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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:37 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Well, we'd stop humping every country that crosses our path...


How do you know they don't like it?

I don't know if they do or not, but we just can't afford to keep paying child support for all these baby wars we're fathering.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:41 pm

Archnar wrote:I think Obama did Such a terrible job He has lost the votes.I think newt may have a hard time Beating The Other republicans but if he does he will beat obama.-snip-

And I think a real newt would have a better chance of winning the presidency than Gingrich.
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Postby Natty Narwhal » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:02 pm

Nothing will change if people don't start voting for an individual, not a party..
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Postby Arajaka » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:25 pm

I refuse to participate in the humiliating farce that is American electoral politics.
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Postby Arajaka » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:26 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Archnar wrote:I think Obama did Such a terrible job He has lost the votes.I think newt may have a hard time Beating The Other republicans but if he does he will beat obama.-snip-

And I think a real newt would have a better chance of winning the presidency than Gingrich.


I'd vote for a real newt.

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Postby Mintatia » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:40 pm

Definitely Mitt Romney. As long as a Republican gets it, I will be happy!
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Postby Pomplamouse » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:08 am

cause im not aware of any other democrats announcing that they will run except for the President. I guess i would vote for him. Or if Hillary Clinton decides to run again i would vote for her over obama.

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Postby Archnar » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:46 pm

So What Your Told Is Communists Whant To Take Away Your Freedoms.
I Want To Get The Opion of The Right To So Here it Goes.
Well Lets See What Punishments The Commies Have for Me.

Universal Health Care :NO There Going To Save Money and lives Like Canada Has Been Doing For Years!!!!!NOOOO!!!

Cutting Military Spending:NO We Have To Keep Spending Trillions of Dollars Killing 100,000s of Lives even though bin laden is Dead!!!

Ending Subsides For Oil Coal and Gas:No We Need To Keep Spending Billions On Fossil Fuels that are Killing Our Planet!!!!

Ending Loopholes: In Corperate Taxes.No I Want The Corperations To Keep Evading Taxes even though its Putting Us Into Debt and Raising My Taxes.

Raising The Taxes Of The Rich.NOOOOOOOO Dont Tax The Rich, It Will Hurt The Economy Even Though we Taxed Them at 90% in The 50s The Most Prosperus Time In History!!!!

More Regulations For Industry:NOOO I Want 1000s Of Toxic Chemicals In Food Water Products and My Body.I Want Pollution And The Exticion Of Eco Systems.

More Wellfare Spending.NOOOOOO!Its Not My fault They Dont Have Enough Money To Eat.Humbug!!!

Know I see What You Meen. :palm:
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Postby The Left-Libertarian Hippies » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:51 pm

Archnar wrote:So What Your Told Is Communists Whant To Take Away Your Freedoms.
I Want To Get The Opion of The Right To So Here it Goes.
Well Lets See What Punishments The Commies Have for Me.

Universal Health Care :NO There Going To Save Money and lives Like Canada Has Been Doing For Years!!!!!NOOOO!!!

Cutting Military Spending:NO We Have To Keep Spending Trillions of Dollars Killing 100,000s of Lives even though bin laden is Dead!!!

Ending Subsides For Oil Coal and Gas:No We Need To Keep Spending Billions On Fossil Fuels that are Killing Our Planet!!!!

Ending Loopholes: In Corperate Taxes.No I Want The Corperations To Keep Evading Taxes even though its Putting Us Into Debt and Raising My Taxes.

Raising The Taxes Of The Rich.NOOOOOOOO Dont Tax The Rich, It Will Hurt The Economy Even Though we Taxed Them at 90% in The 50s The Most Prosperus Time In History!!!!

More Regulations For Industry:NOOO I Want 1000s Of Toxic Chemicals In Food Water Products and My Body.I Want Pollution And The Exticion Of Eco Systems.

More Wellfare Spending.NOOOOOO!Its Not My fault They Dont Have Enough Money To Eat.Humbug!!!

Know I see What Meen. :palm:


1. Ok, single-payer, but with private incentives and a small co-pay (like Taiwan).
2. Ok, yes...25-35% cut.
3. Yes...cut all subsidies.
4. Corporate taxes should be cut...we have the highest in the world, that is why your taxes are higher and so are your prices :)
5. No to 90%...somewhere around 45% should be fine.
6. Ok, some regulations need cutting to help businesses and industries...we need a carbon tax, and strict limits on emissions.
7. Well, with work incentives...I like the concept of basic income grants...we also need a welfare fraud Dept.
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Postby The Left-Libertarian Hippies » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:58 pm

Archnar wrote:So What Your Told Is Communists Whant To Take Away Your Freedoms.
I Want To Get The Opion of The Right To So Here it Goes.
Well Lets See What Punishments The Commies Have for Me.

