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Postby Wilgrove » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:30 pm

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Electrical Permit, Plumbing Permit, Construction Permit.....had to make sure that the facility complied with the North Carolina Animal Welfare Act, had to have each component of the facility signed off on. This includes plumbing, electrical, drywall & insulation, had to make sure that my facility was up to code for the DOT, Fire Department, etc. Had to be inspected by the City, County, AND State. and then I get surprise visits from the State at random intervals. All in all, it took six months to get my current facility up and running.

Thank you.


To be fair though...it's really in the best interest of the animals, esp. when it comes to compliance with the Animal Welfare Act. There has been waaaaayyy too many puppy and kitty mills in this state. So if the laws that I have to comply with actually prevents puppy and kitty mills, then I'm all for it.

The DIFFERENCE between my business and the lemonade stand is that I'm an ADULT, who has the congestive ability to realize that these laws are here for a reason. The kid with a lemonade stand, they're not trying to do a fly by night business, they're not trying to poison anyone or spread E-Coli, they're just wanting to raise money to go to a water park.
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Postby Sovereign Spirits » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:32 pm

Wilgrove wrote:Tell you guys what. After we've taken care of the murders, drug dealers, gang bangers, rapist, child molesters *take deep breath* child abusers, spousal abusers, doctors who are a malpractice suit waiting to happen *take another deep breath* Nuclear warhead, Wars, Genocide, Droughts, all diseases present AND future, and starvation...after we've taken care of ALL of that (and more) THEN we can go after the evil little children and their lemonade stand of terror.

Sorry, but I'd rather have my cops stop actual crimes, rather than bullying little children over a lemonade stand.


Agreed.

This should be a motivator for the residents to change the licensing laws (read: remove them), and to question the purpose and funding of a police force that apparently has nothing more serious going on than busting a children's lemonade stand. Which, essentially, is a fundraiser. I'm sure there's a loophole for that somewhere.

Regardless, this is a symptom of a much larger problem on the part of the city. I hope the residents care enough to do something about it and take it upon themselves to dig for the knowledge necessary to do so. The default should be freedom, and anyone who wishes to constrict it must have a fight on their hands. It ought never to be the other way around, but it often is.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:32 pm

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Ifreann wrote:Yeah, you know, I bet if the Chief of Police wasn't spending so much of his time telling children he happened to drive by to obey the law, then she would have brought about a world wide fucking utopia by now.


All I'm saying is that I think there are more pressing issues that need to be addressed before we go after the Lemonade stands of biological terror.

And what I'm saying is that the police chief and one officer taking a few minutes out of their no doubt busy schedule to enforce the law is not going to thwart any efforts towards solving those issues. They're two cops, not the god damned Batman, the city can cope without them for five or ten minutes.
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Postby Shaoyuan » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:33 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Terra Agora wrote:Thank you.


To be fair though...it's really in the best interest of the animals, esp. when it comes to compliance with the Animal Welfare Act. There has been waaaaayyy too many puppy and kitty mills in this state. So if the laws that I have to comply with actually prevents puppy and kitty mills, then I'm all for it.

The DIFFERENCE between my business and the lemonade stand is that I'm an ADULT, who has the congestive ability to realize that these laws are here for a reason. The kid with a lemonade stand, they're not trying to do a fly by night business, they're not trying to poison anyone or spread E-Coli, they're just wanting to raise money to go to a water park.


So what if that's not what they're trying to do, a speeder might not be trying to be a danger to others but the police have a duty to public protection.
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Postby Wilgrove » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:35 pm

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To be fair though...it's really in the best interest of the animals, esp. when it comes to compliance with the Animal Welfare Act. There has been waaaaayyy too many puppy and kitty mills in this state. So if the laws that I have to comply with actually prevents puppy and kitty mills, then I'm all for it.

The DIFFERENCE between my business and the lemonade stand is that I'm an ADULT, who has the congestive ability to realize that these laws are here for a reason. The kid with a lemonade stand, they're not trying to do a fly by night business, they're not trying to poison anyone or spread E-Coli, they're just wanting to raise money to go to a water park.


So what if that's not what they're trying to do, a speeder might not be trying to be a danger to others but the police have a duty to public protection.


Yes, because we all need protection from the deadly lemonade stand of biological terror.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:36 pm

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Katganistan wrote:E. coli.


Exaggerated.

You have a larger risk of e. coli infection by eating out at any fast food restaurant, or going to the public restroom.

