9/11 a inside job? Seriously?

[Saint Clair Island]

Now THAT is coincidence. What happened on 9/11 and the days before hand was executed on purpose. There were also NORAD drills going on the during the morning of 9/11 that had to do with hijacked aircraft and the insertion of false radar blips. This is why the aircraft were not intercepted. The NORAD pilots couldn't sort out the false incidents from the real ones. NORAD had never failed. On 9/11, they failed three times in one hour. They were deliberately confused.

One of the reasons the planes were not intercepted is that some of the bases with tactical fighter wings were closed and the squadrons that did scramble had to fly longer distances.

There is also the fact that though hijacking had happened before, turning planes into ASM's had not.

NORAD ran exercises in the days prior to 9/11 that dealt with turing hijacked planes into missiles.

Really? Well, maybe 9/11 was just a very realistic NORAD exercise.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

This feels like arguing with a religious person.

[Unterzagersdorf]

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[Rhodmhire]

This feels like arguing with a religious person.

Unless it's Chuck Norris.

Because, you know, you don't argue with him in the first place.

[Moreau Catholic High]

We're calling for your evidence. Your claim is that 9/11 is an inside job.

Where is your evidence to back that claim up? You have produced none.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

If you call this evidence, then shame on you.

I NEVER stated a position. I've only been showing how your "evidence" doesn't count as evidence.

[Kantria]

Incorrect. This is how debate works. UT has provided his argument, and he has provided his evidence. His claim has been made.

Now it's your turn.

You claim it's an inside job. The burden of proof is on you.

If you call this evidence, then shame on you.

Can't you just humor him? I mean, you've got to have some evidence that it was an inside job and not the doing of invisible magic snow pixies.

[Samatolian City-States]

The fact that the guy who came up with the theory hasn't been in any suspicious car accidents is enough to make me call bullshit.

[Unterzagersdorf]

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[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

My evidence, based on observation, research, and thought, instead of reading some report put out by the government, is not considered "evidence" at all. Now that's fucked up.

OK, what is your evidence? So far all I've heard is coincidence. That's not exactly convincing. People use coincidences to defend the existence of god, too.

[North Suran]

My evidence, based on watching Loose Change a couple of times and throwing darts at a poster of George Bush instead of reading some factual, well-informed report, is not considered "evidence" at all. Now that's fucked up.

Fixed.

[Farnhamia]

One of the reasons the planes were not intercepted is that some of the bases with tactical fighter wings were closed and the squadrons that did scramble had to fly longer distances.

There is also the fact that though hijacking had happened before, turning planes into ASM's had not.

NORAD ran exercises in the days prior to 9/11 that dealt with turing hijacked planes into missiles.

Really? Well, maybe 9/11 was just a very realistic NORAD exercise.

Maybe that's all it was and the Towers are really still there, except everyone in the world bought into the faked footage shown by the government-controlled media (they are, you know, controlled by everyone except the companies that own them) that we all still think they're gone. The company that owns the World Trade Center keeps calling the news stations, trying to explain, but when they do they're dismissed and told it is a terrible, cruel thing to mock the people who lost loved ones. Then the company tries to explain that those people aren't dead, they're all still at the WTC, living on hot dogs and brats and stuff from push cart vendors, their friends don't see them, their families think they're dead, and that's when the news people hang up.

That's easily as plausible as saying that the attacks were staged by government agents who have kept their silence meticulously for almost eight full years. I laugh, Unterzagersdorf. And by the way, you're the one making the extraordinary claim, the burden of proof is on you. Your evidence must be better than that presented to debunk it and you need to have it accepted by credible sources, as, for instance, the NY Times, the Washington Post, Fox News, MSNBC, you know, those sorts of people.

[Moreau Catholic High]

If you call this evidence, then shame on you.

I NEVER stated a position. I've only been showing how your "evidence" doesn't count as evidence.

My evidence, based on observation, research, and thought, instead of reading some report put out by the government, is not considered "evidence" at all. Now that's fucked up.

Alright, cough up your observations and research and let's examine them and see if they hold water.

[Saint Clair Island]

My evidence, based on watching Loose Change a couple of times and throwing darts at a poster of George Bush instead of reading some factual, well-informed report, is not considered "evidence" at all. Now that's fucked up.

Fixed.

I have evidence for my theory about aliens shooting JFK as well... just google "aliens shot jfk" and you'll find it!

[EternalNight]

If you call this evidence, then shame on you.

I NEVER stated a position. I've only been showing how your "evidence" doesn't count as evidence.