Universal Health Care :NO There Going To Save Money and lives Like Canada Has Been Doing For Years!!!!!NOOOO!!!

Cutting Military Spending:NO We Have To Keep Spending Trillions of Dollars Killing 100,000s of Lives even though bin laden is Dead!!!

Ending Subsides For Oil Coal and Gas:No We Need To Keep Spending Billions On Fossil Fuels that are Killing Our Planet!!!!

Ending Loopholes: In Corperate Taxes.No I Want The Corperations To Keep Evading Taxes even though its Putting Us Into Debt and Raising My Taxes.

Raising The Taxes Of The Rich.NOOOOOOOO Dont Tax The Rich, It Will Hurt The Economy Even Though we Taxed Them at 90% in The 50s The Most Prosperus Time In History!!!!

More Regulations For Industry:NOOO I Want 1000s Of Toxic Chemicals In Food Water Products and My Body.I Want Pollution And The Exticion Of Eco Systems.

More Wellfare Spending.NOOOOOO!Its Not My fault They Dont Have Enough Money To Eat.Humbug!!!

Know I see What You Meen. :palm:


And, the Communists have no experience and a sketchy history...Im voting Democrat or Green next election. Possibly Republican for one or two candidates...
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:03 pm

Archnar wrote:So What Your Told Is Communists Whant To Take Away Your Freedoms.
I Want To Get The Opion of The Right To So Here it Goes.
Well Lets See What Punishments The Commies Have for Me.

Universal Health Care :NO There Going To Save Money and lives Like Canada Has Been Doing For Years!!!!!NOOOO!!!

Cutting Military Spending:NO We Have To Keep Spending Trillions of Dollars Killing 100,000s of Lives even though bin laden is Dead!!!

Ending Subsides For Oil Coal and Gas:No We Need To Keep Spending Billions On Fossil Fuels that are Killing Our Planet!!!!

Ending Loopholes: In Corperate Taxes.No I Want The Corperations To Keep Evading Taxes even though its Putting Us Into Debt and Raising My Taxes.

Raising The Taxes Of The Rich.NOOOOOOOO Dont Tax The Rich, It Will Hurt The Economy Even Though we Taxed Them at 90% in The 50s The Most Prosperus Time In History!!!!

More Regulations For Industry:NOOO I Want 1000s Of Toxic Chemicals In Food Water Products and My Body.I Want Pollution And The Exticion Of Eco Systems.

More Wellfare Spending.NOOOOOO!Its Not My fault They Dont Have Enough Money To Eat.Humbug!!!

Know I see What You Meen. :palm:


You're like what 13, 14?

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Postby The Left-Libertarian Hippies » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:05 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Archnar wrote:So What Your Told Is Communists Whant To Take Away Your Freedoms.
I Want To Get The Opion of The Right To So Here it Goes.
Well Lets See What Punishments The Commies Have for Me.

Universal Health Care :NO There Going To Save Money and lives Like Canada Has Been Doing For Years!!!!!NOOOO!!!

Cutting Military Spending:NO We Have To Keep Spending Trillions of Dollars Killing 100,000s of Lives even though bin laden is Dead!!!

Ending Subsides For Oil Coal and Gas:No We Need To Keep Spending Billions On Fossil Fuels that are Killing Our Planet!!!!

Ending Loopholes: In Corperate Taxes.No I Want The Corperations To Keep Evading Taxes even though its Putting Us Into Debt and Raising My Taxes.

Raising The Taxes Of The Rich.NOOOOOOOO Dont Tax The Rich, It Will Hurt The Economy Even Though we Taxed Them at 90% in The 50s The Most Prosperus Time In History!!!!

More Regulations For Industry:NOOO I Want 1000s Of Toxic Chemicals In Food Water Products and My Body.I Want Pollution And The Exticion Of Eco Systems.

More Wellfare Spending.NOOOOOO!Its Not My fault They Dont Have Enough Money To Eat.Humbug!!!

Know I see What You Meen. :palm:


You're like what 13, 14?


I'm actually a teenager...even though I said I could vote earlier :p ...and sadly I wrote better than that.
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Postby Archnar » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:09 pm

The Left-Libertarian Hippies wrote:
Archnar wrote:So What Your Told Is Communists Whant To Take Away Your Freedoms.
I Want To Get The Opion of The Right To So Here it Goes.
Well Lets See What Punishments The Commies Have for Me.

Universal Health Care :NO There Going To Save Money and lives Like Canada Has Been Doing For Years!!!!!NOOOO!!!

Cutting Military Spending:NO We Have To Keep Spending Trillions of Dollars Killing 100,000s of Lives even though bin laden is Dead!!!

