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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:52 am

Parhe wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... icide_rate

Second in the world, still behind Lithuania.

Why would Lits be so unhappy about anyway, though?

Maybe they miss mother Russia?
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:53 am

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Vellosia wrote:I've heard about this before.

To be honest, it further highlights the dysfunctionality of Japanese society. Like how they have one of the highest rates of mental illness, serial killers and suicides in the developed world. Weird place, weird society.


You're making rather large assumptions about the state of Japanese society, I'm afraid. Understand that from our point of view, rather a lot of other nations look dysfunctional and weird.

Overall, you shouldn't make too much of it. In every society, there are fringe eccentrics; though it's true that Japan has it's fair share of social problems (a high suicide rate encouraged by tradition-grounded social acceptance and encouragement, the Hikkikomori issue etc), this shouldn't really be taken as a reflection of Japanese society as a whole.

I dunno, people seem pretty happy to make a point of the violence in American society when the suicide problem in Japan kills 4 times as many people (proportional to population).
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Postby Parhe » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:53 am

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Parhe wrote:Why would Lits be so unhappy about anyway, though?

Maybe they miss mother Russia?

I think you are talking about the Belorussians.
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Postby Norstal » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:54 am

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Parhe wrote:Why would Lits be so unhappy about anyway, though?

Maybe they miss mother Russia?

I don't understand why SK would have such a high suicide rate. Maybe it's because of the Asian Financial Crash? That one is depressing. Or maybe it's because they have that unfriendly neighbor up north.
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Postby Parhe » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:54 am

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Anemos Major wrote:
You're making rather large assumptions about the state of Japanese society, I'm afraid. Understand that from our point of view, rather a lot of other nations look dysfunctional and weird.

Overall, you shouldn't make too much of it. In every society, there are fringe eccentrics; though it's true that Japan has it's fair share of social problems (a high suicide rate encouraged by tradition-grounded social acceptance and encouragement, the Hikkikomori issue etc), this shouldn't really be taken as a reflection of Japanese society as a whole.

I dunno, people seem pretty happy to make a point of the violence in American society when the suicide problem in Japan kills 4 times as many people (proportional to population).

I don't really take suicide to represent violence, more a country's happiness.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:55 am

Parhe wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... icide_rate

Second in the world, still behind Lithuania.

Why would Lits be so unhappy about anyway, though?

Because Eastern Europe is depressing? The Russians really fucked them up?

All that area is a bit whacky- even Finns like to off themselves.
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:55 am

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Arumdaum wrote:Maybe they miss mother Russia?

I don't understand why SK would have such a high suicide rate. Maybe it's because of the Asian Financial Crash? That one is depressing. Or maybe it's because they have that unfriendly neighbor up north.

Overemphasis on education, child abuse is common, parents do not show sympathy towards their children and instead do their best to criticize them, huge bullying problems, and if you look or act different most likely you won't be accepted in society.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:56 am

Parhe wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:I dunno, people seem pretty happy to make a point of the violence in American society when the suicide problem in Japan kills 4 times as many people (proportional to population).

I don't really take suicide to represent violence, more a country's happiness.

I would agree... no one has said otherwise.
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:56 am

Parhe wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:I dunno, people seem pretty happy to make a point of the violence in American society when the suicide problem in Japan kills 4 times as many people (proportional to population).

I don't really take suicide to represent violence, more a country's happiness.

You take a country's happiness to represent violence? :blink:
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Postby Parhe » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:57 am

Arumdaum wrote:
Parhe wrote:I don't really take suicide to represent violence, more a country's happiness.

You take a country's happiness to represent violence? :blink:

no, that suicide rates represent country's happiness, than suicide rates represent violence.
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Postby Kalysk » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:57 am

Arumdaum wrote:
Parhe wrote:I don't really take suicide to represent violence, more a country's happiness.

You take a country's happiness to represent violence? :blink:

The lack of happiness, probably.
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:58 am

Parhe wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:You take a country's happiness to represent violence? :blink:

no, that suicide rates represent country's happiness, than suicide rates represent violence.

Ohhhh, that. I totally agree.

Why would anyone think otherwise? :blink:
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Postby Norstal » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:58 am

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Norstal wrote:I don't understand why SK would have such a high suicide rate. Maybe it's because of the Asian Financial Crash? That one is depressing. Or maybe it's because they have that unfriendly neighbor up north.

