9/11 a inside job? Seriously?

[North Suran]

Not only humans, but humans that the American people elected to public office.

Oh, don't be coy.

We all know that the President of America is chosen beforehand by the Supreme Council of the New World Order.

[Saint Clair Island]

Not only humans, but humans that the American people elected to public office.

Oh, don't be coy.

We all know that the President of America is chosen beforehand by the Supreme Council of the New World Order.

I thought it was Skull and Bones in cooperation with The Family.

Besides, nobody makes conspiracy theories about Congressmen, who passed many of those laws; mainly because conspiracy theories about people who aren't the President aren't as interesting.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

Conspiracy theories are a result of the human tendency to look for patterns and meaning even when no patterns or meaning actually exist. It is very troubling to think that random acts of disruptive violence can occur, so the conspiracy theorist invents a world where all tragedies have an explanation. While the conspiracy theorist often accuses the skeptic of being the one who is afraid of reality, the truth is the other way around.

[Rhodmhire]

Sorry, Kennedy and Monroe reminded me of that plot in the Superman: Red Sun comic book thing.

Poor show, Superman.

If you're going to turn evil, at least defect to the Nazis.

I'd love to see how a Nazi-Germany Superman storyline would take place.

Or that storyline for any superhero for that matter.

[Unterzagersdorf]

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[North Suran]

I'd love to see how a Nazi-Germany Superman storyline would take place.

Or that storyline for any superhero for that matter.

Superman especially has it coming, though.

Look at his arm, for the love of Cthulhu!

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

Now THAT is coincidence. What happened on 9/11 and the days before hand was executed on purpose. There were also NORAD drills going on the during the morning of 9/11 that had to do with hijacked aircraft and the insertion of false radar blips. This is why the aircraft were not intercepted. The NORAD pilots couldn't sort out the false incidents from the real ones. NORAD had never failed. On 9/11, they failed three times in one hour. They were deliberately confused.

Seth McFarlane of family guy missed his flight by 3 minutes on 9/11. Had he gotten on the flight, he would have crashed into the buildings and died. Clearly he was late because he was in on the government conspiracy! Or, in reality, he was just late on 9/11. Most flights have people that miss them, so attaching any additional significance to those particular flights is folly. Humans suck at naturally gauging probability.

[North Suran]

3000 people mean nothing to the people who run things. How many hundreds of thousands have been killed in Iraq alone since 911?

I know this is an insane concept to consider, but politicians are actually humans as well.

I know, I was as surprised as you are.

And this means what? Humans are capable of terrible things. Especially if there is something to be gained.

Indeed, humans are capable of terrible things - especially if there is something to be gained.

And in this case, its people who are claiming that a national catastrophe was an inside job just so they can further their own political agenda.

[Saint Clair Island]

Now THAT is coincidence. What happened on 9/11 and the days before hand was executed on purpose. There were also NORAD drills going on the during the morning of 9/11 that had to do with hijacked aircraft and the insertion of false radar blips. This is why the aircraft were not intercepted. The NORAD pilots couldn't sort out the false incidents from the real ones. NORAD had never failed. On 9/11, they failed three times in one hour. They were deliberately confused.

Allow me to familiarize you with Hanlon's razor.

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[North Suran]

Seth McFarlane of family guy missed his flight by 3 minutes on 9/11. Had he gotten on the flight, he would have crashed into the buildings and died. Clearly he was late because he was in on the government conspiracy! Or, in reality, he was just late on 9/11. Most flights have people that miss them, so attaching any additional significance to those particular flights is folly. Humans suck at naturally gauging probability.

Don't forget the fact that at 7 AM on the morning of the attack, every Jew who worked in the World Trade Centre received a phone call from Ariel Sharon, telling them not to show up to work that day.

[North Suran]

Allow me to familiarize you with Hanlon's razor.

That is an awesome phrase.

I may have to steal it.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

You are a guy who relies on evidence right? Well, what evidence do you have that glorifies the government's position? Their word. That's it.

You claim it's an inside job. The burden of proof is on you. And no, circumstantial evidence and coincidence is not proof. If you understood basic probability theory, you would know why that is the case.

[EternalNight]

Now THAT is coincidence. What happened on 9/11 and the days before hand was executed on purpose. There were also NORAD drills going on the during the morning of 9/11 that had to do with hijacked aircraft and the insertion of false radar blips. This is why the aircraft were not intercepted. The NORAD pilots couldn't sort out the false incidents from the real ones. NORAD had never failed. On 9/11, they failed three times in one hour. They were deliberately confused.

