Gun Rights

[Lessnt]

Simple simple.
You cannot stop mentally ill people from hiding mental illness.
SO>>>>>>> there have been mentally ill people who served in the militia.military.national guard.

And they are then discharged when their illnesses are discovered. That's if they even made it through medical without it getting noticed.

Does not change the fact that it happens and it will continue to happen.

[Calldar]

And they are then discharged when their illnesses are discovered. That's if they even made it through medical without it getting noticed.

Does not change the fact that it happens and it will continue to happen.

In case you haven't noticed kid, the military tries to stop that from happening as much as possible.

[Lessnt]

Does not change the fact that it happens and it will continue to happen.

In case you haven't noticed kid, the military tries to stop that from happening as much as possible.

And it is hopeless.
So in my opinion the mentally ill has done as much as anyone to deserve their rights.

[Gun Manufacturers]

Legally owned automatic weapons are almost never used in crimes (the kind of people that can afford to purchase transferable select fire/full auto weapons aren't the kind of people that use them to commit crimes). IMO, there's no reason for them to be banned.

Automatic weapons are tricky, while they can be fun to use recreationally they aren't practical for self defense and can be terrifying liabilities in the wrong hands. People should have access but it shouldn't be easy.

As of right now, it isn't easy. It requires a paperwork signoff from the CLEO in your town/city/county/state (unless you have an NFA trust already set up), as well as a tax stamp from ATF. Even then, you're limited to full auto/select fire weapons manufactured and registered before May 19, 1986 (which is why the price for one is so high, because supply is so much lower than demand).

[Gun Manufacturers]

birdshot often wounds not kills.

Tell that to the guy Dick Cheney blew away.

grain is a measurement.
But in a bullet what is it measuring?
How does this measurement relate to bullets and guns?

It's a unit of measurement, it usually refers to the bullet but is also used to measure the slug the powder or just about anything else because that's how measurement works.

The guy that Dick Cheney "blew away" is Harry Whittington, who survived the incident. Of course, that example is more the exception than the rule.

[Andaluciae]

My High-Standard .22 lr pistol is most certainly not a weapon of death.

The mob used to love those things because they do a hell of a job liquifeying a human brain.

Which is exactly why they would down over a thousand dollars on a precision machined, Olympic competition pistol with a long barrel, and great weight. You can certainly kill with a .22 target pistol, but it doesn't make any sense, economically or capabilities-wise to try. They're designed to be used by sporting competitors. I certainly don't plan on shooting anything other than little pieces of paper. Just like baseball bats, golf clubs and fencing sabers.

[Des-Bal]

As of right now, it isn't easy. It requires a paperwork signoff from the CLEO in your town/city/county/state (unless you have an NFA trust already set up), as well as a tax stamp from ATF. Even then, you're limited to full auto/select fire weapons manufactured and registered before May 19, 1986 (which is why the price for one is so high, because supply is so much lower than demand).

And that's a good system.

Which is exactly why they would down over a thousand dollars on a precision machined, Olympic competition pistol with a long barrel, and great weight. You can certainly kill with a .22 target pistol, but it doesn't make any sense, economically or capabilities-wise to try. They're designed to be used by sporting competitors. I certainly don't plan on shooting anything other than little pieces of paper. Just like baseball bats, golf clubs and fencing sabers.

Try about 300 dollars. Criminals aren't often concerned with accuracy or even stopping power as much as they are about clip size and concealability. To quote Sonny Corleone "Whataya think this is, the Army, where you shoot 'em a mile away? You gotta get up close like this... badaBING! you blow their brains all over your nice Ivy League suit" The fact that a 22 round often won't be able to exit the body often results in serious wounds that aren't easy to quickly treat.

[William Delaney III]

Frankly, I would ban guns just to annoy the NRA nuts I've known. They annoy me.

Otherwise, I'm a little bit skeptical of the ability of gun control laws to reduce violent crime, and I only tend to err, grudgingly, on the side of thinking it might work because the more credible scientific sources tend to think it would be a good idea.