Ending Subsides For Oil Coal and Gas:No We Need To Keep Spending Billions On Fossil Fuels that are Killing Our Planet!!!!

Ending Loopholes: In Corperate Taxes.No I Want The Corperations To Keep Evading Taxes even though its Putting Us Into Debt and Raising My Taxes.

Raising The Taxes Of The Rich.NOOOOOOOO Dont Tax The Rich, It Will Hurt The Economy Even Though we Taxed Them at 90% in The 50s The Most Prosperus Time In History!!!!

More Regulations For Industry:NOOO I Want 1000s Of Toxic Chemicals In Food Water Products and My Body.I Want Pollution And The Exticion Of Eco Systems.

More Wellfare Spending.NOOOOOO!Its Not My fault They Dont Have Enough Money To Eat.Humbug!!!

Know I see What Meen. :palm:


1. Ok, single-payer, but with private incentives and a small co-pay (like Taiwan).
2. Ok, yes...25-35% cut.
3. Yes...cut all subsidies.
4. Corporate taxes should be cut...we have the highest in the world, that is why your taxes are higher and so are your prices :)
5. No to 90%...somewhere around 45% should be fine.
6. Ok, some regulations need cutting to help businesses and industries...we need a carbon tax, and strict limits on emissions.
7. Well, with work incentives...I like the concept of basic income grants...we also need a welfare fraud Dept.


Some companies dont pay taxes and they are the destructive ones that should pay the most!
FACT: Exxon-Mobil
Profits: $45 billion in 2009
Federal taxes paid: ZERO

FACT: General Electric
Profits: $10.3 billion in 2009
Federal taxes paid: ZERO
Tax Rebates Received $1.1 billion

Yes 90% of 70%-60% atleast.Remember 50s to 70s it was between 94% to 70%
Whach The Corperation Here is a link.The Fact We dont Socialize it is being Genrous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3m5lq9F ... h_response

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Postby Germany 67 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:09 pm

I am voting for obama, because i am a Democrat.
Ich mag Kuchen

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Postby Archnar » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:10 pm

Germany 67 wrote:I am voting for obama, because i am a Democrat.

He whants to kill the space program.

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Postby The Left-Libertarian Hippies » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:13 pm

Archnar wrote:
The Left-Libertarian Hippies wrote:
1. Ok, single-payer, but with private incentives and a small co-pay (like Taiwan).
2. Ok, yes...25-35% cut.
3. Yes...cut all subsidies.
4. Corporate taxes should be cut...we have the highest in the world, that is why your taxes are higher and so are your prices :)
5. No to 90%...somewhere around 45% should be fine.
6. Ok, some regulations need cutting to help businesses and industries...we need a carbon tax, and strict limits on emissions.
7. Well, with work incentives...I like the concept of basic income grants...we also need a welfare fraud Dept.


Some companies dont pay taxes and they are the destructive ones that should pay the most!
FACT: Exxon-Mobil
Profits: $45 billion in 2009
Federal taxes paid: ZERO

FACT: General Electric
Profits: $10.3 billion in 2009
Federal taxes paid: ZERO
Tax Rebates Received $1.1 billion

Yes 90% of 70%-60% atleast.Remember 50s to 70s it was between 94% to 70%
Whach The Corperation Here is a link.The Fact We dont Socialize it is being Genrous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3m5lq9F ... h_response


Ok...we should tax their pollution, but not their profits...I totally agree that we shouldnt allow the hoarding of money by CEOS, etc, but still corporations whether you like it or not create some jobs (even though most are by small businesses). These corporations are vital to our economy...that doesnt mean we should give them big breaks just because they are being "more environmental"...but still in the long run higher corporate taxes hurt both workers and consumers...and bring our economy down...and part of the reason they dont pay any taxes is because they are scared of our high corporate taxes. And to my knowledge corporate taxes have never been 60-70%...they were in the 50s and 40s rates a long time ago...
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Postby The Left-Libertarian Hippies » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:15 pm

Archnar wrote:
Germany 67 wrote:I am voting for obama, because i am a Democrat.

He whants to kill the space program.

Um...we cant really afford it right now...if you havent noticed...once we get out of recession I believe in restoring full funding.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:16 pm

Archnar wrote:
Germany 67 wrote:I am voting for obama, because i am a Democrat.

He whants to kill the space program.

That isn't the only factor in electing him.

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Postby The Left-Libertarian Hippies » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:19 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Archnar wrote:He whants to kill the space program.

That isn't the only factor in electing him.


Why re-elect him? He's been awful on economic issues.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:21 pm

The Left-Libertarian Hippies wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:That isn't the only factor in electing him.


Why re-elect him? He's been awful on economic issues.