One of the reasons the planes were not intercepted is that some of the bases with tactical fighter wings were closed and the squadrons that did scramble had to fly longer distances.

There is also the fact that though hijacking had happened before, turning planes into ASM's had not.

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[Rhodmhire]

Fools, it was a bunch of Swedish Jews who immigrated from Antarctica who did this.

*hypnotizes*

Conspiracies are fun, if you know how to do it right.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

Hanlon's razor doesn't change the fact that NORAD was dealing with the EXACT same exercise at the EXACT same time. Call it coincidence, call it whatever you like. That is one massive coincidence.

Massive coincidences happen all the time and mean nothing. The only reason you think some of them do is because the human brain has a tendency to ascribe greater significance to certain types of coincidence than they really deserve. Plenty of improbable things happen all the time that you couldn't give two shits about.

[Unterzagersdorf]

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[Saint Clair Island]

Now THAT is coincidence. What happened on 9/11 and the days before hand was executed on purpose. There were also NORAD drills going on the during the morning of 9/11 that had to do with hijacked aircraft and the insertion of false radar blips. This is why the aircraft were not intercepted. The NORAD pilots couldn't sort out the false incidents from the real ones. NORAD had never failed. On 9/11, they failed three times in one hour. They were deliberately confused.

Allow me to familiarize you with Hanlon's razor.

Hanlon's razor doesn't change the fact that NORAD was dealing with the EXACT same exercise at the EXACT same time. Call it coincidence, call it whatever you like. That is one massive coincidence.

You know, several million spermatozoa are released during sex, and yet only one of them can fertilize the egg (if it's even there to be fertilized). If a different sperm had fertilized a particular egg, a completely different person from you might be living in your parents' house and probably not arguing that 9/11 was a conspiracy on websites on the internet (to our eternal relief). The odds are something like one in billions that you'd be born, grow to adulthood, find this site and start posting on it. Isn't that an amazing coincidence?

Clearly, it's not coincidence at all, but instead a nefarious plan by the moon martians to steal Earth's cake. We must protect our precious cake from your dastardly plots, Unterzagersdorf!

[Moreau Catholic High]

You are a guy who relies on evidence right? Well, what evidence do you have that glorifies the government's position? Their word. That's it.

You claim it's an inside job. The burden of proof is on you. And no, circumstantial evidence and coincidence is not proof. If you understood basic probability theory, you would know why that is the case.

Nice spot-light switcher. Proof is required for any argument. The government has offered no proof, which is the story you align with. I believe there is more proof resulting from the research into the alternative that it is almost undeniable that the atrocity was committed to fulfill a government agenda.

Incorrect. This is how debate works. UT has provided his argument, and he has provided his evidence. His claim has been made.

Now it's your turn.

[Saint Clair Island]

Allow me to familiarize you with Hanlon's razor.

That is an awesome phrase.

I may have to steal it.

Since this is NSG, you'll also want Muphry's [sic] law.

[Unterzagersdorf]

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[North Suran]

Nice spot-light switcher. Proof is required for any argument. The government has offered no proof, which is the story you align with. I believe there is more proof resulting from the research into the alternative that it is almost undeniable that the atrocity was committed to fulfill a government agenda.

"I believe that the Queen is actually a member of a secret order of assassins who devote their life to killing people who have been named by the Loom of Fate.

If you cannot prove that it is not true, then I must be right."

[Moreau Catholic High]

Now THAT is coincidence. What happened on 9/11 and the days before hand was executed on purpose. There were also NORAD drills going on the during the morning of 9/11 that had to do with hijacked aircraft and the insertion of false radar blips. This is why the aircraft were not intercepted. The NORAD pilots couldn't sort out the false incidents from the real ones. NORAD had never failed. On 9/11, they failed three times in one hour. They were deliberately confused.

One of the reasons the planes were not intercepted is that some of the bases with tactical fighter wings were closed and the squadrons that did scramble had to fly longer distances.

There is also the fact that though hijacking had happened before, turning planes into ASM's had not.

NORAD ran exercises in the days prior to 9/11 that dealt with turing hijacked planes into missiles.

And thousands of other people just happened to take other flights that day. Clearly, they were only doing it so that 9/11 would seem to be a random terrorist attack.