My evidence, based on observation, research, and thought, instead of reading some report put out by the government, is not considered "evidence" at all. Now that's fucked up.

Then if you have such "evidence", why not go to the Dept Of Justice?

On a nther side of this, to pull some stunt like this off would require a lot of people. Even assuming the George Bush, who was an incompetent twit, could put this all together there is one (well, many) flaw).

Anyone taking part in something like this would be executed if it got out. Assuming they were not just dragged from their homes and set on fire while alive. Considering how much other things are leaked, the odds of being able to keep this secret would be astronomically low.

You are accusing the US Government of High Treason. That is not something to be done lightly.

[Unterzagersdorf]

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[Kantria]

You are accusing the US Government of High Treason. That is not something to be done lightly.

I don't disagree with you, but, well...


lol

[Happi-Land III]

I think the- em, the 7 WTC collapsed due to explosives though.

No, they collapsed because of the tons of debris that rained upon it and led to a catastrophic structural failure. And the "puffs of smoke" coming from the World Trade Centers were cause of the explosive force of air from the impact rushing through floors and blowing out window and office shit.[/quote]

Didn't the Borders Bookstore motherlode get flattened with that?

If 9/11 really was a CIA job, they would have done a way better job. Also, if you believe in 9/11 conspiracies, you may as well believe in Kuiper Belt aliens, secret missions to Pluto, demonic sacrifices by world leaders, lizard-people ruling the earth and flying pigs. Thank you, goodnight and take your medication.

[North Suran]

I have evidence for my theory about aliens shooting JFK as well... just google "aliens shot jfk" and you'll find it!

This was the first thing that came up when I Googled that.

[Space Libertines]

My evidence, based on watching Loose Change a couple of times and throwing darts at a poster of George Bush instead of reading some factual, well-informed report, is not considered "evidence" at all. Now that's fucked up.

Fixed.

lmao
Ok, I think there is a chance that 9-11 might have been an inside job (keyword: might), but that editing right there is hilarious!

[North Suran]

A report that said it could not explain where the money to finance 9/11 came from, so it stated that the funding for 9/11 was of "little practical significance." Yeah, some well-informed report.

Well, since your entire argument seems to consist of "The Government planned 9/11; the facts are neither here nor there!", you're hardly one to criticise the document for not being well-informed.

[Saint Clair Island]

Maybe that's all it was and the Towers are really still there, except everyone in the world bought into the faked footage shown by the government-controlled media (they are, you know, controlled by everyone except the companies that own them) that we all still think they're gone. The company that owns the World Trade Center keeps calling the news stations, trying to explain, but when they do they're dismissed and told it is a terrible, cruel thing to mock the people who lost loved ones. Then the company tries to explain that those people aren't dead, they're all still at the WTC, living on hot dogs and brats and stuff from push cart vendors, their friends don't see them, their families think they're dead, and that's when the news people hang up.

That's easily as plausible as saying that the attacks were staged by government agents who have kept their silence meticulously for almost eight full years. I laugh, Unterzagersdorf. And by the way, you're the one making the extraordinary claim, the burden of proof is on you. Your evidence must be better than that presented to debunk it and you need to have it accepted by credible sources, as, for instance, the NY Times, the Washington Post, Fox News, MSNBC, you know, those sorts of people.

No, it was a very realistic NORAD exercise. The towers are gone all right.

See, the air defense people kept fucking up the simulations during the exercise: failing to intercept the planes at the right time, or blowing them up with Sidewinders and killing all of the passengers within, or something. The general who was running the exercises finally went on down to the simulation rooms to complain: why were the results so bad? We have the best military in the world, dammit. And the colonel who was keeping an eye on the pilots said, it's not our fault, the men know it's a simulation, if there were a real event it'd be a lot easier for them to prevent it because it'd be a real threat. So the general said, all right, I'll send a few spec-ops to hijack some planes and fly them into buildings in new york and washington on tuesday, we'll see how well the boys hold up in a real emergency....

Needless to say, heads rolled at NORAD afterwards. It was officially blamed on terrorists, of course, because it just wouldn't look right for people to learn that the agency trusted with defending America's airspace had messed up.

[Saint Clair Island]

I have evidence for my theory about aliens shooting JFK as well... just google "aliens shot jfk" and you'll find it!

This was the first thing that came up when I Googled that.

See? PROOF! Refute plz

[Saint Clair Island]

A week before Lincoln was shot he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot he was in Marilyn Monroe

Fixed the last bit for you.

[North Suran]

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This clearly proves that the 1980s was just an elaborate hoax to get us to wear sparkly outfits and sing really shitty bubblegum pop.