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Your Religion and Politics

Atheist/Agnostic and Left-Wing
63
53%
Atheist/Agnostic and Right-Wing
14
12%
Christian and Left-Wing
14
12%
Christian and Right-Wing
23
19%
Muslim and Left-Wing
2
2%
Muslim and Right-Wing
1
1%
Jewish and Left-Wing
0
No votes
Jewish and Right-Wing
2
2%
Hindu and Left-Wing
1
1%
Hindu and Right-Wing
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 120

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Naurobia
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Postby Naurobia » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:14 pm

Atheist and left wing.
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Flaming Soul Forces
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Moralistic Democracy

Postby Flaming Soul Forces » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:15 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:Common courtesy is that the OP gives his opinion first.

I, personally, am atheist and socially liberal, and an economic centrist.

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JJ Place
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Postby JJ Place » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:17 pm

Hello, I'm an Agnostic, I don't believe in anything, and I'm neither on the traditional right-wing or left-wing; I'm a liberal right-wing Capitalist, completed opposed to all Government.
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New Alaxia
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Postby New Alaxia » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:36 pm

Atheist, Left-Wing. I can't believe we are so well represented on nationstates. A jump forward, to be sure.
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Postby New Alaxia » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:37 pm

JJ Place wrote:Hello, I'm an Agnostic, I don't believe in anything, and I'm neither on the traditional right-wing or left-wing; I'm a liberal right-wing Capitalist, completed opposed to all Government.

And that's called Libertarian.
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Libertarian Mesa
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Postby Libertarian Mesa » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:38 pm

Augarundus wrote:
Libertarian Mesa wrote:
It seems our libertarianism interpretations differ.


Wikipedia wrote:Libertarianism is a political philosophy that holds individual liberty as the organizing principle of society.


You aren't a libertarian. You're conservative.

I believe in strong individual and democratic rights, if not excessive. I Interpret libertarianism in a different way, as do left-libertarians.
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:39 pm

Libertarian Mesa wrote:
Augarundus wrote:


You aren't a libertarian. You're conservative.

I believe in strong individual and democratic rights, if not excessive.


Sounds like a liberal conservative.
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Postby Gannerstan » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:45 pm

Stachland wrote:Sometimes I feel like it's weird for atheists to lean so strongly leftwards, because it seems like one could justify more right-wing principles with the lack of a precisely-defined moral compass than left-wing. Conversely, significant portions of Christian philosophy are very liberal, some almost communist, and yet Christians are normally right-wing by a good margin.


I'm atheist/agnostic and liberal. I've actually had this discussion with some of my Christian friends. I don't like how, at least in America, Christian often means lunatic right wing. I mean, I think Christ would have LOVED things like welfare, low income housing, social security and medicare/medicaid, and I don't really think he would have liked the evils of laissez-faire capitalism (of which there are many). I also don't think he would have liked the selfishness of the extreme right wing or the insane excesses of the super wealthy that they protect.

But ever since the 1980's, the politicization of Christianity started with the "Moral Majority" and now every politician feels the need to tell me about their "personal relationship with God" and how morally upstanding they are, which are usually just meaningless words to them. The Christians are allowing themselves to be manipulated by the wealthy who want to remove their social safety nets and make themselves even more rich and powerful than they already are. You become super wealthy by ignoring the principles of Christianity, not the other way around. Christians should know this and recognize these people for what they are and be a little more critical of the things they say and, more importantly, the things they do.

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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:48 pm

Esternial wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Atheist and socialist.

This, actually.

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Religion and our politics.

Postby Canadian Davsland » Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:10 pm

Officially Secular, and definitely Left Wing.
I support Left Wing Socialism, and I am Anti Capitalism, I support Egalitarianism, and I support Socialist Libertarianism. I also believe corporatism is a poison in the world, and is unfair to the poor and middle class.

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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Celritannia » Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:17 pm

Athiest, but usualy central, so left-wing was the nearest for me.
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Drummond and Elmsley
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Postby Drummond and Elmsley » Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:17 pm

I'm Agnostic-Humanist and am fairly left of centre, however still in the "non-extreme zone", if you will.

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Postby Lucent Dawn » Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:21 pm

I'm left-wing and spiritual, but since none of the categories fit me I checked "agnostic". None of the religious beliefs really listed fit me.
It's hard for me to tell whether my spiritual beliefs affect my politics.
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Postby Sovereign Spirits » Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:27 pm

If I may interject, I doubt any one person is fully left- or fully right-wing. Constructing the poll in such a manner simplifies things, but might not produce decent accuracy or precision. Looks like you'll have better luck going through the posts themselves and ignoring that limitation.

To demonstrate, here's my contribution:
- Spiritual, believe in a God, but non-religious (in short, I don't lose any sleep over it).
- Primarily anarchist, will accept Libertarianism and the role of government to match that (until it doesn't).
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Amacia
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Postby Amacia » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:59 pm

Hwanghaebuk wrote: Atheist, liberal right.
(for americans: economically somewhat to the left from libertarians, on values roughly the same)

How so?
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Postby Augarundus » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:07 pm

Libertarian Mesa wrote:I believe in strong individual and democratic rights, if not excessive. I Interpret libertarianism in a different way, as do left-libertarians.


