Logical Homophobia

[Aeronos]

It is in my own best interest to maximize my chance of survival and minimize my competitor's chance of survival. Therefore, if I identify a difference between myself and a competitor, I can vilify it. With time, luck, and skill, society at large will come to view this difference as a negative, creating a situation where society benefits me at the expense of at least one competitor. Then repeat, for a different difference. Eventually I will be on top, and everyone else will be on the bottom. Since I'm heterosexual, homosexuality is one difference that I can attack, and one that is common enough to give me a leg up over a great many people.

Then surely I'm superior to heterosexuals because, as a bisexual, I'd be less fussy over the gender identity of my mate, and thus be more likely to reproduce?

[Agadar]

That only happens when I know it's play... like during a roleplay scenario or something.

Nope, happens when it's real too.
Like that time I was raped.

Oh come on, you still haven't forgiven me about that? I've already apologized like five times. Forgive and forget, man. Forgive and forget. Besides, we all know you enjoyed it as much as I did.

[Samuraikoku]

On topic now, I don't believe phobias (fear/hatred in this one case), by definition, have any logic, as "phobia" is defined as "an irrational fear".

[Secular Sweden]

I have a kind of heterofobia; I am afraid idiots will overpopulate the world.

6,903,155,669 and counting...

[Snot Sniper]

It is in my own best interest to maximize my chance of survival and minimize my competitor's chance of survival. Therefore, if I identify a difference between myself and a competitor, I can vilify it. With time, luck, and skill, society at large will come to view this difference as a negative, creating a situation where society benefits me at the expense of at least one competitor. Then repeat, for a different difference. Eventually I will be on top, and everyone else will be on the bottom. Since I'm heterosexual, homosexuality is one difference that I can attack, and one that is common enough to give me a leg up over a great many people.

Good try at Devil's Advocate.

So you'll vilify differences.

If their skin is a different color from yours for instance, you'd vilify that. How well does that work if you're in a community where everyone has their skin color and you're the odd one out? Really badly I think.

How does that work if you're in a community where everyone is straight, and you vilify one of (or all of) the straights? Quite badly I think.

Doesn't it only ever work when you pick on a minority? And even then it fails if {minority + sympathizers} outnumber {you + sympathizers}. Otherwise it fails.

[Xsyne]

It is in my own best interest to maximize my chance of survival and minimize my competitor's chance of survival. Therefore, if I identify a difference between myself and a competitor, I can vilify it. With time, luck, and skill, society at large will come to view this difference as a negative, creating a situation where society benefits me at the expense of at least one competitor. Then repeat, for a different difference. Eventually I will be on top, and everyone else will be on the bottom. Since I'm heterosexual, homosexuality is one difference that I can attack, and one that is common enough to give me a leg up over a great many people.

Then surely I'm superior to heterosexuals because, as a bisexual, I'd be less fussy over the gender identity of my mate, and thus be more likely to reproduce?

You could try that, but it's best to avoid having any of the groups deemed inferior constitute a majority of the population. That way, things can only change if multiple groups ally, and humans being rather tribal, this is not all that likely.

[Ceannairceach]

Considering it is very difficult to determine someone's sexuality without them telling you or otherwise making it blatantly apparent(ie going to a gay bar, joining a gay dating site, etc), that is a very irrational way to go through life.

Since when does going to a gay bar make you gay?

I was shortening what I meant to say; Seeking gay relationships in public. Probably not the best decision, mind.

[GeneralHaNor]

Then surely I'm superior to heterosexuals because, as a bisexual, I'd be less fussy over the gender identity of my mate, and thus be more likely to reproduce?

That doesn't follow at all

You are certainly more likely to get laid, but still equal or less then likely to reproduce.

[Sociobiology]

I see... I find it hard to reconcile myself with the idea of me having a breeding advantage over straight men. The fact that I don't sleep with women seems to fly in the face of such a concept.

Also, don't you think that's a pretty shocking generalisation, that gay men get more sex? I can guarantee that for this homosexual, it certainly is not true.

I agree. That was what Sociobiology said and I was paraphrasing rather than making the argument myself. I may have misrepresented it.

Though it would explain somewhat the common phenomenon of predominantly straight young people going with their own gender in their teens. They're practicing. Of course, an equally persuasive explanation is that they're horny as hell and any sex is better than no sex.

the breeding advantage is on average, it does not apply to each and every individual. this is statistics 101. This is the ground state of any advantage, it only has to be an advantage on average for it to persist in a population, gay men have on average more sexual partners than straight men, it not a generalization it is a statistical difference based on hundreds of studies
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15466599
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/brill/beh/2011/00000148/00000003/art00004?token=005c1a0e320a5747b56e58654624313842316b35217e6b6c44705e4e2663433b393f6a333f25669716abb95a91e4

[Aeronos]

Then surely I'm superior to heterosexuals because, as a bisexual, I'd be less fussy over the gender identity of my mate, and thus be more likely to reproduce?

