second most powerful country

[Crabulonia]

Not in this modern age.

Well, European Armed Forces aren't as implausible as some would think. Numerous leaders from the peripheral economies have come out in support of a united military, which would probably be able to rival the US.

Europe combined has a larger population and GDP than America (lower per capita but we have got a lot of Eastern Europe to drag along a while).

[Keronians]

Well, European Armed Forces aren't as implausible as some would think. Numerous leaders from the peripheral economies have come out in support of a united military, which would probably be able to rival the US.

Europe combined has a larger population and GDP than America (lower per capita but we have got a lot of Eastern Europe to drag along a while).

All of Europe together has a population of some 730 million.

Not including the Russians it's something like 580 million.

[New Embossia]

I personally believe that Germany, South Korea, India, France, Canada should come before Russia. It is a weak state now.

[Tiami]

Well, European Armed Forces aren't as implausible as some would think. Numerous leaders from the peripheral economies have come out in support of a united military, which would probably be able to rival the US.

Europe combined has a larger population and GDP than America (lower per capita but we have got a lot of Eastern Europe to drag along a while).

Larger population, no doubt. But, Europe barely has a bigger GDP.

[Keronians]

Europe combined has a larger population and GDP than America (lower per capita but we have got a lot of Eastern Europe to drag along a while).

Larger population, no doubt. But, Europe barely has a bigger GDP.

Barely? Just the European Union has a larger nominal GDP by about $2 trillion, IIRC. And almost half of European countries aren't in the EU.

[Romlia]

Silly. Of course that's not true.

I'd say USA and EU are equally powerful, yet they are both dying.
On the other hand there is quite a bright future for China and Japan.

[Keronians]

Silly. Of course that's not true.

I'd say USA and EU are equally powerful, yet they are both dying.
On the other hand there is quite a bright future for China and Japan.

And Japan ISN'T dying?

[New Embossia]

Europe combined has a larger population and GDP than America (lower per capita but we have got a lot of Eastern Europe to drag along a while).

Larger population, no doubt. But, Europe barely has a bigger GDP.

Why are people still comparing about 17 countries to one?

[New Embossia]

Silly. Of course that's not true.

I'd say USA and EU are equally powerful, yet they are both dying.
On the other hand there is quite a bright future for China and Japan.

And Japan ISN'T dying?

No, but about 8 million have died since March.

Just kidding <3

[Nazis in Space]

Larger population, no doubt. But, Europe barely has a bigger GDP.

Why are people still comparing about 17 countries to one?

Quantity has a quality all of its own?

[Keronians]

Larger population, no doubt. But, Europe barely has a bigger GDP.

Why are people still comparing about 17 countries to one?

27, not 17.

[Tiami]

And Japan ISN'T dying?

No, but about 8 million have died since March.

Just kidding <3

I think eight million is a little over rated, dude.

[Tiami]

Larger population, no doubt. But, Europe barely has a bigger GDP.

Why are people still comparing about 17 countries to one?

Because one country is nearly richer than all of Europe. And it's 27.

[Khodoristan]

Id say the uk. If it wasn't for the us military, they'd be tied for first.

[President Mathias]

That's not surprising. But how is France more powerful than Germany?

I'm shocked too, but France is
1. More energy efficient
2. Has a greater trade surplus
3. Has... argh *rubs brow*... a good military *gags*

Why "argh *rubs brow* ... a good military *gags*"? France has traditionally had a decent military. The Franks conquered Western Europe(though, due to the instability at the time it might not be such a huge feat), France controlled western Europe for quite some time, was practically the leader of the Crusades, Napoleon Bonaparte are all shows of great military might. Sure, they got conquered in two WW's, but that doesn't mean they can't rise out of their slump.

[Crabulonia]

I'm shocked too, but France is
1. More energy efficient
2. Has a greater trade surplus
3. Has... argh *rubs brow*... a good military *gags*

Why "argh *rubs brow* ... a good military *gags*"? France has traditionally had a decent military. The Franks conquered Western Europe(though, due to the instability at the time it might not be such a huge feat), France controlled western Europe for quite some time, was practically the leader of the Crusades, Napoleon Bonaparte are all shows of great military might. Sure, they got conquered in two WW's, but that doesn't mean they can't rise out of their slump.

They didn't do awful in the Great War?

[Keronians]

Why "argh *rubs brow* ... a good military *gags*"? France has traditionally had a decent military. The Franks conquered Western Europe(though, due to the instability at the time it might not be such a huge feat), France controlled western Europe for quite some time, was practically the leader of the Crusades, Napoleon Bonaparte are all shows of great military might. Sure, they got conquered in two WW's, but that doesn't mean they can't rise out of their slump.

They didn't do awful in the Great War?

Well, they got beaten by Prussia in the Franco-Prussian War...

[Crabulonia]

They didn't do awful in the Great War?

Well, they got beaten by Prussia in the Franco-Prussian War...

Aye, true that. To my knowledge the population was smaller, growing less quickly, and they were generally less dynamic than the Teutons.

[New Embossia]

Why is Russia so close to the United Kingdom?

[Crabulonia]

Why is Russia so close to the United Kingdom?

A combination of the thaw following the Ice Age and continental drift.

[Kazomal]

It's not about states, it's about networks of power elites (decision makers), which transcend nations more and more as time goes on.

[Keronians]

Why is Russia so close to the United Kingdom?

Because it's arguable that Russia is the second most powerful military power in the World?

[Lackadaisical2]

Well, European Armed Forces aren't as implausible as some would think. Numerous leaders from the peripheral economies have come out in support of a united military, which would probably be able to rival the US.

Europe combined has a larger population and GDP than America (lower per capita but we have got a lot of Eastern Europe to drag along a while).

...and? I thought we were talking navies, a combined European fleet would still get pwned.

[Minnysota]

Why is Russia so close to the United Kingdom?

Because it's arguable that Russia is the second most powerful military power in the World?

Russia at best qualifies for third. France or Britain are for more deserving of the #2 spot than Russia. Not just for having superior equipment, but for actually have trained forces. The morale of the Russian army is shit, and they are made up of mostly conscripts.

[New East Ireland]

I'd say that list is about right. China and Russia could tie for third, but I'd say that the U.K. is pretty influential.