Larger than at this specific lemonade stand? You don't know that.
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Postby Shaoyuan » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:37 pm

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So what if that's not what they're trying to do, a speeder might not be trying to be a danger to others but the police have a duty to public protection.


Yes, because we all need protection from the deadly lemonade stand of biological terror.

You're not very good at this rational debate thing are you.
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Postby Snot Sniper » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:39 pm

I'd be bothered if they had been selling second-hand household items, or anything non-food that they'd made themselves. Food and drink though have health implications.
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Postby Wilgrove » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:39 pm

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Yes, because we all need protection from the deadly lemonade stand of biological terror.

You're not very good at this rational debate thing are you.


I have yet to seen any proof that lemonade stands are a significant threat to our being.

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Postby Orlkjestad » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:39 pm

FUCK DA POLEECE

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Postby Wilgrove » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:40 pm

Orlkjestad wrote:FUCK DA POLEECE


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Postby Shaoyuan » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:41 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Shaoyuan wrote:You're not very good at this rational debate thing are you.


I have yet to seen any proof that lemonade stands are a significant threat to our being.

They can be a public obstruction, can be a nuisance (getting hawked at by kids), could be a health risk, do undermine the taxation and regulatory system. Most importantly from a cop's point of view, it's on the books. So, what is the big scandal here? If they're decided to beat the kids or send them to juvie I might understand the outrage.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:43 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Shaoyuan wrote:You're not very good at this rational debate thing are you.


I have yet to seen any proof that lemonade stands are a significant threat to our being.

Nor have I seen any proof that our being is threatened by police officers enforcing laws other than those against arson, murder, and possession of a nuclear weapon within city limits.
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Postby Galla- » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:43 pm

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Exaggerated.

You have a larger risk of e. coli infection by eating out at any fast food restaurant, or going to the public restroom.

Larger than at this specific lemonade stand? You don't know that.


Was this specific lemonade stand using lemons that have been recalled or something? I don't remember reading that in the article.

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I have yet to seen any proof that lemonade stands are a significant threat to our being.

They can be a public obstruction, can be a nuisance (getting hawked at by kids), could be a health risk, do undermine the taxation and regulatory system. Most importantly from a cop's point of view, it's on the books. So, what is the big scandal here? If they're decided to beat the kids or send them to juvie I might understand the outrage.


The big scandal here is that what we could have done forty years ago is now illegal in the great state of Georgia. Some innocuous and simple as a lemonade stand is now demonized by this perversion of modern American freedom and liberty. America is no longer free, it is now gripped by the tyrannical machinations of big government, Reagan's GOP, and Clinton.

The last good American President was Nixon.
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Postby Orlkjestad » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:44 pm

Galla- wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Larger than at this specific lemonade stand? You don't know that.


Was this specific lemonade stand using lemons that have been recalled or something?

I doubt it.
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Postby New East Ireland » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:44 pm

Clearly, the boy was harvesting crack in dead bodies, which he sold to drug dealers on the rogue streets, not lemonade.
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Postby Hallistar » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:45 pm

If I was in the place of those cops, I would warn the kids about the implications of what they are doing (Safety standards, how the city works, etc) I wouldn't make them feel bad (atleast too much anyways I suppose if warning them makes them feel bad) but maybe I'd get their parents to help them work out any such issues, perhaps relocate to a different area, not sure about any special signs or anything they'd need as per georgia law, and then in a few days time if those issues cant get fixed then ultimately itd need to be shut down.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:45 pm

Galla- wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Larger than at this specific lemonade stand? You don't know that.


Was this specific lemonade stand using lemons that have been recalled or something? I don't remember reading that in the article.

Lord, it's almost as though you can't test something for E. Coli by reading an article on the internet about it.....
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Postby Shaoyuan » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:46 pm

Galla- wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Larger than at this specific lemonade stand? You don't know that.


Was this specific lemonade stand using lemons that have been recalled or something? I don't remember reading that in the article.

Shaoyuan wrote:They can be a public obstruction, can be a nuisance (getting hawked at by kids), could be a health risk, do undermine the taxation and regulatory system. Most importantly from a cop's point of view, it's on the books. So, what is the big scandal here? If they're decided to beat the kids or send them to juvie I might understand the outrage.


The big scandal here is that what we could have done forty years ago is now illegal in the great state of Georgia. Some innocuous and simple as a lemonade stand is now demonized by this perversion of modern American freedom and liberty. America is no longer free, it is now gripped by the tyrannical machinations of big government, Reagan's GOP, and Clinton.


