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What sort of anarchost are you?

1. I'm not.
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55%
2. There should be more subtypes.
8
3%
3. There should be fewer.
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No votes
4. There should be other (please specify).
14
6%
5. Anarcho-Primitavist.
9
4%
6. Anarcho-Syndicalist.
13
6%
7. Anarcho-Feminist.
4
2%
8. Anarcho-Communist.
29
13%
9. Anarcho-Capitalist.
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10. Christian Anarchist.
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Total votes : 229

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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:56 pm

Greater Rhodes wrote:and Fuck anarcho-feminism.


How dare someone promote the idea of treating women as individuals and as people.
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Postby The Holy Twig » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:07 am

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Greater Rhodes wrote:and Fuck anarcho-feminism.


How dare someone promote the idea of treating women as individuals and as people.

obviously they're property. That's why Twig made them, right?


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Anarcha-feminists put a strong emphasis on the importance of patriachy, arguing that all forms of hierachy can be traced back to man's domination over woman. Although associated with the 1960s, the movement has its roots in the theories of Emma Goldman and Voltarine DeCleyre.


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Christian Anarchist
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Funny, I disagreed strongly with
all forms of hierachy can be traced back to man's domination over woman.
because it's an inherently flawed statement in that hierarchy is one man over another (typically over a woman. No wait, damn, that sounded sexual, let me try again.)
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Postby Ferenczia » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:19 am

Yeah, I don't think anarcha-feminists would even say that *all* forms of hierarchy trace back to male domination over women.. just some of them.

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Postby Distruzio » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:11 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
What are your thoughts about anarcho-masculinism?

WTF is that?


I have no idea, I really don't I was hoping the AnFem would know and give me some clues.
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Postby Sovereign Rulers » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:13 am

New Freedomstan wrote:None. I'm a Marxist-Leninist. I sneer at your punk bands and rampant individualism, before trampling you down with a red jackboot!

Note, this post only halfway seriously.


Come on, historically we've been such good friends until you started killing us.
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Postby Distruzio » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:13 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
Very interesting... only... how so? I'm not attacking you. I'm curious. Anarcho-feminism is right up there with anarcho-corporatism for me. I don't understand it. I read the wiki articles. I speak to them at local meetings from time to time. I'm on RevLeft and yet... the idea that anarchy, a political reaction to gov't, can be founded upon feminism is foreign to me. Probably b/c I must be unclear about feminism. Likely b/c I reject egalitarianism out of hand so... feminism confuses me.

It comes from the idea that gender roles and sexism are major tools used to instill obedience in both men and women.


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Postby New Freedomstan » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:20 am

Sovereign Rulers wrote:
New Freedomstan wrote:None. I'm a Marxist-Leninist. I sneer at your punk bands and rampant individualism, before trampling you down with a red jackboot!

Note, this post only halfway seriously.


Come on, historically we've been such good friends until you started killing us.

What is a little purging and gulags between friends?


Oh, and for a serious bit. Like during the spanish civil war? When Anarchist Catalonia refused to send sufficient troops for the war-effort? Leading to several losses for the Republican side? It wasn't just the communists who wanted the anarchist's blood then, but all of their "allies". The anarchists weren't much of an ally, when they were more concerned with their own agenda than actually fighting in the united front against fascism.

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Postby Sovereign Rulers » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:51 am

New Freedomstan wrote:
Sovereign Rulers wrote:
Come on, historically we've been such good friends until you started killing us.

What is a little purging and gulags between friends?


Oh, and for a serious bit. Like during the spanish civil war? When Anarchist Catalonia refused to send sufficient troops for the war-effort? Leading to several losses for the Republican side? It wasn't just the communists who wanted the anarchist's blood then, but all of their "allies". The anarchists weren't much of an ally, when they were more concerned with their own agenda than actually fighting in the united front against fascism.


I can't really comment on that since I haven't read up on all the events revolving the Spanish Civil War. But eh, shit happens right?
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Postby Greater Rhodes » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:56 pm

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Greater Rhodes wrote:and Fuck anarcho-feminism.


How dare someone promote the idea of treating women as individuals and as people.

In this day and age really what rational person doesn't. The radicalism of anarcho-feminism is unnecessary today and really debilitates the women's movement in my opinion, and saying that the problems of the world boil down to man's historical supremacy over woman is quite ridiculous. And such a statement belittles the actions of those well-known women who have so significantly shaped history. I wouldn't say that 'man's supremacy over woman' stopped people like Empress Theodora, Joan of Arc and Queen Victoria. Or even Margaret Thatcher; as much as I dislike her she was determined and did rise up all the way from a common lawyer to Prime Minister of the UK.
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Postby Meryuma » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:20 am

Greater Rhodes wrote:
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
How dare someone promote the idea of treating women as individuals and as people.