[Novaya Tselinoyarsk]

Otherwise, I'm a little bit skeptical of the ability of gun control laws to reduce violent crime, and I only tend to err, grudgingly, on the side of thinking it might work because the more credible scientific sources tend to think it would be a good idea.

And for a long ass period of time most people thought the Earth was flat, doesn't mean it was right.

[Andaluciae]

As of right now, it isn't easy. It requires a paperwork signoff from the CLEO in your town/city/county/state (unless you have an NFA trust already set up), as well as a tax stamp from ATF. Even then, you're limited to full auto/select fire weapons manufactured and registered before May 19, 1986 (which is why the price for one is so high, because supply is so much lower than demand).

And that's a good system.

Which is exactly why they would down over a thousand dollars on a precision machined, Olympic competition pistol with a long barrel, and great weight. You can certainly kill with a .22 target pistol, but it doesn't make any sense, economically or capabilities-wise to try. They're designed to be used by sporting competitors. I certainly don't plan on shooting anything other than little pieces of paper. Just like baseball bats, golf clubs and fencing sabers.

Try about 300 dollars. Criminals aren't often concerned with accuracy or even stopping power as much as they are about clip size and concealability. To quote Sonny Corleone "Whataya think this is, the Army, where you shoot 'em a mile away? You gotta get up close like this... badaBING! you blow their brains all over your nice Ivy League suit" The fact that a 22 round often won't be able to exit the body often results in serious wounds that aren't easy to quickly treat.

I feel like you missed the part where I said i was describing my gun. High-Standard .22, Olympic Target pistol. Not a Saturday night special.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

As of right now, it isn't easy. It requires a paperwork signoff from the CLEO in your town/city/county/state (unless you have an NFA trust already set up), as well as a tax stamp from ATF. Even then, you're limited to full auto/select fire weapons manufactured and registered before May 19, 1986 (which is why the price for one is so high, because supply is so much lower than demand).

And that's a good system.

Which is exactly why they would down over a thousand dollars on a precision machined, Olympic competition pistol with a long barrel, and great weight. You can certainly kill with a .22 target pistol, but it doesn't make any sense, economically or capabilities-wise to try. They're designed to be used by sporting competitors. I certainly don't plan on shooting anything other than little pieces of paper. Just like baseball bats, golf clubs and fencing sabers.

Try about 300 dollars. Criminals aren't often concerned with accuracy or even stopping power as much as they are about clip size and concealability. To quote Sonny Corleone "Whataya think this is, the Army, where you shoot 'em a mile away? You gotta get up close like this... badaBING! you blow their brains all over your nice Ivy League suit" The fact that a 22 round often won't be able to exit the body often results in serious wounds that aren't easy to quickly treat.

A High Standard .22 target pistol is not $300.

$300 is a bit expensive for the mob anyways. They'll go after <$100 Raven Arms and Jiminez .25 ACPs.

Otherwise, I'm a little bit skeptical of the ability of gun control laws to reduce violent crime, and I only tend to err, grudgingly, on the side of thinking it might work because the more credible scientific sources tend to think it would be a good idea.

And for a long ass period of time most people thought the Earth was flat, doesn't mean it was right.

1) No one sane thought the Earth was flat for any significant period of time.

Even Columbus was saw as a loon because he thought the Earth was half the size everyone else thought it was.

2) The "more credible" sources say that gun control is utter bollocks. The only ones that agree with it are the political spindoctoring ones.

[Des-Bal]

I feel like you missed the part where I said i was describing my gun. High-Standard .22, Olympic Target pistol. Not a Saturday night special.

I'm not sure if your suggesting the mob won't kill someone without your gun or that your gun is incapable of killing someone either way I disagree. You can pick up a 22 caliber pistol for about three hundred bucks probably for less if your not going through legal channels.

[Novaya Tselinoyarsk]

And for a long ass period of time most people thought the Earth was flat, doesn't mean it was right.

1) No one sane thought the Earth was flat for any significant period of time.

Even Columbus was saw as a loon because he thought the Earth was half the size everyone else thought it was.

