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Strength of your atheism?

Anti-theism
41
14%
Strong Atheism
83
29%
Weak Atheism
49
17%
Self-Proclaimed Agnostic
20
7%
Deist
15
5%
Theist
80
28%
 
Total votes : 288

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Postby Ferrond » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:22 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:
Norstal wrote:Actually I did, but you don't seem to accept it, even though you yourself yielded to my argument.

no, you didn't. Even with your apparent omniscience(which you would need to have in order to disprove God, while a bunch of Hebrews proved it to themselves in ~4000 BC), you did not prove to me that God does not exist. May you burn in the lake of burning sulfur when Jesus comes again.


A bunch of ignorant, smelly, primitive, goat herders only proved they can con both themselves and the rest of the world.

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Postby Norstal » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:23 pm

Unhealthy2 wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:I'll come back to you a year from now, and that's only if I become magically good at math(Never have been).


You're not the one trying to lecture a college graduate with a dual degree in physics and mathematics by using high school math.

One of these days, I'll make you slip up on simple things like 40+20*0+1=?

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Postby Mosasauria » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:23 pm

Unhealthy2 wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:I'll come back to you a year from now, and that's only if I become magically good at math(Never have been).


You're not the one trying to lecture a college graduate with a dual degree in physics and mathematics by using high school math.

Which I barely understand regardless...
I've only been good at geometry(Big shocker there)...
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Postby Unhealthy2 » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:23 pm

Izandai wrote:No, in binary 1+1=10. I speak of the infinite.


I was not referring to binary representation, I was referring to the field of binaries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boolean_algebra
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Postby Mosasauria » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:24 pm

Norstal wrote:
Unhealthy2 wrote:
You're not the one trying to lecture a college graduate with a dual degree in physics and mathematics by using high school math.

One of these days, I'll make you slip up on simple things like 40+20*0+1=?

:twisted:

Tell me what that asterisk means and maybe I might even be able to solve it.
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Postby Norstal » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:24 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:
Norstal wrote:Actually I did, but you don't seem to accept it, even though you yourself yielded to my argument.

no, you didn't. Even with your apparent omniscience(which you would need to have in order to disprove God, while a bunch of Hebrews proved it to themselves in ~4000 BC),

Occam's Razor.

you did not prove to me that God does not exist. May you burn in the lake of burning sulfur when Jesus comes again.

Ironic, but I did proved to you it wasn't god who made the universe, which means god doesn't do anything and hence, god doesn't exist.
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Postby Mosasauria » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:25 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:
Norstal wrote:Actually I did, but you don't seem to accept it, even though you yourself yielded to my argument.

no, you didn't. Even with your apparent omniscience(which you would need to have in order to disprove God, while a bunch of Hebrews proved it to themselves in ~4000 BC), you did not prove to me that God does not exist. May you burn in the lake of burning sulfur when Jesus comes again.

I thought Jesus taught his followers to be loving and tolerant?
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Postby Norstal » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:25 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
Norstal wrote:One of these days, I'll make you slip up on simple things like 40+20*0+1=?

:twisted:

Tell me what that asterisk means and maybe I might even be able to solve it.

Multiplication.
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Postby Mosasauria » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:25 pm

Norstal wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:Tell me what that asterisk means and maybe I might even be able to solve it.

Multiplication.

So the equation just equals 41?
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Postby Niene » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:25 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
Norstal wrote:One of these days, I'll make you slip up on simple things like 40+20*0+1=?

:twisted:

Tell me what that asterisk means and maybe I might even be able to solve it.


Multiplied by.
Izandai wrote:Ah, but 1+1=1.

Unhealthy2 wrote:Nonetheless, everyone knows that the real truth is that 1 + 1 = 69.

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Postby Norstal » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:25 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:no, you didn't. Even with your apparent omniscience(which you would need to have in order to disprove God, while a bunch of Hebrews proved it to themselves in ~4000 BC), you did not prove to me that God does not exist. May you burn in the lake of burning sulfur when Jesus comes again.

I thought Jesus taught his followers to be loving and tolerant?

He already lied. Might as well sin even more amirite.
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Postby Niene » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:26 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
Norstal wrote:Multiplication.

So the equation just equals 41?

I got that answer too.
Izandai wrote:Ah, but 1+1=1.

Unhealthy2 wrote:Nonetheless, everyone knows that the real truth is that 1 + 1 = 69.

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Postby Drachmar » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:26 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Izandai wrote:All right, so in the technicalities there are no agnostics. But there's still a difference between not believing in god and believing he may or may not exist, and that it can't be proven.


Yes, and that difference has always historically been strong and weak atheism.
using agnosticism in place of weak atheism as a label has emerged from the fear of being persecuted, or the individuals being unwilling to label themselves atheists due to stigma.
Its cowardice, plain and simple.

