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Postby Icketopia » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:15 pm

Unhealthy2 wrote:
Icketopia wrote:To be honest, Wikipedia does have somewhat of a liberal bias. Almost every conservative/patriot group and activist is incorrectly or very vaugely linked to Nazism and white supremacy.


I've never noticed this. At all. Source?

In the article for one conservative book I've read, Wikipedia incorrectly says that one of the cited sources was from a white nationalist, which I looked up personally and found out not to be true. They go out of their way to make even mainstream conservatives seem sketchy whilst praising and ignoring the faults of similar liberals

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Postby Episarta » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:20 pm

Icketopia wrote:
Unhealthy2 wrote:
I've never noticed this. At all. Source?

In the article for one conservative book I've read, Wikipedia incorrectly says that one of the cited sources was from a white nationalist, which I looked up personally and found out not to be true. They go out of their way to make even mainstream conservatives seem sketchy whilst praising and ignoring the faults of similar liberals


Maybe your observation is biased itself...? :ugeek:
I have seen conservatives related to such things, mostly because they are more vocal. But they don't completely ignore the faults of liberals. Of course, it might also just be that liberals are fairly decent people while conservatives are not... BIAS!!!
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Postby Florin and Atlantis » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:21 pm

Unhealthy2 wrote:http://conservapedia.com/Counterexamples_to_Relativity

My god, look at number 12.

Should I laugh, or should I cry?


Dunno if it was pointed out earlier in the thread, but gravity waves are proven and if you go to the beach they happen right before your eyes.

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Postby Icketopia » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:22 pm

Episarta wrote:
Icketopia wrote:In the article for one conservative book I've read, Wikipedia incorrectly says that one of the cited sources was from a white nationalist, which I looked up personally and found out not to be true. They go out of their way to make even mainstream conservatives seem sketchy whilst praising and ignoring the faults of similar liberals


Maybe your observation is biased itself...? :ugeek:
I have seen conservatives related to such things, mostly because they are more vocal. But they don't completely ignore the faults of liberals. Of course, it might also just be that liberals are fairly decent people while conservatives are not... BIAS!!!


Im just saying, there are good people who have strong views who don't deserve and dont apreciate being labeled "racists" every time they express an unorthodox opinion

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Postby Episarta » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:23 pm

Icketopia wrote:
Episarta wrote:
Maybe your observation is biased itself...? :ugeek:
I have seen conservatives related to such things, mostly because they are more vocal. But they don't completely ignore the faults of liberals. Of course, it might also just be that liberals are fairly decent people while conservatives are not... BIAS!!!


Im just saying, there are good people who have strong views who don't deserve and dont apreciate being labeled "racists" every time they express an unorthodox opinion


I doubt they were being labeled as racists.
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:23 pm

Icketopia wrote:
Episarta wrote:
Maybe your observation is biased itself...? :ugeek:
I have seen conservatives related to such things, mostly because they are more vocal. But they don't completely ignore the faults of liberals. Of course, it might also just be that liberals are fairly decent people while conservatives are not... BIAS!!!


Im just saying, there are good people who have strong views who don't deserve and dont apreciate being labeled "racists" every time they express an unorthodox opinion


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Postby Icketopia » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:25 pm

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Icketopia wrote:
Im just saying, there are good people who have strong views who don't deserve and dont apreciate being labeled "racists" every time they express an unorthodox opinion


If non-racist nationalists don't wish to be associated with racist nationalists perhaps they shouldn't associate with racist nationalists.


Every one has different views. If you keep saying "This person's not for me," where do you stop?

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Postby Unhealthy2 » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:25 pm

Icketopia wrote:In the article for one conservative book I've read, Wikipedia incorrectly says that one of the cited sources was from a white nationalist, which I looked up personally and found out not to be true. They go out of their way to make even mainstream conservatives seem sketchy whilst praising and ignoring the faults of similar liberals


I'm dismissing your other claims as too vague to be meaningful.

Care to tell me what the book is, and what white nationalist was cited? I mean, it should be easy to prove, yes?
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:27 pm

Icketopia wrote:
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
If non-racist nationalists don't wish to be associated with racist nationalists perhaps they shouldn't associate with racist nationalists.


Every one has different views. If you keep saying "This person's not for me," where do you stop?


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Postby -West » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:27 pm

Conservapedia is BLEH...

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Postby Kazomal » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:28 pm

Unhealthy2 wrote:
Icketopia wrote:In the article for one conservative book I've read, Wikipedia incorrectly says that one of the cited sources was from a white nationalist, which I looked up personally and found out not to be true. They go out of their way to make even mainstream conservatives seem sketchy whilst praising and ignoring the faults of similar liberals


I'm dismissing your other claims as too vague to be meaningful.

Care to tell me what the book is, and what white nationalist was cited? I mean, it should be easy to prove, yes?


