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Re: 9/11 a inside job? Seriously?

Postby Farnhamia » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:01 pm

Saint Clair Island wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Maybe that's all it was and the Towers are really still there, except everyone in the world bought into the faked footage shown by the government-controlled media (they are, you know, controlled by everyone except the companies that own them) that we all still think they're gone. The company that owns the World Trade Center keeps calling the news stations, trying to explain, but when they do they're dismissed and told it is a terrible, cruel thing to mock the people who lost loved ones. Then the company tries to explain that those people aren't dead, they're all still at the WTC, living on hot dogs and brats and stuff from push cart vendors, their friends don't see them, their families think they're dead, and that's when the news people hang up.

That's easily as plausible as saying that the attacks were staged by government agents who have kept their silence meticulously for almost eight full years. I laugh, Unterzagersdorf. And by the way, you're the one making the extraordinary claim, the burden of proof is on you. Your evidence must be better than that presented to debunk it and you need to have it accepted by credible sources, as, for instance, the NY Times, the Washington Post, Fox News, MSNBC, you know, those sorts of people.

No, it was a very realistic NORAD exercise. The towers are gone all right.

See, the air defense people kept fucking up the simulations during the exercise: failing to intercept the planes at the right time, or blowing them up with Sidewinders and killing all of the passengers within, or something. The general who was running the exercises finally went on down to the simulation rooms to complain: why were the results so bad? We have the best military in the world, dammit. And the colonel who was keeping an eye on the pilots said, it's not our fault, the men know it's a simulation, if there were a real event it'd be a lot easier for them to prevent it because it'd be a real threat. So the general said, all right, I'll send a few spec-ops to hijack some planes and fly them into buildings in new york and washington on tuesday, we'll see how well the boys hold up in a real emergency....

Needless to say, heads rolled at NORAD afterwards. It was officially blamed on terrorists, of course, because it just wouldn't look right for people to learn that the agency trusted with defending America's airspace had messed up.

Hmm ... yes, yes I see what you're saying. And I live in Colorado, there were reports of strange convoys going in and out of Cheyenne Mountain right after 9/11. I'm told by several people I met on-line that there were houses in Colorado Springs suddenly for sale. "Transferred somewhere," was all the explanation anyone could ever get.
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Postby North Suran » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:01 pm

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Comaack wrote:A week before Lincoln was shot he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot he was in Marilyn Monroe

Fixed the last bit for you.

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Postby Yootopia » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:03 pm

Happi-Land III wrote:If 9/11 really was a CIA job, they would have done a way better job. Also, if you believe in 9/11 conspiracies, you may as well believe in Kuiper Belt aliens, secret missions to Pluto, demonic sacrifices by world leaders, lizard-people ruling the earth and flying pigs. Thank you, goodnight and take your medication.

Can't say I really agree with you on this.
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Postby Saint Clair Island » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:04 pm

North Suran wrote:
Saint Clair Island wrote:
Comaack wrote:A week before Lincoln was shot he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot he was in Marilyn Monroe

Fixed the last bit for you.

You were always a man of class.

Well, without my fix the last two sentences don't make as much sense. Otherwise I'd just save that shit for Galloism or someone.
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Postby Saint Clair Island » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:05 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Saint Clair Island wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Maybe that's all it was and the Towers are really still there, except everyone in the world bought into the faked footage shown by the government-controlled media (they are, you know, controlled by everyone except the companies that own them) that we all still think they're gone. The company that owns the World Trade Center keeps calling the news stations, trying to explain, but when they do they're dismissed and told it is a terrible, cruel thing to mock the people who lost loved ones. Then the company tries to explain that those people aren't dead, they're all still at the WTC, living on hot dogs and brats and stuff from push cart vendors, their friends don't see them, their families think they're dead, and that's when the news people hang up.

That's easily as plausible as saying that the attacks were staged by government agents who have kept their silence meticulously for almost eight full years. I laugh, Unterzagersdorf. And by the way, you're the one making the extraordinary claim, the burden of proof is on you. Your evidence must be better than that presented to debunk it and you need to have it accepted by credible sources, as, for instance, the NY Times, the Washington Post, Fox News, MSNBC, you know, those sorts of people.

No, it was a very realistic NORAD exercise. The towers are gone all right.

See, the air defense people kept fucking up the simulations during the exercise: failing to intercept the planes at the right time, or blowing them up with Sidewinders and killing all of the passengers within, or something. The general who was running the exercises finally went on down to the simulation rooms to complain: why were the results so bad? We have the best military in the world, dammit. And the colonel who was keeping an eye on the pilots said, it's not our fault, the men know it's a simulation, if there were a real event it'd be a lot easier for them to prevent it because it'd be a real threat. So the general said, all right, I'll send a few spec-ops to hijack some planes and fly them into buildings in new york and washington on tuesday, we'll see how well the boys hold up in a real emergency....

Needless to say, heads rolled at NORAD afterwards. It was officially blamed on terrorists, of course, because it just wouldn't look right for people to learn that the agency trusted with defending America's airspace had messed up.

