second most powerful country

[Airstrip 100]

Even if you completely obliterate every city with 100km of the coast, you still won't win the war against China. Others have tried.

Come now, no one has ever obliterated the vast majority of a country's population and lost before. They'd be insane not to surrender.

Second Sino-Japanese war.

They didn't obliterate the majority, but a significant portion of the country's population.

Japan had much the same advantages that the US has. Control of the seas, of the air, technological superiority in ground weapons. Despite that, they could never really defeat China once they left the safety of the coastal areas.

[Lackadaisical2]

Come now, no one has ever obliterated the vast majority of a country's population and lost before. They'd be insane not to surrender.

Second Sino-Japanese war.

They didn't obliterate the majority, but a significant portion of the country's population.

Yeah, and thats definitely really, really different. There was still capacity to fight back, if you've lost not just the territory of everything 100km from the shore but everyone living there you're fucked. They lost around 20 million people in that war(Not so bad considering the population), and I don't doubt they'd be capable of doing something similar again, but killing every soul 100 km from the shore has got to be more like 600 million people. Its a whole different order of magnitude of badassery to keep fighting then.

(Also, Japan never controlled all the coast)

Japan had much the same advantages that the US has. Control of the seas, of the air, technological superiority in ground weapons. Despite that, they could never really defeat China once they left the safety of the coastal areas.

Which is fine, I don't think we could conquer them either, but they'd definitely surrender if we actually did what you say.

[Airstrip 100]

Second Sino-Japanese war.

They didn't obliterate the majority, but a significant portion of the country's population.

Yeah, and thats definitely really, really different. There was still capacity to fight back, if you've lost not just the territory of everything 100km from the shore but everyone living there you're fucked. They lost around 20 million people in that war(Not so bad considering the population), and I don't doubt they'd be capable of doing something similar again, but killing every soul 100 km from the shore has got to be more like 600 million people. Its a whole different order of magnitude of badassery to keep fighting then.

(Also, Japan never controlled all the coast)

Japan had much the same advantages that the US has. Control of the seas, of the air, technological superiority in ground weapons. Despite that, they could never really defeat China once they left the safety of the coastal areas.

Which is fine, I don't think we could conquer them either, but they'd definitely surrender if we actually did what you say.

They would surrender, officially. But it would be impossible to pacify the population, or set up a new, stable government.

[Lackadaisical2]

Yeah, and thats definitely really, really different. There was still capacity to fight back, if you've lost not just the territory of everything 100km from the shore but everyone living there you're fucked. They lost around 20 million people in that war(Not so bad considering the population), and I don't doubt they'd be capable of doing something similar again, but killing every soul 100 km from the shore has got to be more like 600 million people. Its a whole different order of magnitude of badassery to keep fighting then.

(Also, Japan never controlled all the coast)

Which is fine, I don't think we could conquer them either, but they'd definitely surrender if we actually did what you say.

They would surrender, officially. But it would be impossible to pacify the population, or set up a new, stable government.

Then we are in accord.

[Minnysota]

Yes, China's population would be devastated by a constant bombing of the coast and 100km inwards. However, don't overlook the economic damage that would do to them. Our economy would suffer; however, we would still have industries that are in tact, unlike China who just lost its biggest cities population-wise and industrial-wise.

Also, the Dong missile is really not something that is a smart idea. You know what the US will think when a ballistic missile is being launched from China? Yeah, I don't think they will be expecting some big ole' Chinese Dongs.

[Caninope]

Next should be Russia. It has way way more of a regional impact then the UK. Its actions easily affect all of Eastern Europe and much of Asia. It also has a huge army and is not afraid of the US.

The US and the UK also share a very strong regional impact within Eastern Europe, with NATO and all that. Nor do Russia's actions easily affect "much of Asia"- only a few decisions do/would, and most of decisions would be involved with a pretty aggressive foreign policy.

Nor are they scared of the US, but like all non-friendly states, they are wary. If not for the reason that we are wary of them.

[IndependentCanada]

Canada is be the second most powerful country in the world because:

1. Well trained military (numbers don't mean everything you know.)
2. Very good economy
3. Very few of are PM's were bad leaders
4. were just really cool

ALL HAIL CANADA!!!!!

[Valdanis]

Being number ones bitch kind of makes you number two automatically. Just like in prison.

So why isn't the Republic of Ireland #3?

[Caninope]

Being number ones bitch kind of makes you number two automatically. Just like in prison.

So why isn't the Republic of Ireland #3?

Because they don't do what we want them too?

[Fionnuala_Saoirse]

So why isn't the Republic of Ireland #3?