Yeah, link us the wikipedia entry
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Postby Icketopia » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:29 pm

Unhealthy2 wrote:
Icketopia wrote:In the article for one conservative book I've read, Wikipedia incorrectly says that one of the cited sources was from a white nationalist, which I looked up personally and found out not to be true. They go out of their way to make even mainstream conservatives seem sketchy whilst praising and ignoring the faults of similar liberals


I'm dismissing your other claims as too vague to be meaningful.

Care to tell me what the book is, and what white nationalist was cited? I mean, it should be easy to prove, yes?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where%27s_ ... ificate%3F
James Edwards was never cited once in the book. Mr. Corsi appeared on his radio show once because he was tricked into thinking it was a mainstream conservative talk show. Once he found out they had racist leanings, he refused to appear on the show again, and disowned his appearance

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Postby Episarta » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:29 pm



Everything "liberal" has to do with Hitler in one way or another.
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Postby Icketopia » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:29 pm

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Icketopia wrote:
Every one has different views. If you keep saying "This person's not for me," where do you stop?


Not taking donations from Grand Imperial Wizards is a good place to start.

Who takes these donations?

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Postby Kazomal » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:30 pm

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Icketopia wrote:
Im just saying, there are good people who have strong views who don't deserve and dont apreciate being labeled "racists" every time they express an unorthodox opinion


If non-racist nationalists don't wish to be associated with racist nationalists perhaps they shouldn't associate with racist nationalists.


Like this chode:
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Seriously, if I was a patriot, I'd be pissed at that defacement of the American flag. If it was a Greek flag, I'd rip it right off his chest.
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Postby Unhealthy2 » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:31 pm

Icketopia wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where%27s_the_Birth_Certificate%3F
James Edwards was never cited once in the book. Mr. Corsi appeared on his radio show once because he was tricked into thinking it was a mainstream conservative talk show. Once he found out they had racist leanings, he refused to appear on the show again, and disowned his appearance


Does anyone have access to this book, in order to verify this claim that the citation is false?

It's pretty convenient that you'd pick such an obscure book. That way, none of us can check.
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Postby Icketopia » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:32 pm

Unhealthy2 wrote:
Icketopia wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where%27s_the_Birth_Certificate%3F
James Edwards was never cited once in the book. Mr. Corsi appeared on his radio show once because he was tricked into thinking it was a mainstream conservative talk show. Once he found out they had racist leanings, he refused to appear on the show again, and disowned his appearance


Does anyone have access to this book, in order to verify this claim that the citation is false?

It's pretty convenient that you'd pick such an obscure book. That way, none of us can check.


It's on the best-seller list. Every major bookstore sells it. When I went to read it at one, someone slipped in a pro-Obama newspaper clipping as a sort of bookmark in the middle of the book

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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:33 pm

Icketopia wrote:
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Not taking donations from Grand Imperial Wizards is a good place to start.

Who takes these donations?


Nonsrs post was non-serious.
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Postby Unhealthy2 » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:34 pm

Icketopia wrote:It's on the best-seller list. Every major bookstore sells it. When I went to read it at one, someone slipped in a pro-Obama newspaper clipping as a sort of bookmark in the middle of the book


Well I'm not going out and spending however much the book costs just to verify your claim. That's not my job, and it's also unreasonable to expect me to pay money to do so. That's why I asked if anyone else has access to the book.
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Postby Jinos » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:38 pm

It's well known that most of Conservapedia's contributors are trolls. Wild mass guessing speculates that Shlafly is a troll too.
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Postby Natty Narwhal » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:02 pm

Jinos wrote:It's well known that most of Conservapedia's contributors are trolls. Wild mass guessing speculates that Shlafly is a troll too.


I dunno. Fox News probably supports most of their arguments. Hell, Fox probably gets most of their arguments from Conservapedia.
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Postby Free Soviets » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:38 pm

Unhealthy2 wrote:
Icketopia wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where%27s_the_Birth_Certificate%3F
James Edwards was never cited once in the book. Mr. Corsi appeared on his radio show once because he was tricked into thinking it was a mainstream conservative talk show. Once he found out they had racist leanings, he refused to appear on the show again, and disowned his appearance

Does anyone have access to this book, in order to verify this claim that the citation is false?

It's pretty convenient that you'd pick such an obscure book. That way, none of us can check.

we're in luck. i happened to be at the bookstore just now. so let's see how well the claim,
Icketopia wrote:James Edwards was never cited once in the [Where's the Birth Certificate?]
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in other news...holy fuck, wingers are fucking retarded and the wingnut welfare machine clearly has too much money to burn. this is a real book being sold in stores, whose titular question was answered before it was published by obama saying, 'right here, fool.' and yet the koch brothers have bought up enough copies to put it on the best-seller list.
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Postby Saiwania » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:43 pm

I like Conservapedia mostly for it's entertainment value. I used to want to become a Conservapedia administrator or contribute to the website and was initially enthusiastic about it, because I agreed with most of it's worldview. But as I read more of it I realized that much of what it says is silly and it goes way too far in demonizing opponents, as well as being revisionist/extreme in furthering their agenda. I don't think serious/mainstream conservatives take it any seriously. If anything it hurts our cause.
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:15 pm

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