Greater Rhodes wrote:and Fuck anarcho-feminism.
How dare someone promote the idea of treating women as individuals and as people.
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by Soviet Haaregrad » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:56 pm
Greater Rhodes wrote:and Fuck anarcho-feminism.
by The Holy Twig » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:07 am
You Scored as Anarcha-Feminist
Anarcha-feminists put a strong emphasis on the importance of patriachy, arguing that all forms of hierachy can be traced back to man's domination over woman. Although associated with the 1960s, the movement has its roots in the theories of Emma Goldman and Voltarine DeCleyre.
Anarcha-Feminist
65%
Anarcho-Communist
55%
Anarcho-Syndicalist
45%
Anarcho-Capitalist
35%
Anarcho-Primitivist
20%
Christian Anarchist
20%
because it's an inherently flawed statement in that hierarchy is one man over another (typically over a woman. No wait, damn, that sounded sexual, let me try again.)all forms of hierachy can be traced back to man's domination over woman.
New Freedomstan wrote:What is a little purging and gulag between friends?
They said I could do anything I wanted to do, so I argue with strangers on the internet.
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by Distruzio » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:11 am
by Sovereign Rulers » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:13 am
New Freedomstan wrote:None. I'm a Marxist-Leninist. I sneer at your punk bands and rampant individualism, before trampling you down with a red jackboot!
Note, this post only halfway seriously.
by Distruzio » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:13 am
The Parkus Empire wrote:Distruzio wrote:
Very interesting... only... how so? I'm not attacking you. I'm curious. Anarcho-feminism is right up there with anarcho-corporatism for me. I don't understand it. I read the wiki articles. I speak to them at local meetings from time to time. I'm on RevLeft and yet... the idea that anarchy, a political reaction to gov't, can be founded upon feminism is foreign to me. Probably b/c I must be unclear about feminism. Likely b/c I reject egalitarianism out of hand so... feminism confuses me.
It comes from the idea that gender roles and sexism are major tools used to instill obedience in both men and women.
by New Freedomstan » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:20 am
by Sovereign Rulers » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:51 am
New Freedomstan wrote:Sovereign Rulers wrote:
Come on, historically we've been such good friends until you started killing us.
What is a little purging and gulags between friends?
Oh, and for a serious bit. Like during the spanish civil war? When Anarchist Catalonia refused to send sufficient troops for the war-effort? Leading to several losses for the Republican side? It wasn't just the communists who wanted the anarchist's blood then, but all of their "allies". The anarchists weren't much of an ally, when they were more concerned with their own agenda than actually fighting in the united front against fascism.
by Greater Rhodes » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:56 pm
by Meryuma » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:20 am
Greater Rhodes wrote:Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
How dare someone promote the idea of treating women as individuals and as people.
In this day and age really what rational person doesn't. The radicalism of anarcho-feminism is unnecessary today and really debilitates the women's movement in my opinion, and saying that the problems of the world boil down to man's historical supremacy over woman is quite ridiculous. And such a statement belittles the actions of those well-known women who have so significantly shaped history. I wouldn't say that 'man's supremacy over woman' stopped people like Empress Theodora, Joan of Arc and Queen Victoria. Or even Margaret Thatcher; as much as I dislike her she was determined and did rise up all the way from a common lawyer to Prime Minister of the UK.
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by Sibirsky » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:29 am
by Pag-Aalisa » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:32 am
by Grammar National Socialists » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:35 am
by Soviet Haaregrad » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:37 am
Pag-Aalisa wrote:I'm the kind of anarchist who spent high school attending Earth First meetings, organized with the new sds, was involved in crowds that threw paintbombs at corporate headquarters, and scuffled with police at the 2008 RNC... But now, I rarely find myself using the label and I'm currently fighting Canadian mining corporations in the third world.
Ideology wise, I went through stages of -syndicalism and -communism, but for the past three years I have subscribed to Participatory Economics, which I feel has completed a modern plausible economic theory(unlike the old doctrines). And looking back on it, I really don't know how I read all those old books when I was 14.
by Grammar National Socialists » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:37 am
Pag-Aalisa wrote:I'm the kind of anarchist who spent high school attending Earth First meetings, organized with the new sds, was involved in crowds that threw paintbombs at corporate headquarters, and scuffled with police at the 2008 RNC... But now, I rarely find myself using the label and I'm currently fighting Canadian mining corporations in the third world.