Clearly this is all part of the illuminati's plan. Discrimination against blacks was also legal 40 years ago.
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Postby Wilgrove » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:46 pm

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I have yet to seen any proof that lemonade stands are a significant threat to our being.

They can be a public obstruction, can be a nuisance (getting hawked at by kids), could be a health risk, do undermine the taxation and regulatory system. Most importantly from a cop's point of view, it's on the books. So, what is the big scandal here? If they're decided to beat the kids or send them to juvie I might understand the outrage.


The big scandal is that it was just......pointless. I mean, is the world now safer from the danger of unwashed hands because they told some kids that they couldn't sell lemonade? Was the tax revenue from the lemonade stand going to save our current debt problem? Oh my god, what if the cardboard box and the crudely drawn letters (drawn with crayons) wasn't up to code?! What if they decided to add the power lemonade BEFORE adding the water?! Boy, I'm sure glad the police shut down that lemonade stand, who knows what evil was lurking in the pitcher, the little girls, the packages of powdered lemonade or the cardboard box!

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Postby Galla- » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:47 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Galla- wrote:
Was this specific lemonade stand using lemons that have been recalled or something? I don't remember reading that in the article.

Lord, it's almost as though you can't test something for E. Coli by reading an article on the internet about it.....


A lack of vendor's licence isn't a health dept. finding of e. coli infection.

Try again.

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Galla- wrote:
Was this specific lemonade stand using lemons that have been recalled or something? I don't remember reading that in the article.



The big scandal here is that what we could have done forty years ago is now illegal in the great state of Georgia. Some innocuous and simple as a lemonade stand is now demonized by this perversion of modern American freedom and liberty. America is no longer free, it is now gripped by the tyrannical machinations of big government, Reagan's GOP, and Clinton.


Clearly this is all part of the illuminati's plan. Discrimination against blacks was also legal 40 years ago.


40 years ago was 1971.

No, it wasn't. Discrimination against blacks had been illegal for the most part of six years. 1967-1983 were the last free years of the United States. The last good years, before Reagan and before all this idiotic nonsense.
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Postby Shaoyuan » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:49 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Shaoyuan wrote:They can be a public obstruction, can be a nuisance (getting hawked at by kids), could be a health risk, do undermine the taxation and regulatory system. Most importantly from a cop's point of view, it's on the books. So, what is the big scandal here? If they're decided to beat the kids or send them to juvie I might understand the outrage.


The big scandal is that it was just......pointless. I mean, is the world now safer from the danger of unwashed hands because they told some kids that they couldn't sell lemonade? Was the tax revenue from the lemonade stand going to save our current debt problem? Oh my god, what if the cardboard box and the crudely drawn letters (drawn with crayons) wasn't up to code?! What if they decided to add the power lemonade BEFORE adding the water?! Boy, I'm sure glad the police shut down that lemonade stand, who knows what evil was lurking in the pitcher, the little girls, the packages of powdered lemonade or the cardboard box!

Because if what a police officer can do in 5 minutes of talking to some kids isn't busting an international drugs cartel wide open it's obviously not worth doing.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:49 pm

Galla- wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Lord, it's almost as though you can't test something for E. Coli by reading an article on the internet about it.....


A lack of vendor's licence isn't a health dept. finding of e. coli infection.

Try again.

I'm still waiting for you to try the first time. But hey, if you'd piss about trying to catch me out in a fallacy or unsourced claim than backing up your own claims then who am I to stop you?
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Postby Wilgrove » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:51 pm

Shaoyuan wrote:
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The big scandal is that it was just......pointless. I mean, is the world now safer from the danger of unwashed hands because they told some kids that they couldn't sell lemonade? Was the tax revenue from the lemonade stand going to save our current debt problem? Oh my god, what if the cardboard box and the crudely drawn letters (drawn with crayons) wasn't up to code?! What if they decided to add the power lemonade BEFORE adding the water?! Boy, I'm sure glad the police shut down that lemonade stand, who knows what evil was lurking in the pitcher, the little girls, the packages of powdered lemonade or the cardboard box!

Because if what a police officer can do in 5 minutes of talking to some kids isn't busting an international drugs cartel wide open it's obviously not worth doing.


Priorities man, priorities.

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Postby Orlkjestad » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:52 pm

It is obvious that the lemonade stand was part of the international communist conspiracy to impurify our precious bodily fluids.

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