thats wy I wanna move to Singapore :P

And that's why I'll stay where I am and continue plotting against Dutchmen.


are you still going to plot against me when I am in singapore or are you Leaving me alone then?
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Augarundus wrote:Asian girls ftw. Regardless of what happens in Singapore, we have a moral imperative to produce more hot Asian girls. Too bad they've become rare in China.

Augarundus: Explaining why Singapore should breed more.

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Postby West Vandengaarde » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:47 am

Chillout FM wrote:
West Vandengaarde wrote:And that's why I'll stay where I am and continue plotting against Dutchmen.


are you still going to plot against me when I am in singapore or are you Leaving me alone then?

If you're Dutch, you're Dutch; your residency matters not.
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Postby Chillout FM » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:48 am

West Vandengaarde wrote:
Chillout FM wrote:
are you still going to plot against me when I am in singapore or are you Leaving me alone then?

If you're Dutch, you're Dutch; your residency matters not.

You scare me mate :unsure:
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Asian fetish and damn proud of it
Augarundus wrote:Asian girls ftw. Regardless of what happens in Singapore, we have a moral imperative to produce more hot Asian girls. Too bad they've become rare in China.

Augarundus: Explaining why Singapore should breed more.

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Postby West Vandengaarde » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:49 am

Chillout FM wrote:
West Vandengaarde wrote:If you're Dutch, you're Dutch; your residency matters not.

You scare me mate :unsure:

That's quite pleasing.
Belgium shall take your nation and then we'll see who leads Benelux.
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Postby Chillout FM » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:50 am

West Vandengaarde wrote:
Chillout FM wrote:You scare me mate :unsure:

That's quite pleasing.
Belgium shall take your nation and then we'll see who leads Benelux.

Yeah right.... :eyebrow: *backs off and buys ticket to singapore to GTFO*
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Asian fetish and damn proud of it
Augarundus wrote:Asian girls ftw. Regardless of what happens in Singapore, we have a moral imperative to produce more hot Asian girls. Too bad they've become rare in China.

Augarundus: Explaining why Singapore should breed more.

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Postby Risottia » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:52 am

It is already.
Verenigde Nederlandse Naties wrote:Heck, and what will they do?

Build higher towers. Dig underground. Sleep in smaller bunks.
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Postby Chillout FM » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:53 am

Risottia wrote:It is already.
Verenigde Nederlandse Naties wrote:Heck, and what will they do?

Build higher towers. Dig underground. Sleep in smaller bunks.


I dont hope that they will close borders D:
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Asian fetish and damn proud of it
Augarundus wrote:Asian girls ftw. Regardless of what happens in Singapore, we have a moral imperative to produce more hot Asian girls. Too bad they've become rare in China.

Augarundus: Explaining why Singapore should breed more.

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Postby Santhene » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:55 am

Risottia wrote:It is already.
Verenigde Nederlandse Naties wrote:Heck, and what will they do?

Build higher towers. Dig underground. Sleep in smaller bunks.

Pods. Asians sleep in pods now.
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Postby Rambhutan » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:49 am

Augarundus wrote:By the way, I still won the argument against Malthusian theories of overpopulation until someone makes a response...

Someone, just give me one serious response. I'll post my Malthus Kritik myself if I have to.


I would argue that the situation leading up to the massacres in Rwanda and nearby countries was pretty much a Malthusian situation, it would also seem to be an element in the Palestinian/Israeli conflict. You have yet to really put forward enough of an argument beyond the usual 'the free market fairy wil fix it all' to be claiming any kind of victory.
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Postby Chillout FM » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:56 am

Rambhutan wrote:
Augarundus wrote:By the way, I still won the argument against Malthusian theories of overpopulation until someone makes a response...

Someone, just give me one serious response. I'll post my Malthus Kritik myself if I have to.


I would argue that the situation leading up to the massacres in Rwanda and nearby countries was pretty much a Malthusian situation, it would also seem to be an element in the Palestinian/Israeli conflict. You have yet to really put forward enough of an argument beyond the usual 'the free market fairy wil fix it all' to be claiming any kind of victory.


Do you think a massacre can happen in Singapore b/c of the overpopulation?
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Asian fetish and damn proud of it
Augarundus wrote:Asian girls ftw. Regardless of what happens in Singapore, we have a moral imperative to produce more hot Asian girls. Too bad they've become rare in China.

Augarundus: Explaining why Singapore should breed more.

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Postby Globexanter » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:57 am

I'm sad, no Cake option?
But no, I don't think overpopulation will come into play. If it does, they'll just build taller buildings.

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Postby Rambhutan » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:01 am

Chillout FM wrote:
Do you think a massacre can happen in Singapore b/c of the overpopulation?