Overemphasis on education, child abuse is common, parents do not show sympathy towards their children and instead do their best to criticize them, huge bullying problems, and if you look or act different most likely you won't be accepted in society.

Hey, that sounds like almost all of Asia!

God we Asians are depressing... :(
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:59 am

Norstal wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Maybe they miss mother Russia?

I don't understand why SK would have such a high suicide rate. Maybe it's because of the Asian Financial Crash? That one is depressing. Or maybe it's because they have that unfriendly neighbor up north.

The WSJ wrote:The OECD notes that the rate in South Korea has increased rapidly even as it has slowed in most other developed nations, with suicides among South Korean males, for instance, almost tripling between 1990 and 2006.

The OECD report attributes the rise to "weakening social integration and erosion of the traditional family support base for the elderly," as well as a fast-changing economy over much of the period. Lee Min-soo, professor of psychiatry at Korea University College of Medicine, supports this view. The high rate of suicide is the result of "social changes that the country's fast economic development brought and a culture that did not adapt to them."
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:00 am

Norstal wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Overemphasis on education, child abuse is common, parents do not show sympathy towards their children and instead do their best to criticize them, huge bullying problems, and if you look or act different most likely you won't be accepted in society.

Hey, that sounds like almost all of Asia!

God we Asians are depressing... :(

Don't look at me, I'm only ethnically Asian. >___>
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:01 am

Arumdaum wrote:
Norstal wrote:Hey, that sounds like almost all of Asia!

God we Asians are depressing... :(

Don't look at me, I'm only ethnically Asian. >___>

Maybe its genetic. :ugeek:
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Postby Barrasso » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:02 am

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Funny, I forgot what this was about for a moment

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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:02 am

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Don't look at me, I'm only ethnically Asian. >___>

Maybe its genetic. :ugeek:

But I'm a bleeding heart liberal that loves kids and cries whenever there's a sad movie on. :(
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Postby Agritum » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:03 am

Arumdaum wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Maybe its genetic. :ugeek:

But I'm a bleeding heart liberal that loves kids and cries whenever there's a sad movie on. :(

aww :blush:

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Postby Norstal » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:03 am

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Norstal wrote:I don't understand why SK would have such a high suicide rate. Maybe it's because of the Asian Financial Crash? That one is depressing. Or maybe it's because they have that unfriendly neighbor up north.

The WSJ wrote:The OECD notes that the rate in South Korea has increased rapidly even as it has slowed in most other developed nations, with suicides among South Korean males, for instance, almost tripling between 1990 and 2006.

The OECD report attributes the rise to "weakening social integration and erosion of the traditional family support base for the elderly," as well as a fast-changing economy over much of the period. Lee Min-soo, professor of psychiatry at Korea University College of Medicine, supports this view. The high rate of suicide is the result of "social changes that the country's fast economic development brought and a culture that did not adapt to them."

I thought it would be Karoshi or some other problems the economy brought forth.

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:04 am

Arumdaum wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Maybe its genetic. :ugeek:

But I'm a bleeding heart liberal that loves kids and cries whenever there's a sad movie on. :(

Clearly its just a manifestation of your own inner unrest. *nods sagely*

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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:04 am

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Arumdaum wrote:But I'm a bleeding heart liberal that loves kids and cries whenever there's a sad movie on. :(

aww :blush:

You make me feel like I'm at school again. :lol:
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:08 am

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Lackadaisical2 wrote:

I thought it would be Karoshi or some other problems the economy brought forth.

Read the whole thing, heres a bit more of the article:

"But at the same time as this "economic miracle" has swept the country to greater riches, many traditional social structures have broken down, with smaller families, rising house prices, the end of lifelong employment, fierce competition for the best jobs and rising alcoholism."

Althoguh they incorrectly blame alcoholism. >.>
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:08 am

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:But I'm a bleeding heart liberal that loves kids and cries whenever there's a sad movie on. :(

Clearly its just a manifestation of your own inner unrest. *nods sagely*

:hug:

I never knew. :o

What should I do rest my unrest? :(

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Postby Churchilland » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:09 am

Apparently it's because Japan is so efficient and crowded it feels lonely, I saw something on about it on the BBC Show Andrew Marr's Megacities when he was in Tokyo
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