In this day and age really what rational person doesn't. The radicalism of anarcho-feminism is unnecessary today and really debilitates the women's movement in my opinion, and saying that the problems of the world boil down to man's historical supremacy over woman is quite ridiculous. And such a statement belittles the actions of those well-known women who have so significantly shaped history. I wouldn't say that 'man's supremacy over woman' stopped people like Empress Theodora, Joan of Arc and Queen Victoria. Or even Margaret Thatcher; as much as I dislike her she was determined and did rise up all the way from a common lawyer to Prime Minister of the UK.


1. In a world where songs saying "Imma put her under", "Down like she's s'posed to be" and "Tonight I'm fucking you" can go platinum, where a women can't fall asleep on a friend's couch knowing she won't be violated in her sleep, where a woman who sleeps around is a "slut" but a man who sleeps around is a "stud", when "having balls" means you're bold and daring but "being a pussy" means you're weak and cowardly, radicalism is necessary. We must go to the root of the problem, the radix if you will, to make real change.
2. Anarcha-feminists *don't* say all oppression is patriarchy. If they were, they wouldn't be anarcha-feminists, now, would they?
3. Real life is messy. Exceptions exist. Besides, Queen Victoria upheld oppressive standards toward women in general.

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You Scored as Anarcho-Capitalist
Anarcho-capitalism is perhaps more closely linked the libertarian tradition than anarchism as it favours a free market and a stateless society. Private businesses would replace the functions of the state. This form of anarchism is largely an American phenomenon and first emerged in the 1950s (although it arguably has its roots in 19th century individualist anarchism and classical liberalism). Key thinkers include Murray Rothbard.


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Postby Pag-Aalisa » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:32 am

I'm the kind of anarchist who spent high school attending Earth First meetings, organized with the new sds, was involved in crowds that threw paintbombs at corporate headquarters, and scuffled with police at the 2008 RNC... But now, I rarely find myself using the label and I'm currently fighting Canadian mining corporations in the third world.

Ideology wise, I went through stages of -syndicalism and -communism, but for the past three years I have subscribed to Participatory Economics, which I feel has completed a modern plausible economic theory(unlike the old doctrines). And looking back on it, I really don't know how I read all those old books when I was 14.

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Postby Grammar National Socialists » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:35 am

The kind that promotes the use of propar grammar in non-verbal situations.

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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:37 am

Pag-Aalisa wrote:I'm the kind of anarchist who spent high school attending Earth First meetings, organized with the new sds, was involved in crowds that threw paintbombs at corporate headquarters, and scuffled with police at the 2008 RNC... But now, I rarely find myself using the label and I'm currently fighting Canadian mining corporations in the third world.

Ideology wise, I went through stages of -syndicalism and -communism, but for the past three years I have subscribed to Participatory Economics, which I feel has completed a modern plausible economic theory(unlike the old doctrines). And looking back on it, I really don't know how I read all those old books when I was 14.


But the real question, before all of that, were you a preteen McCarthyist?
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Postby Grammar National Socialists » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:37 am

Pag-Aalisa wrote:I'm the kind of anarchist who spent high school attending Earth First meetings, organized with the new sds, was involved in crowds that threw paintbombs at corporate headquarters, and scuffled with police at the 2008 RNC... But now, I rarely find myself using the label and I'm currently fighting Canadian mining corporations in the third world.

Ideology wise, I went through stages of -syndicalism and -communism, but for the past three years I have subscribed to Participatory Economics, which I feel has completed a modern plausible economic theory(unlike the old doctrines). And looking back on it, I really don't know how I read all those old books when I was 14.


:mad:

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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:39 am

Grammar National Socialists wrote:
Pag-Aalisa wrote:I'm the kind of anarchist who spent high school attending Earth First meetings, organized with the new sds, was involved in crowds that threw paintbombs at corporate headquarters, and scuffled with police at the 2008 RNC... But now, I rarely find myself using the label and I'm currently fighting Canadian mining corporations in the third world.

Ideology wise, I went through stages of -syndicalism and -communism, but for the past three years I have subscribed to Participatory Economics, which I feel has completed a modern plausible economic theory(unlike the old doctrines). And looking back on it, I really don't know how I read all those old books when I was 14.


:mad:


U mad?
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Postby Pag-Aalisa » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:54 am

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
Pag-Aalisa wrote:I'm the kind of anarchist who spent high school attending Earth First meetings, organized with the new sds, was involved in crowds that threw paintbombs at corporate headquarters, and scuffled with police at the 2008 RNC... But now, I rarely find myself using the label and I'm currently fighting Canadian mining corporations in the third world.

Ideology wise, I went through stages of -syndicalism and -communism, but for the past three years I have subscribed to Participatory Economics, which I feel has completed a modern plausible economic theory(unlike the old doctrines). And looking back on it, I really don't know how I read all those old books when I was 14.


