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Atheist and left wing.

Ceannairceach wrote:Common courtesy is that the OP gives his opinion first.

I, personally, am atheist and socially liberal, and an economic centrist.

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Hello, I'm an Agnostic, I don't believe in anything, and I'm neither on the traditional right-wing or left-wing; I'm a liberal right-wing Capitalist, completed opposed to all Government.

Atheist, Left-Wing. I can't believe we are so well represented on nationstates. A jump forward, to be sure.

JJ Place wrote:Hello, I'm an Agnostic, I don't believe in anything, and I'm neither on the traditional right-wing or left-wing; I'm a liberal right-wing Capitalist, completed opposed to all Government.

And that's called Libertarian.

Augarundus wrote:

Libertarian Mesa wrote:
It seems our libertarianism interpretations differ.

Wikipedia wrote:Libertarianism is a political philosophy that holds individual liberty as the organizing principle of society.

You aren't a libertarian. You're conservative.

I believe in strong individual and democratic rights, if not excessive. I Interpret libertarianism in a different way, as do left-libertarians.

Libertarian Mesa wrote:

Augarundus wrote:


You aren't a libertarian. You're conservative.

I believe in strong individual and democratic rights, if not excessive.

Sounds like a liberal conservative.

Stachland wrote:Sometimes I feel like it's weird for atheists to lean so strongly leftwards, because it seems like one could justify more right-wing principles with the lack of a precisely-defined moral compass than left-wing. Conversely, significant portions of Christian philosophy are very liberal, some almost communist, and yet Christians are normally right-wing by a good margin.

I'm atheist/agnostic and liberal. I've actually had this discussion with some of my Christian friends. I don't like how, at least in America, Christian often means lunatic right wing. I mean, I think Christ would have LOVED things like welfare, low income housing, social security and medicare/medicaid, and I don't really think he would have liked the evils of laissez-faire capitalism (of which there are many). I also don't think he would have liked the selfishness of the extreme right wing or the insane excesses of the super wealthy that they protect.

But ever since the 1980's, the politicization of Christianity started with the "Moral Majority" and now every politician feels the need to tell me about their "personal relationship with God" and how morally upstanding they are, which are usually just meaningless words to them. The Christians are allowing themselves to be manipulated by the wealthy who want to remove their social safety nets and make themselves even more rich and powerful than they already are. You become super wealthy by ignoring the principles of Christianity, not the other way around. Christians should know this and recognize these people for what they are and be a little more critical of the things they say and, more importantly, the things they do.

Esternial wrote:

Genivaria wrote:Atheist and socialist.

This, actually.

We're breeding. Be afraid.

Officially Secular, and definitely Left Wing.

Athiest, but usualy central, so left-wing was the nearest for me.

I'm Agnostic-Humanist and am fairly left of centre, however still in the "non-extreme zone", if you will.

I'm left-wing and spiritual, but since none of the categories fit me I checked "agnostic". None of the religious beliefs really listed fit me.
It's hard for me to tell whether my spiritual beliefs affect my politics.

If I may interject, I doubt any one person is fully left- or fully right-wing. Constructing the poll in such a manner simplifies things, but might not produce decent accuracy or precision. Looks like you'll have better luck going through the posts themselves and ignoring that limitation.

To demonstrate, here's my contribution:
- Spiritual, believe in a God, but non-religious (in short, I don't lose any sleep over it).
- Primarily anarchist, will accept Libertarianism and the role of government to match that (until it doesn't).

Hwanghaebuk wrote: Atheist, liberal right.
(for americans: economically somewhat to the left from libertarians, on values roughly the same)

How so?

Libertarian Mesa wrote:I believe in strong individual and democratic rights, if not excessive. I Interpret libertarianism in a different way, as do left-libertarians.

"strong rights" = wtf?

Also, what rights. Specifically. Don't do another "Reagan freed up the economy" without explaining what you're talking about.

Explain your interpretation of libertarianism. I mean, it's interesting to note that it differs from the definition of libertarianism (not right or left wing libertarianism; libertarianism as a concept). You aren't a left libertarian (you're statist and support Reaganomics). You aren't a right libertarian (you're a social conservative w/ democracy fetish and you aren't laissez-faire). Paleolibertarianism does NOT support social conservatism (it advocates cultural conservatism/conceptual nationalism).