No, it's not cowardice. Who are you to judge whether or not someone's belief structure is valid? It works for the individual. Judge lest ye not be judged. Give me a break. While I personally may not agree with an agnostic (whether or not God exists), that is their decision. I honestly can find validity in either argument (theist, or atheist).
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Postby Ferrond » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:26 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:no, you didn't. Even with your apparent omniscience(which you would need to have in order to disprove God, while a bunch of Hebrews proved it to themselves in ~4000 BC), you did not prove to me that God does not exist. May you burn in the lake of burning sulfur when Jesus comes again.

I thought Jesus taught his followers to be loving and tolerant?


Among other contradictory things, I'd love to nail his ass on the cross myself. :twisted:

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Postby Norstal » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:26 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
Norstal wrote:Multiplication.

So the equation just equals 41?

You just outsmarted about 1 million people who got the answer wrong. So congrats. But don't tell UH that! :P
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Postby Unhealthy2 » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:27 pm

Mosasauria wrote:Which I barely understand regardless...
I've only been good at geometry(Big shocker there)...


It's not to sound cocky, but I do know my stuff when it comes to mathematics, physics, and certain, restricted areas of philosophy, and it annoys me to be talked down to by someone who knows less about my field than I do.

You want to "school" me on biology, or organic chemistry, or history, or literary analysis? Go right ahead. You want to school me on mathematics? No, not unless you really know your shit.
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Postby Izandai » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:28 pm

Unhealthy2 wrote:
Izandai wrote:No, in binary 1+1=10. I speak of the infinite.


I was not referring to binary representation, I was referring to the field of binaries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boolean_algebra

Oh. Well I haven't learned that. But anyways I was thinking of something different.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:28 pm

Drachmar wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Yes, and that difference has always historically been strong and weak atheism.
using agnosticism in place of weak atheism as a label has emerged from the fear of being persecuted, or the individuals being unwilling to label themselves atheists due to stigma.
Its cowardice, plain and simple.

No, it's not cowardice. Who are you to judge whether or not someone's belief structure is valid? It works for the individual. Judge lest ye not be judged. Give me a break. While I personally may not agree with an agnostic (whether or not God exists), that is their decision. I honestly can find validity in either argument (theist, or atheist).


I'm not saying the belief is cowardice.
I'm saying them calling their belief agnostic is.
If you'd bothered to read my post you would realize that.
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Postby Mosasauria » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:28 pm

Norstal wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:I thought Jesus taught his followers to be loving and tolerant?

He already lied. Might as well sin even more amirite.

It's odd. I'm an atheist(Not an anti-theist mind you), and I'm a much more tolerant and loving person than many so-called Christians are. I don't tell people to rot in a fiery hole of sin, I tell them to leave me alone and walk away.
So I also "Turn the other cheek".
Funny, I'm more Christian than many Christians. :lol2:
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Postby Mosasauria » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:29 pm

Unhealthy2 wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:Which I barely understand regardless...
I've only been good at geometry(Big shocker there)...


It's not to sound cocky, but I do know my stuff when it comes to mathematics, physics, and certain, restricted areas of philosophy, and it annoys me to be talked down to by someone who knows less about my field than I do.

You want to "school" me on biology, or organic chemistry, or history, or literary analysis? Go right ahead. You want to school me on mathematics? No, not unless you really know your shit.

Now those are some of my specialties. :lol:
But I do understand where you're coming from.
I remembered how pissed I got when a person tried to lecture everyone at my school(Falsely) about why there was a mass stranding of Man-O-Wars.
Predictably, it involved god.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:29 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
Norstal wrote:He already lied. Might as well sin even more amirite.

It's odd. I'm an atheist(Not an anti-theist mind you), and I'm a much more tolerant and loving person than many so-called Christians are. I don't tell people to rot in a fiery hole of sin, I tell them to leave me alone and walk away.
So I also "Turn the other cheek".
Funny, I'm more Christian than many Christians. :lol2:


You mean Paulists.
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Give up all your possessions, worry not for the morrow, and go stand in the desert with jesus.
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Postby Unhealthy2 » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:29 pm

Izandai wrote:Oh. Well I haven't learned that. But anyways I was thinking of something different.


Nonetheless, everyone knows that the real truth is that 1 + 1 = 69. ;)
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Postby Niene » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:29 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
Norstal wrote:He already lied. Might as well sin even more amirite.

It's odd. I'm an atheist(Not an anti-theist mind you), and I'm a much more tolerant and loving person than many so-called Christians are. I don't tell people to rot in a fiery hole of sin, I tell them to leave me alone and walk away.
So I also "Turn the other cheek".
Funny, I'm more Christian than many Christians. :lol2:

Nobody said being a 'Christian' in name made you a nice person. If only.
Izandai wrote:Ah, but 1+1=1.

Unhealthy2 wrote:Nonetheless, everyone knows that the real truth is that 1 + 1 = 69.

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Postby Niene » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:31 pm

Unhealthy2 wrote:Nonetheless, everyone knows that the real truth is that 1 + 1 = 69.


I'm sigging that too.
More funny statements, people!
Izandai wrote:Ah, but 1+1=1.

Unhealthy2 wrote:Nonetheless, everyone knows that the real truth is that 1 + 1 = 69.

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