Because they don't do what we want them too?

Aye Irish folks tend to be the ones who manipulate Americans rather than the other way around

[Mike the Progressive]

Canada is be the second most powerful country in the world because:

1. Well trained military (numbers don't mean everything you know.)
2. Very good economy
3. Very few of are PM's were bad leaders
4. were just really cool

ALL HAIL CANADA!!!!!

1. Wait, you have a military. Oh, yeah. Totally forgot.
2. Your welcome? Sincerely, America
3. Again, you have a government?
4. *cough, cough*

Next.

[Hypparchia]

Considering the fact that Russia is unconquerable and nobody would have the economic capacity to bring China to a capitulation without nuclear weapons, I'd give a tie for these two countries.

[Khodoristan]

Canada is be the second most powerful country in the world because:

1. Well trained military (numbers don't mean everything you know.)
2. Very good economy
3. Very few of are PM's were bad leaders
4. were just really cool

ALL HAIL CANADA!!!!!

Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot about the time you guys got bitched out by a bunch of cheese-eating surrender monkeys.

[Minnysota]

Considering the fact that Russia is unconquerable and nobody would have the economic capacity to bring China to a capitulation without nuclear weapons, I'd give a tie for these two countries.

lol Russia is conquerable, but who wants to conquer Russia?

and the US could easily bring China to its knees without nukes

[Hypparchia]

Considering the fact that Russia is unconquerable and nobody would have the economic capacity to bring China to a capitulation without nuclear weapons, I'd give a tie for these two countries.

lol Russia is conquerable, but who wants to conquer Russia?

and the US could easily bring China to its knees without nukes

No country would have the capacity to impose effective control over such a huge territory in a sufficient amount of time, and a sufficient amount of time would mean years, rendering a full-scale invasion of Russia to be impractical at best. And an invasion, or at least a massive attack would be the best retaliation against Russia's power-projection capabilities.

How would the U.S. bring China to its knees ? I'm curious to hear.

[Minnysota]

1.) The combined forces of NATO could certainly conquer Russia. Then again, IDK why they would want to.

2.) Total air and naval superiority? If the US wanted, they could take out almost all of China's industry just by bombing the coast to smithereens.

[Tiami]

1.) The combined forces of NATO could certainly conquer Russia. Then again, IDK why they would want to.

2.) Total air and naval superiority? If the US wanted, they could take out almost all of China's industry just by bombing the coast to smithereens.

I endorse this statement.

[IndependentCanada]

Canada is be the second most powerful country in the world because:

1. Well trained military (numbers don't mean everything you know.)
2. Very good economy
3. Very few of are PM's were bad leaders
4. were just really cool

ALL HAIL CANADA!!!!!

1. Wait, you have a military. Oh, yeah. Totally forgot.
2. Your welcome? Sincerely, America
3. Again, you have a government?
4. *cough, cough*

Next.

I can see that Nobody likes Canada.

[Minnysota]

I love Canada.

[IndependentCanada]

I love Canada.

Cool!

[Soxastan]

China economically and Russia in the military sector. Maybe Japan if we give them the ability to have Gundams or an actual navy/military. If we let them have it, they will abuse it, a lot.

[Minnysota]

China economically and Russia in the military sector. Maybe Japan if we give them the ability to have Gundams or an actual navy/military. If we let them have it, they will abuse it, a lot.

Russia #2 in military power? Ha!

[IndependentCanada]

Russia's army has fell into decline over the last few years.

[Vingtor]

lol Russia is conquerable, but who wants to conquer Russia?

and the US could easily bring China to its knees without nukes

No country would have the capacity to impose effective control over such a huge territory in a sufficient amount of time, and a sufficient amount of time would mean years, rendering a full-scale invasion of Russia to be impractical at best. And an invasion, or at least a massive attack would be the best retaliation against Russia's power-projection capabilities.

How would the U.S. bring China to its knees ? I'm curious to hear.

Surgical Strikes with long range Stealth Bombers and Reaper drone swarms. The United States has spent a long time and considerable effort studying how to taking down huge somewhat antiquated industrial nations before it get down to the nukes. Thank you, Russia!

[Krakke]

Russia's army has fell into decline over the last few years.

Didn't stop them in the 1940's, sure as hell not gonna matter now.
Russian Tactics: throw everything and the kitchen sink at the enemy, grind them down, keep retreating and let them get too far into Russia, wait for winter. Works every time.

As Ackbar put it: ITS A TRAP!

Just curious, why are the french in 4th place? Shouldn't they be like 200th?