What sort of anarchist are you?

[Arajaka]

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Anarchism is therefore more than anti-statism . . . [even if] government (the state) . . . is, appropriately, the central focus of anarchist critique. This quote specifically mentions that anarchism is more than anti-statism. What is there to define? Anti-hierarchy, opposing hierarchy¹.

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1.There is one of the problems with anarchy: humans are naturally hierarchical.

Not really. The vast majority of human history (200,000 years or more, depending on your definition of "human") has been without coercion and hierarchy:

For most of human history, people have lived in stateless societies, characterized by a lack of concentrated authority, and the absence of large inequalities in economic and political power.

See also: Jared Diamond's Pulitzer winning Guns Germs & Steel, especially the chapter entitled "From Eagalitarianism to Kleptocracy".

See also: Anthro 101 at any accredited institution

The state is only about 6,000 years old. That's a very short blip in the total amount of time human beings have existed.

[Aeronos]

You Scored as Anarcho-Capitalist

Anarcho-Capitalist 95%
Anarcho-Syndicalist 65%
Anarcho-Communist 50%
Anarcha-Feminist 45%
Anarcho-Primitivist 15%
Christian Anarchist 15%

Tell me something I didn't know... I mean, I'm not an anarcho-capitalist.... but yeah, close to it

[Volnotova]

National-Anarchocorporatist

One Nation, One Path, One Ideology.

*Gives a Roman Salute*

[Threlizdun]

National-Anarchocorporatist

One Nation, One Path, One Ideology.

*Gives a Roman Salute*

I've heard multiple examples of national anarchism and anarcho-corporatism, though what are your beliefs on the matter?

[Seperates]

Not really an anarchist, though I'm pretty far south of the border on the political compass... I'm not a big fan of "the system" but recogize that, in anarchy, only those with power are free. The only "Anarchy" that I approve of is the "logical" or "scientific anarchy", which is basically structured to look like today's acedemia (well, not the colleges, but the scientific community itself).

Not that there is any hope of that ever becoming a reality...

[Jello Biafra]

but recogize that, in anarchy, only those with power are free.

So structure society in such a way that everybody within it has power.

[Natty Narwhal]

Ecoanarchist.

[Ferkas]

The pro-government type.

[Seigleterre]

You Scored as Anarcho-Syndicalist

Anarcho-Syndicalism is the anarchist wing of the labour movement. Syndicalists believe in workers' solidarity, self-management and direct action. This movement is most commonly associated with France and key thinkers include Rudolf Rocker.


Anarcho-Syndicalist 65%
Anarcho-Communist 45%
Anarcho-Capitalist 45%
Christian Anarchist 35%
Anarcha-Feminist 35%
Anarcho-Primitivist 30%

Not at all surprising, as I am a Democratic Socialist.

[Ferenczia]

Huh. I'm apparently the sole Anarcho-Feminist. I feel kind of alone.

[Nova Nacio]

I support any form of anarchy that involves overthrowing corrupt gov't. of any kind, when deserved and required to get a struggling nation back on its feet.

[New Freedomstan]

None. I'm a Marxist-Leninist. I sneer at your punk bands and rampant individualism, before trampling you down with a red jackboot!

Note, this post only halfway seriously.

[Distruzio]

Huh. I'm apparently the sole Anarcho-Feminist. I feel kind of alone.

What are your thoughts about anarcho-masculinism?

[Ferenczia]

Huh. I'm apparently the sole Anarcho-Feminist. I feel kind of alone.

What are your thoughts about anarcho-masculinism?

.. that every other type of anarchism probably qualifies as 'anarcho-masculinism'?

[Free Soviets]

i'm a card-carrying anarchist that hates anarchists.

mainly i'm just a pragmatic heterodox libertarian socialist who thinks markets can be useful.

I know the feeling...

there are only so many inflated scrotums you can see before calling it a day, joining a real union, and actively campaigning for the goddamn bootlicking democrats.

[Distruzio]

What are your thoughts about anarcho-masculinism?

.. that every other type of anarchism probably qualifies as 'anarcho-masculinism'?

Very interesting... only... how so? I'm not attacking you. I'm curious. Anarcho-feminism is right up there with anarcho-corporatism for me. I don't understand it. I read the wiki articles. I speak to them at local meetings from time to time. I'm on RevLeft and yet... the idea that anarchy, a political reaction to gov't, can be founded upon feminism is foreign to me. Probably b/c I must be unclear about feminism. Likely b/c I reject egalitarianism out of hand so... feminism confuses me.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Huh. I'm apparently the sole Anarcha-Feminist. I feel kind of alone.

Fixed. I only saw my main result, but that was likely my second or third. I'm definately a feminist.