Hmm ... yes, yes I see what you're saying. And I live in Colorado, there were reports of strange convoys going in and out of Cheyenne Mountain right after 9/11. I'm told by several people I met on-line that there were houses in Colorado Springs suddenly for sale. "Transferred somewhere," was all the explanation anyone could ever get.

You live in Colorado? Oh man! Tell me everything you know about the night of July 27, 1983. Assuming you were awake, of course. I'm developing a theory....
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Postby Yootopia » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:05 pm

Unterzagersdorf wrote:It's not the first time false flag operations have been done. The Lusitania was deliberately sent into German U-boat infested waters after Nazi Germany put an article in the New York Times warning that any vessel in the waters around Britain was in-danger if being sunk.

That wasn't Nazi Germany you cretin -_-
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Postby Saint Clair Island » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:06 pm

Yootopia wrote:
Unterzagersdorf wrote:It's not the first time false flag operations have been done. The Lusitania was deliberately sent into German U-boat infested waters after Nazi Germany put an article in the New York Times warning that any vessel in the waters around Britain was in-danger if being sunk.

That wasn't Nazi Germany you cretin -_-

Don't be silly. All Germans are Nazis. SIEG HEIL, DEUTSCHLAND UBER ALLES! o/
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Postby Unterzagersdorf » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:06 pm

Farnhamia wrote:Hmm ... yes, yes I see what you're saying. And I live in Colorado, there were reports of strange convoys going in and out of Cheyenne Mountain right after 9/11. I'm told by several people I met on-line that there were houses in Colorado Springs suddenly for sale. "Transferred somewhere," was all the explanation anyone could ever get.


Cheyenne Mountain... isn't that where the stargate is ;) Just kidding, by the way.
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:06 pm

Yootopia wrote:
Unterzagersdorf wrote:It's not the first time false flag operations have been done. The Lusitania was deliberately sent into German U-boat infested waters after Nazi Germany put an article in the New York Times warning that any vessel in the waters around Britain was in-danger if being sunk.

That wasn't Nazi Germany you cretin -_-

:lol: Hitler caused both world wars don't you know?

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Postby North Suran » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:07 pm

Saint Clair Island wrote:
Yootopia wrote:That wasn't Nazi Germany you cretin -_-

Don't be silly. All Germans are Nazis. SIEG HEIL, DEUTSCHLAND UBER ALLES! o/

Nazi uniforms are hot.

THERE, I SAID IT.
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Postby Yootopia » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:09 pm

Unterzagersdorf wrote:
Yootopia wrote:
Unterzagersdorf wrote:It's not the first time false flag operations have been done. The Lusitania was deliberately sent into German U-boat infested waters after Nazi Germany put an article in the New York Times warning that any vessel in the waters around Britain was in-danger if being sunk.

That wasn't Nazi Germany you cretin -_-

My bad, I was typing really fast and that was a complete accident.

Aye well just try not to overdo it. I personally reckon that the September 11th attacks were extremely dodgy in nature, but if you start throwing references around in a blasé fashion to Nazi Germany it makes the whole 'look at the evidence' argument a shitload weaker.
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Postby Trippoli » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:09 pm

North Suran wrote:
Saint Clair Island wrote:
Yootopia wrote:That wasn't Nazi Germany you cretin -_-

Don't be silly. All Germans are Nazis. SIEG HEIL, DEUTSCHLAND UBER ALLES! o/

Nazi uniforms are hot.

THERE, I SAID IT.


Yeah, you could put your boyfriend in that uniform and let him Heil your dick :) jk jk
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Postby North Suran » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:10 pm

Trippoli wrote:
North Suran wrote:
Saint Clair Island wrote:Don't be silly. All Germans are Nazis. SIEG HEIL, DEUTSCHLAND UBER ALLES! o/

Nazi uniforms are hot.

THERE, I SAID IT.


Yeah, you could put your boyfriend in that uniform and let him Heil your dick :) jk jk

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Postby Moreau Catholic High » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:10 pm

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Then if you have such "evidence", why not go to the Dept Of Justice?

On a nther side of this, to pull some stunt like this off would require a lot of people. Even assuming the George Bush, who was an incompetent twit, could put this all together there is one (well, many) flaw).

Anyone taking part in something like this would be executed if it got out. Assuming they were not just dragged from their homes and set on fire while alive. Considering how much other things are leaked, the odds of being able to keep this secret would be astronomically low.

You are accusing the US Government of High Treason. That is not something to be done lightly.


It's not the first time false flag operations have been done. The Lusitania was deliberately sent into German U-boat infested waters after Nazi Germany put an article in the New York Times warning that any vessel in the waters around Britain was in-danger if being sunk. Our government ignored the warning, knowing that after it was sunk the American people would want to enter the war, and that's exactly what happened.

In need of an excuse to seize total control of Germany, The Nazis coordinated the false flag burning of their our building. Followed by a staged attack against a radio station, Hitler won the people's support for a German invasion into Poland.

