Gun Rights

[Calldar]

WHatcha gonna do bout that then?

Merely hope that you don't don't pose too much of a danger to yourself and others.

[Lessnt]

WHatcha gonna do bout that then?

Merely hope that you don't don't pose too much of a danger to yourself and others.

ok.
DONT WORRY.

[Des-Bal]

Uh-huh.
WHatcha gonna do bout that then?

Prevent you from owning a gun until you can prove your competent and trained enough to do so.

[Lessnt]

Uh-huh.
WHatcha gonna do bout that then?

Prevent you from owning a gun until you can prove your competent and trained enough to do so.

not happening.
Never will.
Against my constitutional rights.

[Des-Bal]

not happening.
Never will.
Against my constitutional rights.

It's the responsibility of the courts to decide what is and is not against your constitutional rights and right now gun restrictions are being enforced.

[Lessnt]

not happening.
Never will.
Against my constitutional rights.

It's the responsibility of the courts to decide what is and is not against your constitutional rights and right now gun restrictions are being enforced.

Courts are losing legitimacy.
Many unconsitutional things continue to happen.

[Des-Bal]

Courts are losing legitimacy.
Many unconsitutional things continue to happen.

Yeah no.

[Calldar]

Prevent you from owning a gun until you can prove your competent and trained enough to do so.

not happening.
Never will.
Against my constitutional rights.

You may want to read this. http://reference.pafoa.org/statutes/PA/ ... -firearms/

Pay specific attention to article A.1, section C, paragraph 4.

[Des-Bal]

You may want to read this. http://reference.pafoa.org/statutes/PA/ ... -firearms/

Pay specific attention to article A.1, section C, paragraph 4.

No see if he doesn't know the law it can't hut him.

[Lessnt]

You may want to read this. http://reference.pafoa.org/statutes/PA/ ... -firearms/

Pay specific attention to article A.1, section C, paragraph 4.

No see if he doesn't know the law it can't hut him.

And you see how it is unconsitutional?
No one is saying unconsitutional laws do not exist.
You all have just gotten use to them.

[Calldar]

And you see how it is unconsitutional?
No one is saying unconsitutional laws do not exist.
You all have just gotten use to them.

"A person who has been adjudicated as an incompetent or who has been involuntarily committed to a mental institution"

That means "stupid people" and "crazy people" should not own guns. Which they shouldn't.

You most certainly belong to the first group, but I wouldn't totally rule out the 2nd group either. If somebody is incapable of using a firearm responsibly then they have no business owning one.

[Lessnt]

And you see how it is unconsitutional?
No one is saying unconsitutional laws do not exist.
You all have just gotten use to them.

"A person who has been adjudicated as an incompetent or who has been involuntarily committed to a mental institution"

That means "stupid people" and "crazy people" should not own guns. Which they shouldn't.

You most certainly belong to the first group, but I wouldn't totally rule out the 2nd group either. If somebody is incapable of using a firearm responsibly then they have no business owning one.

That is unconsitutional in my opinion.

[Calldar]

That is unconsitutional in my opinion.

So then, for example, you believe that a convicted felon, who is prone to bouts of irrational anger and is mentally ill should be able to legally purchase a firearm?



Do you hear yourself?

[Lessnt]

That is unconsitutional in my opinion.

So then, for example, you believe that a convicted felon, who is prone to bouts of irrational anger and is mentally ill should be able to legally purchase a firearm?



Do you hear yourself?

no I did not say convicted felon.

[Calldar]

no I did not say convicted felon.

Fine. Somebody who is prone to irrational bouts of anger and has a mental illness, lets say he has dementia.

You seriously think that person would make a responsible gun owner?

[Lessnt]

no I did not say convicted felon.

Fine. Somebody who is prone to irrational bouts of anger and has a mental illness, lets say he has dementia.

You seriously think that person would make a responsible gun owner?

nope.
But it is their right.

[Calldar]

But it is their right.

No it isn't.

[Lessnt]

But it is their right.

No it isn't.

It is.

[Calldar]

No it isn't.

It is.

No, it is not.

As passed by the Congress:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

A person who is incapable of rational though, who has a mental illness, or poses a danger to themselves or others can not belong to the United States military, the National Guard or a citizens militia.

[Lessnt]

It is.

No, it is not.

As passed by the Congress:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

A person who is incapable of rational though, who has a mental illness, or poses a danger to themselves or others can not belong to the United States military, the National Guard or a citizens militia.

Sure they can.

[Calldar]

Sure they can.

Go find me a historical reference to a mentally handicapped minuteman, and we'll talk. Until then we're done.

[Lessnt]

Sure they can.

Go find me a historical reference to a mentally handicapped minuteman, and we'll talk. Until then we're done.

Show me how you can stop mental illness from developing?

[Calldar]

Go find me a historical reference to a mentally handicapped minuteman, and we'll talk. Until then we're done.

Show me how you can stop mental illness from developing?

...the hell does that have to do with anything?


Not to mention that some mental illnesses may even have their roots in genetics, or simple neurocognitive screw ups.

[Lessnt]

Show me how you can stop mental illness from developing?

...the hell does that have to do with anything?


Not to mention that some mental illnesses may even have their roots in genetics, or simple neurocognitive screw ups.

Simple simple.
You cannot stop mentally ill people from hiding mental illness.
SO>>>>>>> there have been mentally ill people who served in the militia.military.national guard.

[Calldar]

...the hell does that have to do with anything?


Not to mention that some mental illnesses may even have their roots in genetics, or simple neurocognitive screw ups.

Simple simple.
You cannot stop mentally ill people from hiding mental illness.
SO>>>>>>> there have been mentally ill people who served in the militia.military.national guard.

And they are then discharged when their illnesses are discovered. That's if they even made it through medical without it getting noticed.