[Satanistan Islands]

I'm not really an anarchist. I think that if an anarchy were to arise, bands of unruly thugs would would take the form of law and order.. Well, order anyway. Women would quickly become marginalized. In that case, I'd fall in the category of anarcho-feminist.

[Conserative Morality]

.. that every other type of anarchism probably qualifies as 'anarcho-masculinism'?

How so?

[Ferenczia]

Very interesting... only... how so? I'm not attacking you. I'm curious. Anarcho-feminism is right up there with anarcho-corporatism for me. I don't understand it. I read the wiki articles. I speak to them at local meetings from time to time. I'm on RevLeft and yet... the idea that anarchy, a political reaction to gov't, can be founded upon feminism is foreign to me. Probably b/c I must be unclear about feminism. Likely b/c I reject egalitarianism out of hand so... feminism confuses me.

Well, I'm not saying I am the definitive source on the philosophy, but this is how I understand it.

First, the history of the movement is pretty important. When anarcho-feminism (or anarcha-feminism, I guess, I thought they were both okay) was founded, this was long before women were going to college in any significant numbers or getting jobs doing anything of import.. they were basically extensions of their husbands. The husband was master of the house.. he made all of the financial decisions, he was in charge, his wife was at his mercy. Even if the man decided he was going to be a "good" husband, she was still at his whim.. she couldn't make her own money or own her own property; she was just a slave in a gilded cage.

On the other hand, what is government really? It's the head of the state, the people who make the rules. Even if the state tries to be a "good" state, the people are still at its whim. The state purports to be "in charge" of the people.. the husband purported to be "in charge" of his wife.. it's not a hard connection to make. For anarcha-feminists, just empowering the workers wasn't enough, because all of the workers were men. They'd still go home at night and be the tyrants of their wives. Just as the man was the patriarch of the home, so the state was the patriarch of the society. Breaking one of those bonds was in the service of breaking the other.

A more interesting question is, 'Is the philosophy still relevant today'? After all, women go to college in greater numbers than men now, don't they? And they can get jobs doing whatever men can now, can't they? And legislation exists that makes it illegal to discriminate based on sex now, doesn't it? So feminism must be obsolete now, mustn't it? Where do those whiny women get off thinking that everything isn't just.. okay, now?

For modern feminists, and anarcha-feminists, the problem isn't the laws, or the so-called opportunities.. it's a subtle way of thinking that still pervades society. When a woman wears pants or acts tough, she's getting an "upgrade".. but if a man wears a dress, or lipstick, or does anything "girly" or "weak," it's degrading, he's laughed at, he gets beaten up. Why? Because being a woman is degrading. If a woman wears a short skirt, she's "asking" to get raped. Ever looked at a fashion magazine or a tabloid? "Best and worst beach bodies"? Women's bodies are treated like a public commodity, men (and women!) feel completely justified in judging them based on their looks. A woman can be smart, or talented, but she must above all be attractive--everything depends upon it, her success, the perception of her, everything. I'm not saying that this only hurts women--it hurts men too, because they have to feel like they can't be emotional, and they have to fit a certain 'masculine' mold, but from a power perspective, the men always come out on top. It's a system that leaves men feeling entitled.

I could go on and on, but the point is this: other forms of anarchism do not address this fundamental disparity between men and women. That's why I'd call them "anarcho-masculine". Get rid of the state, but that dynamic, that way of thinking, will still remain. It's socialized into us. Without consciously changing that programing, it will always be socialized into us. And without changing it, all people can never be considered 'equal'.

[Ferenczia]

Also, may I recommend this book? Because it seriously changed my life.
http://librivox.org/anarchism-and-other ... a-goldman/

[The Parkus Empire]

Huh. I'm apparently the sole Anarcho-Feminist. I feel kind of alone.

What are your thoughts about anarcho-masculinism?

WTF is that?

[Greater Cabinda]

What are your thoughts about anarcho-masculinism?

WTF is that?

Anarchism with too many penises?

[The Parkus Empire]

.. that every other type of anarchism probably qualifies as 'anarcho-masculinism'?

Very interesting... only... how so? I'm not attacking you. I'm curious. Anarcho-feminism is right up there with anarcho-corporatism for me. I don't understand it. I read the wiki articles. I speak to them at local meetings from time to time. I'm on RevLeft and yet... the idea that anarchy, a political reaction to gov't, can be founded upon feminism is foreign to me. Probably b/c I must be unclear about feminism. Likely b/c I reject egalitarianism out of hand so... feminism confuses me.

It comes from the idea that gender roles and sexism are major tools used to instill obedience in both men and women.

[Greater Rhodes]

Apparently I am an Anarcho-Capitalist, hilarious.

Anarcho-Capitalist 60%
Anarcho-Syndicalist 55%
Anarcho-Communist 50%
Anarcho-Primitivist 25%

and Fuck anarcho-feminism.