Ideology wise, I went through stages of -syndicalism and -communism, but for the past three years I have subscribed to Participatory Economics, which I feel has completed a modern plausible economic theory(unlike the old doctrines). And looking back on it, I really don't know how I read all those old books when I was 14.
by Soviet Haaregrad » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:39 am
Grammar National Socialists wrote:Pag-Aalisa wrote:I'm the kind of anarchist who spent high school attending Earth First meetings, organized with the new sds, was involved in crowds that threw paintbombs at corporate headquarters, and scuffled with police at the 2008 RNC... But now, I rarely find myself using the label and I'm currently fighting Canadian mining corporations in the third world.
Ideology wise, I went through stages of -syndicalism and -communism, but for the past three years I have subscribed to Participatory Economics, which I feel has completed a modern plausible economic theory(unlike the old doctrines). And looking back on it, I really don't know how I read all those old books when I was 14.
by Pag-Aalisa » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:54 am
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Pag-Aalisa wrote:I'm the kind of anarchist who spent high school attending Earth First meetings, organized with the new sds, was involved in crowds that threw paintbombs at corporate headquarters, and scuffled with police at the 2008 RNC... But now, I rarely find myself using the label and I'm currently fighting Canadian mining corporations in the third world.
Ideology wise, I went through stages of -syndicalism and -communism, but for the past three years I have subscribed to Participatory Economics, which I feel has completed a modern plausible economic theory(unlike the old doctrines). And looking back on it, I really don't know how I read all those old books when I was 14.
But the real question, before all of that, were you a preteen McCarthyist?
by Soviet Haaregrad » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:58 am
Pag-Aalisa wrote:Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
But the real question, before all of that, were you a preteen McCarthyist?
..Actually, kind of. My dad's the kind of guy that listens to talk radio every chance he gets, and for the time that I didn't know anything else I'm pretty sure I just agreed with all of that. I think what triggered the turn-around of that trend was my love for the internet's sources of information and the first time I listened to Rage Against the Machine.
by Cameroi » Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:58 am
by Jello Biafra » Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:44 am
Greater Rhodes wrote:Soviet Haaregard wrote:How dare someone promote the idea of treating women as individuals and as people.
In this day and age really what rational person doesn't.
by Soviet Haaregrad » Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:05 am
Meryuma wrote:1. In a world where songs saying "Imma put her under", "Down like she's s'posed to be" and "Tonight I'm fucking you" can go platinum, where a women can't fall asleep on a friend's couch knowing she won't be violated in her sleep, where a woman who sleeps around is a "slut" but a man who sleeps around is a "stud", when "having balls" means you're bold and daring but "being a pussy" means you're weak and cowardly, radicalism is necessary. We must go to the root of the problem, the radix if you will, to make real change.
2. Anarcha-feminists *don't* say all oppression is patriarchy. If they were, they wouldn't be anarcha-feminists, now, would they?
3. Real life is messy. Exceptions exist. Besides, Queen Victoria upheld oppressive standards toward women in general.
by Moral Libertarians » Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:21 am
Terra Agora wrote:A state, no matter how small, is not liberty. Taxes are not liberty, government courts are not liberty, government police are not liberty. Anarchy is liberty and anarchy is order.
by Jello Biafra » Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:53 pm
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:I think that was Meryuma who made the argument to back my general statement.Meryuma wrote:1. In a world where songs saying "Imma put her under", "Down like she's s'posed to be" and "Tonight I'm fucking you" can go platinum, where a women can't fall asleep on a friend's couch knowing she won't be violated in her sleep, where a woman who sleeps around is a "slut" but a man who sleeps around is a "stud", when "having balls" means you're bold and daring but "being a pussy" means you're weak and cowardly, radicalism is necessary. We must go to the root of the problem, the radix if you will, to make real change.
2. Anarcha-feminists *don't* say all oppression is patriarchy. If they were, they wouldn't be anarcha-feminists, now, would they?
3. Real life is messy. Exceptions exist. Besides, Queen Victoria upheld oppressive standards toward women in general.
by Threlizdun » Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:59 pm
Pag-Aalisa wrote:I'm the kind of anarchist who spent high school attending Earth First meetings, organized with the new sds, was involved in crowds that threw paintbombs at corporate headquarters, and scuffled with police at the 2008 RNC... But now, I rarely find myself using the label and I'm currently fighting Canadian mining corporations in the third world.
Ideology wise, I went through stages of -syndicalism and -communism, but for the past three years I have subscribed to Participatory Economics, which I feel has completed a modern plausible economic theory(unlike the old doctrines). And looking back on it, I really don't know how I read all those old books when I was 14.
by Mike the Progressive » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:17 pm
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