"strong rights" = wtf?

Also, what rights. Specifically. Don't do another "Reagan freed up the economy" without explaining what you're talking about.

Explain your interpretation of libertarianism. I mean, it's interesting to note that it differs from the definition of libertarianism (not right or left wing libertarianism; libertarianism as a concept). You aren't a left libertarian (you're statist and support Reaganomics). You aren't a right libertarian (you're a social conservative w/ democracy fetish and you aren't laissez-faire). Paleolibertarianism does NOT support social conservatism (it advocates cultural conservatism/conceptual nationalism).

You aren't libertarian. Whatever interpretation of libertarianism you're offering is just a renamed version of conservatism; you can't justify Reaganomics, social conservatism, Athenian/direct/total democracy, interventionist foreign policy, etc. under any system of libertarianism. Individually, some of those (total democracy) can be exhibited in some systems (left libertarianism), but, on the whole, your entire ideology is neoconservative. It bothers libertarians to see you mangle terms like this and toss in your lot (which is anti-libertarian) with the rest of us.
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Postby NERVUN » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:57 pm

Hmm... Prodestant Christian, socially left (With some social libertarian leanings, I'm from Nevada), economically center left'ish, and I make an effort to NOT let my religious views impact my political ones for the most part. Society in general doesn't need to follow what I believe, it should be working towards what's best for it and the people in it.
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Postby Unhealthy2 » Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:03 pm

Left libertarian naturalistic atheist. I guess I confirm the stereotype in that way.
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Postby Mosasauria » Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:05 pm

Hyper-agnostic atheist who is a state socialist.
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:06 pm

Augarundus wrote:
Libertarian Mesa wrote:I believe in strong individual and democratic rights, if not excessive. I Interpret libertarianism in a different way, as do left-libertarians.


"strong rights" = wtf?

Also, what rights. Specifically. Don't do another "Reagan freed up the economy" without explaining what you're talking about.

Explain your interpretation of libertarianism. I mean, it's interesting to note that it differs from the definition of libertarianism (not right or left wing libertarianism; libertarianism as a concept). You aren't a left libertarian (you're statist and support Reaganomics). You aren't a right libertarian (you're a social conservative w/ democracy fetish and you aren't laissez-faire). Paleolibertarianism does NOT support social conservatism (it advocates cultural conservatism/conceptual nationalism).

You aren't libertarian. Whatever interpretation of libertarianism you're offering is just a renamed version of conservatism; you can't justify Reaganomics, social conservatism, Athenian/direct/total democracy, interventionist foreign policy, etc. under any system of libertarianism. Individually, some of those (total democracy) can be exhibited in some systems (left libertarianism), but, on the whole, your entire ideology is neoconservative. It bothers libertarians to see you mangle terms like this and toss in your lot (which is anti-libertarian) with the rest of us.


Keep in mind, when conservatives want to seem hip and edgy they try to claim they're libertarians, no matter how inaccurate it is for them to claim that title.
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Augarundus
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Postby Augarundus » Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:23 pm

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Keep in mind, when conservatives want to seem hip and edgy they try to claim they're libertarians, no matter how inaccurate it is for them to claim that title.


This is basically the Tea Party.
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Postby Volnotova » Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:26 pm

I don't fit into such a simplistic spectrum.

A National-Anarchocorporatist.

Nationalism, Anarchism, Corporatism(Not rule by corporations), Militarism, Anti-Moralism and Transhumanism.

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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:30 pm

Augarundus wrote:
Libertarian Mesa wrote:I believe in strong individual and democratic rights, if not excessive. I Interpret libertarianism in a different way, as do left-libertarians.


"strong rights" = wtf?

Also, what rights. Specifically. Don't do another "Reagan freed up the economy" without explaining what you're talking about.

Explain your interpretation of libertarianism. I mean, it's interesting to note that it differs from the definition of libertarianism (not right or left wing libertarianism; libertarianism as a concept). You aren't a left libertarian (you're statist and support Reaganomics). You aren't a right libertarian (you're a social conservative w/ democracy fetish and you aren't laissez-faire). Paleolibertarianism does NOT support social conservatism (it advocates cultural conservatism/conceptual nationalism).

You aren't libertarian. Whatever interpretation of libertarianism you're offering is just a renamed version of conservatism; you can't justify Reaganomics, social conservatism, Athenian/direct/total democracy, interventionist foreign policy, etc. under any system of libertarianism. Individually, some of those (total democracy) can be exhibited in some systems (left libertarianism), but, on the whole, your entire ideology is neoconservative. It bothers libertarians to see you mangle terms like this and toss in your lot (which is anti-libertarian) with the rest of us.

Strong rights are very effective if followed by a series of solid lefts.
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Postby Imperial Shogun Japan » Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:32 pm

Buddhist and Left-Wing

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Postby Augarundus » Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:36 pm

Farnhamia wrote:Strong rights are very effective if followed by a series of solid lefts.


I lol'd
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