But the real question, before all of that, were you a preteen McCarthyist?



..Actually, kind of. My dad's the kind of guy that listens to talk radio every chance he gets, and for the time that I didn't know anything else I'm pretty sure I just agreed with all of that. I think what triggered the turn-around of that trend was my love for the internet's sources of information and the first time I listened to Rage Against the Machine.

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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:58 am

Pag-Aalisa wrote:
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:
But the real question, before all of that, were you a preteen McCarthyist?



..Actually, kind of. My dad's the kind of guy that listens to talk radio every chance he gets, and for the time that I didn't know anything else I'm pretty sure I just agreed with all of that. I think what triggered the turn-around of that trend was my love for the internet's sources of information and the first time I listened to Rage Against the Machine.


It was mostly just a teasing reference to the band Propagandhi, because they're where I was first introduced to parecon. Although, I've noticed a trend of left/libertarians who were right/authoritarians when young.
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Postby Cameroi » Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:58 am

the kind that passively avoids supporting the dominance of aggressiveness while at the same time equally not supporting destructiveness, or the use of opposition to excessive hierarchy as an excuse for that either.

the kind that isn't what anarchists are accused of by the ignorant, but believes in limiting the sphere of influence of hierarchy to its sphere of usefulness. unlike those who oppose hierarchy being useful at all.

(specify other: eco-socialist anarcho-pacifist. socialism is NOT marxism. not that marx lacked for legitimate motivation. he just didn't find real adiquite solutions to them. which ARE out there. most likely in dropping the whole idea of ideology all together.)
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Postby Jello Biafra » Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:44 am

Greater Rhodes wrote:
Soviet Haaregard wrote:How dare someone promote the idea of treating women as individuals and as people.

In this day and age really what rational person doesn't.

I significant number of people don't. Perhaps they're not rational, but nonetheless, they do not. For more, see Soviet Haaregard's earlier post.
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Jello Biafra wrote:
Greater Rhodes wrote:How dare someone promote the idea of treating women as individuals and as people.

In this day and age really what rational person doesn't.

I significant number of people don't. Perhaps they're not rational, but nonetheless, they do not. For more, see Soviet Haaregard's earlier post.[/quote]

I think that was Meryuma who made the argument to back my general statement.

Meryuma wrote:1. In a world where songs saying "Imma put her under", "Down like she's s'posed to be" and "Tonight I'm fucking you" can go platinum, where a women can't fall asleep on a friend's couch knowing she won't be violated in her sleep, where a woman who sleeps around is a "slut" but a man who sleeps around is a "stud", when "having balls" means you're bold and daring but "being a pussy" means you're weak and cowardly, radicalism is necessary. We must go to the root of the problem, the radix if you will, to make real change.
2. Anarcha-feminists *don't* say all oppression is patriarchy. If they were, they wouldn't be anarcha-feminists, now, would they?
3. Real life is messy. Exceptions exist. Besides, Queen Victoria upheld oppressive standards toward women in general.
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Postby Moral Libertarians » Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:21 am

Anarcho-Capitalist 100%
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Anarcho-Communist 25%
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Hmm... Not sure how communism, syndicalism and the others slipped into my rankings...
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Postby Jello Biafra » Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:53 pm

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:I think that was Meryuma who made the argument to back my general statement.

Meryuma wrote:1. In a world where songs saying "Imma put her under", "Down like she's s'posed to be" and "Tonight I'm fucking you" can go platinum, where a women can't fall asleep on a friend's couch knowing she won't be violated in her sleep, where a woman who sleeps around is a "slut" but a man who sleeps around is a "stud", when "having balls" means you're bold and daring but "being a pussy" means you're weak and cowardly, radicalism is necessary. We must go to the root of the problem, the radix if you will, to make real change.
2. Anarcha-feminists *don't* say all oppression is patriarchy. If they were, they wouldn't be anarcha-feminists, now, would they?
3. Real life is messy. Exceptions exist. Besides, Queen Victoria upheld oppressive standards toward women in general.

You're right. And not only that, but I screwed up the coding on my post.

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Postby Threlizdun » Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:59 pm

Pag-Aalisa wrote:I'm the kind of anarchist who spent high school attending Earth First meetings, organized with the new sds, was involved in crowds that threw paintbombs at corporate headquarters, and scuffled with police at the 2008 RNC... But now, I rarely find myself using the label and I'm currently fighting Canadian mining corporations in the third world.

Ideology wise, I went through stages of -syndicalism and -communism, but for the past three years I have subscribed to Participatory Economics, which I feel has completed a modern plausible economic theory(unlike the old doctrines). And looking back on it, I really don't know how I read all those old books when I was 14.

Syndicalism, communism, and participatory economics are not necessarily opposed doctrines. I actually adhere quite strongly to the three.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:17 pm

The non-anarchist kind.

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