Much less likely than in Rwanda, more likely an infection like SARS or bird 'flu. I suppose given the quite authoritarian nature of Singapore some kind of civil war is always a remote possibility.
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Postby Chillout FM » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:04 am

Rambhutan wrote:
Chillout FM wrote:
Do you think a massacre can happen in Singapore b/c of the overpopulation?


Much less likely than in Rwanda, more likely an infection like SARS or bird 'flu. I suppose given the quite authoritarian nature of Singapore some kind of civil war is always a remote possibility.


Mmmh, do you think Europeans would be the target then?

EDIT: Singapore got a strong economy and can import food, unlike Rwanda
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My nation: Singapore, but then more like Jamaica.
Asian fetish and damn proud of it
Augarundus wrote:Asian girls ftw. Regardless of what happens in Singapore, we have a moral imperative to produce more hot Asian girls. Too bad they've become rare in China.

Augarundus: Explaining why Singapore should breed more.

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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:48 am

Verenigde Nederlandse Naties wrote:Heck, and what will they do?


Nope. Singapore has one of the lowest feritlity rates in the world. and a moderately low population growth rate (dismissing outliers like the World Bank's claim). They're bribing women to have babies in the first place.

Augarundus wrote:No, they won't become overpopulated. The market will always adjust for the perfect rate of population expansion/contraction (Malthus be damned). That is to say, large populations are necessary within an agricultural economy and are permitted to expand rapidly in an industrialized economy. However, as Singapore becomes technologically and economically developed to such a degree that birth control is widely available, large families are no longer economically productive, etc., the population will peak, growth will be reduced, and the natives may experience a population decline (see: Europe). While the rapid growth within industrialized economies may be uncomfortable, it is necessary for economic progression and is temporary. This historical trend is easily observable in nations already highly developed (see: Western Europe and the United States; Japan industrialized early as well, but I know little about Japan (?)), and it's positive. When population growth decreases, immigration will likely fulfill many of the roles in Singapore's economy abandoned by the native population (due to birth rate decline)... meaning the total increase to the standard of living of individuals in the area is positive.


Not only do you not know much about Japan, you seem to know little about Singapore as well. (Hint: Singapore is not some NIC where women have limited access to birth control and get married younge and pump out 15 kids.)

Cameroi wrote:has singapore ever NOT BEEN overpopulated, at any time in the 63 years i've been alive, or for something like at least a hundred years before that, if not a lot longer?

i must be missing something here. it's eluding me whatever it is.


Nope, not missing a thing, other than forgettiung this is a typical NSG thread full of ignorant folk who think knowing nothing about the topic qualifies them as experet comentators.
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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:55 am

Rambhutan wrote:I would argue that the situation leading up to the massacres in Rwanda and nearby countries was pretty much a Malthusian situation, it would also seem to be an element in the Palestinian/Israeli conflict.


The Rawanda genocide was caused as much or more by enviropnmental degredation than overpopulation.

Rambhutan wrote:
Chillout FM wrote:
Do you think a massacre can happen in Singapore b/c of the overpopulation?


Much less likely than in Rwanda, more likely an infection like SARS or bird 'flu. I suppose given the quite authoritarian nature of Singapore some kind of civil war is always a remote possibility.


Indeed, the possibility of overpopulation causing strife is pretty remote. It's more likely to be ethnic tensions tied to economic disparities, like much of the strife in SE Asia where the ethnic Chinese economically dominate more local populations. The PAP has kept a lid on it pretty well, but there's a lot that can go wrong with their program...
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Postby Augarundus » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:06 am

Rambhutan wrote:
Augarundus wrote:By the way, I still won the argument against Malthusian theories of overpopulation until someone makes a response...

Someone, just give me one serious response. I'll post my Malthus Kritik myself if I have to.


I would argue that the situation leading up to the massacres in Rwanda and nearby countries was pretty much a Malthusian situation, it would also seem to be an element in the Palestinian/Israeli conflict. You have yet to really put forward enough of an argument beyond the usual 'the free market fairy wil fix it all' to be claiming any kind of victory.


Read the kritik I posted. Underlining certain sections of the first section + bolded summaries = what you should read.
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Postby Augarundus » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:06 am

Chillout FM wrote:
greed and death wrote:The problem with #2 is the government of Singapore runs a campaign to encourage Chinese families to have more children(with tax breaks and the like.)


HEAVEN I WANNA MOVE TO THERE!
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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:17 am

Chillout FM wrote:Mmmh, do you think Europeans would be the target then?


Ethnic Chinese will be the target, as per usual.
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Postby Rambhutan » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:32 am

Daistallia 2104 wrote:The Rawanda genocide was caused as much or more by enviropnmental degredation than overpopulation.


It is possible to argue that the environmental degradation is to some extent down to population pressure creating a demand for food production and fuel leading to deforestation and erosion.
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