second most powerful country

[Lunkin]

Economically.

"Butter before guns"?

Until WW3

[Crabulonia]

"Butter before guns"?

Until WW3

Don't know if the Germans would try it again, but like how ith a cat which tries to chase birds and eat them all the time you put a bell on its collar, German rearmament would be detected swiftly and their intentions thwarted.

[Lunkin]

It would be different. The Germans would just help rather than lead the charge.

[Heningrad]

I think in a WW3 scenario Germany would help the allies because they have learned their lesson

[Vingtor]

Until WW3

Don't know if the Germans would try it again, but like how ith a cat which tries to chase birds and eat them all the time you put a bell on its collar, German rearmament would be detected swiftly and their intentions thwarted.

Naw nothing stops Germany from rearming today. In fact, American Generals have called at various times for Europe to step their defence game up.

[Trotskylvania]

Lunkin wrote:


Until WW3

Don't know if the Germans would try it again, but like how ith a cat which tries to chase birds and eat them all the time you put a bell on its collar, German rearmament would be detected swiftly and their intentions thwarted.

My friend tried that with his cat. The cat killed even more birds out of spite.

[Keronians]

What the hell's France doing below China?

2,285,000 verus 123,100 regulars. That's why.

Manpower =/= superiority

If it were, India would be #3.

... Actually, yeah, go numbers! WE'RE NUMBER 3! WE'RE NUMBER 3!

[Lunkin]

If it was manpower Bangladesh would be like 5th

[Calenhardon]

Manpower is an ingredient of power, but not the most essential. The UK established a huge empire with a comparatively rather small population. India and China are developing powers, but have not been major powers for the past several centuries, despite maintaining large populations. Rather wealth and industrialization are far more important. Population is required to field large armies, but equipping them requires advanced industries that both are only starting to build. Something like 18% of the Chinese population is still tied up in agriculture, as opposed to something like 2% for the US, if my memory serves. Now, if/when China and India get around to industrializing their economies, their populations combined with wealth will make them powerhouses. But for now, all those people are mostly just extra mouths to feed. Or not feed, as the case may be.

[PapaJacky]

The British are still influential, their military, although dwindling, is still powerful, and their economy, although "small", is still strong. Their language is still the dominant language in the world ffs.

[Azaca]

Yeah! So suck it everyone that says Canada sucks! Fuck you!

[Minnysota]

I'd still say France is more powerful, at the moment. The Astute class submarine looks superb from what I have heard - I have yet to read up on it myself - and Britain is getting new carriers with the JSF. France is to have two new carriers, but they are equipped with the Rafale, which is still one of the best fighters out there.

[Minnysota]

This.

I'd put France and Britain on an equal level militarily because they both have stout armies, navies, and air forces. However, France currently holds better power projection than Britain with larger nuclear-powered carriers that have superior aircraft in the Rafale. The superior power projection is the only reason why I'd ever rate France at #2 instead of Britain. I'd say that France and Britain are both the best contenders for the #2 spot.

The United Kingdom have a higher quality special forces and more diplomatic reach then France.

Must I pull out the "Special Forces don't win wars against other world powers" card again? Seriously, whoopy te do! Britain's special forces can do magic, but they won't win the war against the French.

[Minnysota]

The Chinese are being overly kind to western europe, I think the list would be more like this....

1: USA (obviously)
2: Russia
3: UK
4: China
5: France
6: Japan
7: Germany
8: South Korea
9: India
10: Turkey

UK and France are both ahead of Russia/China. Same goes for Japan and Germany, tbh.

[Manahakatouki]

I'd call that truthful...

[Crabulonia]

Don't know if the Germans would try it again, but like how ith a cat which tries to chase birds and eat them all the time you put a bell on its collar, German rearmament would be detected swiftly and their intentions thwarted.

My friend tried that with his cat. The cat killed even more birds out of spite.

Must be a fairly fleet cat to catch birds even with a bell on.

[Manahakatouki]

My friend tried that with his cat. The cat killed even more birds out of spite.

Must be a fairly fleet cat to catch birds even with a bell on.

Or just poorly athletic birds...

[Crabulonia]

Must be a fairly fleet cat to catch birds even with a bell on.

Or just poorly athletic birds...

...

Touché salesman.

[Tiami]

I'll agree with the rankings. Britian has finally entered the race to build supercarriers as the U.S had so many years ago, so that gives quite a bit of power projection.

[Minnysota]

I'll agree with the rankings. Britian has finally entered the race to build supercarriers as the U.S had so many years ago, so that gives quite a bit of power projection.

France has as well, while also - at the moment - having superior carrier-borne aircraft.

[Tiami]

I'll agree with the rankings. Britian has finally entered the race to build supercarriers as the U.S had so many years ago, so that gives quite a bit of power projection.

France has as well, while also - at the moment - having superior carrier-borne aircraft.

Forgot about France. If I read an article right, aren't the Brits and French sharing, or considering on sharing the design?

[Minnysota]

France has as well, while also - at the moment - having superior carrier-borne aircraft.

Forgot about France. If I read an article right, aren't the Brits and French sharing, or considering on sharing the design?

I believe the French carrier is based off of the British carrier. Yeah, I think that is right.

[Tiami]

Forgot about France. If I read an article right, aren't the Brits and French sharing, or considering on sharing the design?

I believe the French carrier is based off of the British carrier. Yeah, I think that is right.

I'll find a suitable link and try to verify.

[Keronians]

I'll agree with the rankings. Britian has finally entered the race to build supercarriers as the U.S had so many years ago, so that gives quite a bit of power projection.

What about Russia? IIRC, Russia already has supercarriers, right?

[Minnysota]

I'll agree with the rankings. Britian has finally entered the race to build supercarriers as the U.S had so many years ago, so that gives quite a bit of power projection.

What about Russia? IIRC, Russia already has supercarriers, right?

Russia's navy is not something to be desired, however. From what I can tell, their modernization programs won't be enough to put them in the arena with France, the UK, or the US navies.

e: According to Wiki's definition of a supercarrier, Russia does not have any supercarriers. I am aware that they were planning to build several supercarriers; but, they were canceled.