You aren't libertarian. Whatever interpretation of libertarianism you're offering is just a renamed version of conservatism; you can't justify Reaganomics, social conservatism, Athenian/direct/total democracy, interventionist foreign policy, etc. under any system of libertarianism. Individually, some of those (total democracy) can be exhibited in some systems (left libertarianism), but, on the whole, your entire ideology is neoconservative. It bothers libertarians to see you mangle terms like this and toss in your lot (which is anti-libertarian) with the rest of us.

Hmm... Prodestant Christian, socially left (With some social libertarian leanings, I'm from Nevada), economically center left'ish, and I make an effort to NOT let my religious views impact my political ones for the most part. Society in general doesn't need to follow what I believe, it should be working towards what's best for it and the people in it.

Left libertarian naturalistic atheist. I guess I confirm the stereotype in that way.

Hyper-agnostic atheist who is a state socialist.

Augarundus wrote:

Libertarian Mesa wrote:I believe in strong individual and democratic rights, if not excessive. I Interpret libertarianism in a different way, as do left-libertarians.

"strong rights" = wtf?

Also, what rights. Specifically. Don't do another "Reagan freed up the economy" without explaining what you're talking about.

Explain your interpretation of libertarianism. I mean, it's interesting to note that it differs from the definition of libertarianism (not right or left wing libertarianism; libertarianism as a concept). You aren't a left libertarian (you're statist and support Reaganomics). You aren't a right libertarian (you're a social conservative w/ democracy fetish and you aren't laissez-faire). Paleolibertarianism does NOT support social conservatism (it advocates cultural conservatism/conceptual nationalism).

You aren't libertarian. Whatever interpretation of libertarianism you're offering is just a renamed version of conservatism; you can't justify Reaganomics, social conservatism, Athenian/direct/total democracy, interventionist foreign policy, etc. under any system of libertarianism. Individually, some of those (total democracy) can be exhibited in some systems (left libertarianism), but, on the whole, your entire ideology is neoconservative. It bothers libertarians to see you mangle terms like this and toss in your lot (which is anti-libertarian) with the rest of us.

Keep in mind, when conservatives want to seem hip and edgy they try to claim they're libertarians, no matter how inaccurate it is for them to claim that title.

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Keep in mind, when conservatives want to seem hip and edgy they try to claim they're libertarians, no matter how inaccurate it is for them to claim that title.

This is basically the Tea Party.

I don't fit into such a simplistic spectrum.

A National-Anarchocorporatist.

Nationalism, Anarchism, Corporatism(Not rule by corporations), Militarism, Anti-Moralism and Transhumanism.

One Nation, One Path, One Ideology.

Augarundus wrote:

Libertarian Mesa wrote:I believe in strong individual and democratic rights, if not excessive. I Interpret libertarianism in a different way, as do left-libertarians.

"strong rights" = wtf?

Also, what rights. Specifically. Don't do another "Reagan freed up the economy" without explaining what you're talking about.

Explain your interpretation of libertarianism. I mean, it's interesting to note that it differs from the definition of libertarianism (not right or left wing libertarianism; libertarianism as a concept). You aren't a left libertarian (you're statist and support Reaganomics). You aren't a right libertarian (you're a social conservative w/ democracy fetish and you aren't laissez-faire). Paleolibertarianism does NOT support social conservatism (it advocates cultural conservatism/conceptual nationalism).

You aren't libertarian. Whatever interpretation of libertarianism you're offering is just a renamed version of conservatism; you can't justify Reaganomics, social conservatism, Athenian/direct/total democracy, interventionist foreign policy, etc. under any system of libertarianism. Individually, some of those (total democracy) can be exhibited in some systems (left libertarianism), but, on the whole, your entire ideology is neoconservative. It bothers libertarians to see you mangle terms like this and toss in your lot (which is anti-libertarian) with the rest of us.

Strong rights are very effective if followed by a series of solid lefts.

Buddhist and Left-Wing

Farnhamia wrote:Strong rights are very effective if followed by a series of solid lefts.

I lol'd