While I agree he could have been better, he was tasked with the shitty job of factoring in the horrible amount of money lost to the Bush Administration. He had a lot to deal with, and we can hardly fault him for the problems started before he took office.

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Postby The Left-Libertarian Hippies » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:22 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
The Left-Libertarian Hippies wrote:
Why re-elect him? He's been awful on economic issues.

While I agree he could have been better, he was tasked with the shitty job of factoring in the horrible amount of money lost to the Bush Administration. He had a lot to deal with, and we can hardly fault him for the problems started before he took office.


No, but his stimulus and his healthcare plan are both epic fails, so...we can blame him for that at least.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:23 pm

Archnar wrote:
The Left-Libertarian Hippies wrote:
1. Ok, single-payer, but with private incentives and a small co-pay (like Taiwan).
2. Ok, yes...25-35% cut.
3. Yes...cut all subsidies.
4. Corporate taxes should be cut...we have the highest in the world, that is why your taxes are higher and so are your prices :)
5. No to 90%...somewhere around 45% should be fine.
6. Ok, some regulations need cutting to help businesses and industries...we need a carbon tax, and strict limits on emissions.
7. Well, with work incentives...I like the concept of basic income grants...we also need a welfare fraud Dept.


Some companies dont pay taxes and they are the destructive ones that should pay the most!
FACT: Exxon-Mobil
Profits: $45 billion in 2009
Federal taxes paid: ZERO

FACT: General Electric
Profits: $10.3 billion in 2009
Federal taxes paid: ZERO
Tax Rebates Received $1.1 billion

Yes 90% of 70%-60% atleast.Remember 50s to 70s it was between 94% to 70%
Whach The Corperation Here is a link.The Fact We dont Socialize it is being Genrous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3m5lq9F ... h_response


I recall when I was younger communists and socialists kept producing a list of "facts," that in America, the richest 10% own 90% of the land, that they held 75% of the wealth, etc. And than I recall reading a thread about the French revolution where somebody said that in pre-revolutionary France, the richest 10% own 90% of the land, that they held 75% of the wealth, etc. And than I read another thread talking about Imperial Russia and somebody posted how the richest 10% own 90% of the land, that they held 7% of the wealth, etc. And you know what I've realized, they are butt-hurt morons.

The only people who seem to espouse communism favorably are those who never lived under it, who have never experienced it, who are young, whose parents are middle class, and who lives have been slightly difficult, but not financially. I say this because when I was 13, I was a socialist and a communist. And you know what, they are both fucking retarded. So stop copying and pasting these "statistics" because while cute, they are getting annoying.

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Postby The Left-Libertarian Hippies » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:26 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Archnar wrote:
Some companies dont pay taxes and they are the destructive ones that should pay the most!
FACT: Exxon-Mobil
Profits: $45 billion in 2009
Federal taxes paid: ZERO

FACT: General Electric
Profits: $10.3 billion in 2009
Federal taxes paid: ZERO
Tax Rebates Received $1.1 billion

Yes 90% of 70%-60% atleast.Remember 50s to 70s it was between 94% to 70%
Whach The Corperation Here is a link.The Fact We dont Socialize it is being Genrous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3m5lq9F ... h_response


I recall when I was younger communists and socialists kept producing a list of "facts," that in America, the richest 10% own 90% of the land, that they held 75% of the wealth, etc. And than I recall reading a thread about the French revolution where somebody said that in pre-revolutionary France, the richest 10% own 90% of the land, that they held 75% of the wealth, etc. And than I read another thread talking about Imperial Russia and somebody posted how the richest 10% own 90% of the land, that they held 7% of the wealth, etc. And you know what I've realized, they are butt-hurt morons.

The only people who seem to espouse communism favorably are those who never lived under it, who have never experienced it, who are young, whose parents are middle class, and who lives have been slightly difficult, but not financially. I say this because when I was 13, I was a socialist and a communist. And you know what, they are both fucking retarded. So stop copying and pasting these "statistics" because while cute, they are getting annoying.


Well, I am a democratic socialist...but you are right...Archnar has never lived under communism, and I doubt he would want to...however democratic...even though facts are important the discussion and make his points easier to prove or disprove whether you think they are "annoying" or not.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:29 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Archnar wrote:He whants to kill the space program.

That isn't the only factor in electing him.


I agree. I hate his views towards NASA, but I also like his foreign policy....

OMG, I've been sigged :D

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Postby The Left-Libertarian Hippies » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:31 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:That isn't the only factor in electing him.


I agree. I hate his views towards NASA, but I also like his foreign policy....

OMG, I've been sigged :D


What? Killing Osama...and NASA is one of the less "necessary" things on our budget right now.
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