2) The "more credible" sources say that gun control is utter bollocks. The only ones that agree with it are the political spindoctoring ones.

1) Way to take an analogy way out of proportion, but you're bound to do that.

2) I was against gun control, but you had to try to look right.

[Calldar]

You can pick up a 22 caliber pistol for about three hundred bucks probably for less if your not going through legal channels.

Or you could go buy a Mosin Nagant at a random gun store for 80$ and really make a statement.

[Des-Bal]

A High Standard .22 target pistol is not $300.

$300 is a bit expensive for the mob anyways. They'll go after <$100 Raven Arms and Jiminez .25 ACPs.


1) No one sane thought the Earth was flat for any significant period of time.

Even Columbus was saw as a loon because he thought the Earth was half the size everyone else thought it was.

2) The "more credible" sources say that gun control is utter bollocks. The only ones that agree with it are the political spindoctoring ones.

Because if there's anything a mob hitman skimps on it's murder weapons.

Gun control laws are too varied across the states without federal legislation most of those studies are contaminated.

[Des-Bal]

Or you could go buy a Mosin Nagant at a random gun store for 80$ and really make a statement.

Try to conceal a mosin nagant without looking like a drunk zombie. We'll wait.

[Calldar]

Or you could go buy a Mosin Nagant at a random gun store for 80$ and really make a statement.

Try to conceal a mosin nagant without looking like a drunk zombie. We'll wait.

You could always tell people you have a huge package.

[Des-Bal]

You could always tell people you have a huge package.

I constantly tell people that but they still generally notice when I stuff russian sniper rifles down my pants.

[Joneslind]

we need guns for protecshen i meen the bad guys have guns why cant the good guys

[William Delaney III]

Otherwise, I'm a little bit skeptical of the ability of gun control laws to reduce violent crime, and I only tend to err, grudgingly, on the side of thinking it might work because the more credible scientific sources tend to think it would be a good idea.

And for a long ass period of time most people thought the Earth was flat, doesn't mean it was right.

Okay...so, you want to show me some statistics that prove people in high crime districts tend to be more likely to think that gun laws are necessary, or would you like to tell me the one about how you really think you would be the first to shoot if you pulled a gun on an armed intruder?

Look, guns are useless to me. I am a PUSSY when it comes to violent situations. They may make YOU feel more secure, but I figure that I would live longer if I relied on diplomacy to resolve such situations.

If you want to argue the subject until kingdom come, fine, but you're not going to succeed in getting someone of my disposition excited about "gun rights." I seriously wouldn't give a fuck, and all that I know is that the guys in the white coats seem to think it would be a grand idea to get rid of them.

[Yefrovania]

yea the USA culture is part of the reason gun crimes are so high. However, the guns I do have are my property, taking them away is theft. Even if under the pretense of a "law". fuck that.

[Des-Bal]

yea the USA culture is part of the reason gun crimes are so high. However, the guns I do have are my property, taking them away is theft. Even if under the pretense of a "law". fuck that.

No it's not.

[Novaya Tselinoyarsk]

If you want to argue the subject until kingdom come, fine, but you're not going to succeed in getting someone of my disposition excited about "gun rights." I seriously wouldn't give a fuck, and all that I know is that the guys in the white coats seem to think it would be a grand idea to get rid of them.

At least you're admitting you'll be ignorant to the whole situation, so why even bother? You think because some people think it would be a good idea you'll follow it? How would you enforce it in any country, not even including the United States? It's a nice Utopian idea, but it'll never happen until all guns have to be FORCEFULLY controlled by some sort of DNA to even operate. Then you know what will happen? Black Market going up, up, up.

[Urwumpe]

Open carry. if you show that you walk around with a 120 mm mortar, you can't secretly smuggle one into school to make a massacre.

[Novaya Tselinoyarsk]

Open carry. if you show that you walk around with a 120 mm mortar, you can't secretly smuggle one into school to make a massacre.

I'd like to see how you would sneak one in in the first place..

"Oh, it's just a Troy horse for our school play!"