That doesn't follow at all

You are certainly more likely to get laid, but still equal or less then likely to reproduce.

You can get men who look more effeminate, and thus not really attractive to straight females, ergo I'm more likely to reproduce more, no?

[Sociobiology]

Then surely I'm superior to heterosexuals because, as a bisexual, I'd be less fussy over the gender identity of my mate, and thus be more likely to reproduce?

statistically and behaviorally homosexuals and bisexuals group together as the same group only differing by personal label not behavior.
much live race it is a scientifically meaningless division in humans.

[Sociobiology]

It is in my own best interest to maximize my chance of survival and minimize my competitor's chance of survival. Therefore, if I identify a difference between myself and a competitor, I can vilify it. With time, luck, and skill, society at large will come to view this difference as a negative, creating a situation where society benefits me at the expense of at least one competitor. Then repeat, for a different difference. Eventually I will be on top, and everyone else will be on the bottom. Since I'm heterosexual, homosexuality is one difference that I can attack, and one that is common enough to give me a leg up over a great many people.

you got it, just remember it is not a decision made consciously it is just a genetic instinctual proclivity for said behavior. basically the brain is wired to make said behavior more likely to arise. so of course is you knowingly adopt the behavior it makes you a dick.

[Sociobiology]

practice is the other factor, humans who have more practice at sex (even non-reproductive) preform better and have more offspring, this is the reason forThe evolution of the existence of homosexuality in males.

Wow, this really is a fascinating insight. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the impression I get is that I'm gay because my parents were both players?

Seriously though, how can more sex possibly make people gay? I'm so confused by this line of thinking.

it doesn't you are misunderstanding, having more sex is a statistical result (on average) of being gay, not the other way around. edit in red added for clarity

[Cruciland]

No. The object of attraction is not alive.

In regard to that, if the object is no longer alive and is thus inanimate, should we really be concerned?

Atta boy, Mosasauria!

[Furious Grandmothers]

In regard to that, if the object is no longer alive and is thus inanimate, should we really be concerned?

Atta boy, Mosasauria!

Looking at your post count, I would expect you to know what a gravedig is.

[Cruciland]

Atta boy, Mosasauria!

Looking at your post count, I would expect you to know what a gravedig is.

Oh, dear... How old is this thread?!

[Meryuma]

I saw this on the front page and thought Unhealthy2 was somehow back. It was pretty disappointing.

[Ceannairceach]

I saw this on the front page and thought Unhealthy2 was somehow back. It was pretty disappointing.

My thoughts exactly. Then I saw that I was the first responder and was like "da fuq".

[Norstal]

In regard to that, if the object is no longer alive and is thus inanimate, should we really be concerned?

Atta boy, Mosasauria!

NECROMANCER! Burn them at the stake!

[Tmutarakhan]

In regard to that, if the object is no longer alive and is thus inanimate, should we really be concerned?

Atta boy, Mosasauria!

The object of your posting is no longer alive and thus ought to have remained inanimate.

[Ifreann]

Turn undead!

[Galla-]

It is in my own best interest to maximize my chance of survival and minimize my competitor's chance of survival. Therefore, if I identify a difference between myself and a competitor, I can vilify it. With time, luck, and skill, society at large will come to view this difference as a negative, creating a situation where society benefits me at the expense of at least one competitor. Then repeat, for a different difference. Eventually I will be on top, and everyone else will be on the bottom. Since I'm heterosexual, homosexuality is one difference that I can attack, and one that is common enough to give me a leg up over a great many people.

Stop that, you're never going to have a harem unless you're rich.

[Rex Tyrannorum]

You're forgetting that if kids are taught that homosexuality is normal, they won't reproduce, and the whole species will become extinct in a generation.

Oh, how could I forget the homosexual human extinction theory? Many thanks.

You just got satire'd.

EDIT: Also, a phobia is an irrational fear. So, nothing logical or irrational about it either.

[Mosasauria]

In regard to that, if the object is no longer alive and is thus inanimate, should we really be concerned?

Atta boy, Mosasauria!

Oh the irony... You grave-dig a thread over a necrophiliac comment...

[Rex Tyrannorum]

Atta boy, Mosasauria!

Oh the irony... You grave-dig a thread over a necrophiliac comment...

*laughing my balls off*