Fast forward to a CIA coup in Iran when they overthrew Mohammed Mosadeq. From machine gunning crowds to bombing houses with no regard for innocent civilians as they stage terror attacks. A well-documented fact that governments use false flags to further hidden agendas.

Does the Gulf of Tonkin ring a bell? The reason we fought a war in Viet Nam. They never fired at us, and they pleaded and swore that they didn't. It was a staged event. Little damage resulted from this staged provocation except the deaths of 58,000 Americans and more than a million Viet Namese. A war only good and profitable for political elites, just like every other war it seems.

Because afterall, why rush to solve a conflict when prolonging it maximizes profit and expands the amount of liberties people are willing to relinquish in exchange for security. A tactic as old as empire, governments have used fear to control their populations.

A seemingly endless history of U.S. sponsored terror and yet I'm call a "conspiracy theorist" for asking questions and having no trust in our government.

I have no trust in any government.


And yet, despite all these incidents, you trust your government to provide your roads, water, electricity, the education of millions of children, the delivery of your mail, and other municipal services I can't name.

But more to the point, these particular events do not have any relationship to the events of 9/11. You claim the government is untrustworthy, and you have provided reasons why. Fine. But that does not in any way demonstrate that 9/11 was an inside job. People with Munchausen syndrome still get sick for real.

You have yet to provide any evidence that the events of September 11th, 2001 were directly caused by the government. You have only provided curious coincidences.

In other words, back up your argument directly, or GTFO.
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Postby Saint Clair Island » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:12 pm

North Suran wrote:
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Yootopia wrote:That wasn't Nazi Germany you cretin -_-

Don't be silly. All Germans are Nazis. SIEG HEIL, DEUTSCHLAND UBER ALLES! o/

Nazi uniforms are hot.

THERE, I SAID IT.

I've never seen the appeal, personally. Can someone explain why people tend to think nazi uniforms are hot?
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Postby Soratsin » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:13 pm

A seemingly endless history of U.S. sponsored terror and yet I'm call a "conspiracy theorist" for asking questions and having no trust in our government.

I have no trust in any government.


But the 9/11 conspiracy theories aren't about questioning the government's findings on the attacks, they're about accusing the government of mass murder and a coverup. You aren't doubting or questioning anything, you're claiming something based on no real hard evidence.


For example, I have no trust in the retail industry, but you don't see me claiming that best buy implanted crazy purple knockout gas into my laptop's cooling fan compartment so they could break into my house and tattoo a picture of Amy Winehouse on my ass.
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Postby North Suran » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:14 pm

Saint Clair Island wrote:
North Suran wrote:Nazi uniforms are hot.

THERE, I SAID IT.

I've never seen the appeal, personally. Can someone explain why people tend to think nazi uniforms are hot?

Three main things, really:

1) They are aesthetically good items of clothing.

2) They most involve black leather.

3) They are taboo.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:14 pm

Comaack wrote:-snip-


Wait..you listed 25 similarities, so:

25 x 7 (the number of letters in each President's first name) = 175, and 175/(25 - 7) = [10.9375 + (175 - 25 + 7)] - 25 = 142.9375

Which means the answer?

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Postby EternalNight » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:14 pm

Yootopia wrote:
Unterzagersdorf wrote:It's not the first time false flag operations have been done. The Lusitania was deliberately sent into German U-boat infested waters after Nazi Germany put an article in the New York Times warning that any vessel in the waters around Britain was in-danger if being sunk.

That wasn't Nazi Germany you cretin -_-


Indeed. There's also the matter that the double-hull of the Lusitania was packed with 75mm artillery shells. The Kaiserlichemarine was right all along. It was carrying contraband weapons, and was therefore a legitimate target.
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Postby North Suran » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:15 pm

Rhodmhire wrote:Wait..you listed 25 similarities, so:

25 x 7 (the number of letters in each President's first name) = 175, and 175/(25 - 7) = [10.9375 + (175 - 25 + 7)] - 25 = 142.9375

Which means the answer?

Anal sex.

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Postby Yootopia » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:16 pm

Unterzagersdorf wrote:
Yootopia wrote:Aye well just try not to overdo it. I personally reckon that the September 11th attacks were extremely dodgy in nature, but if you start throwing references around in a blasé fashion to Nazi Germany it makes the whole 'look at the evidence' argument a shitload weaker.


Why's that? Research Operation Paperclip. The CIA had intricate ties to the Nazis.

Oh ffs.

Aye, "the CIA snatched up some scientists before the Russians could get to them" = "we can spuriously link 9/11 to Nazi Germany when a) the sinking of the Lusitania was in a different context and b) it wasn't Nazi Germany"
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Postby Rhodmhire » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:16 pm

North Suran wrote:
Rhodmhire wrote:Wait..you listed 25 similarities, so:

25 x 7 (the number of letters in each President's first name) = 175, and 175/(25 - 7) = [10.9375 + (175 - 25 + 7)] - 25 = 142.9375

Which means the answer?

Anal sex.

I don't know if I'm getting better or worse at this conspiracy theory thing, I'm going with better.

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