Gun Rights

[Andaluciae]

My High-Standard .22 lr pistol is most certainly not a weapon of death.

Yes it is. I guarantee you could kill somebody with it, and not just with a shot to the head. Don't ever discount the killing power of the .22LR.

If ya can't treat the little guns as dangerous, you ought not carry any.

It's no more a weapon of death than my Louisville Slugger. My point is, it's not intended for violence. It's intended for sport.

Also, it's a six and a half inch barrel. Only a giant could carry my .22 lr concealed.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

My High-Standard .22 lr pistol is most certainly not a weapon of death.

Yes it is.

Guns don't kill people.

[Senestrum]

My High-Standard .22 lr pistol is most certainly not a weapon of death.

Yes it is. I guarantee you could kill somebody with it, and not just with a shot to the head. Don't ever discount the killing power of the .22LR.

If ya can't treat the little guns as dangerous, you ought not carry any.

I can strangle you to death with my panties. Doesn't make them an instrument of death.

[Lessnt]

Yes it is. I guarantee you could kill somebody with it, and not just with a shot to the head. Don't ever discount the killing power of the .22LR.

If ya can't treat the little guns as dangerous, you ought not carry any.

I can strangle you to death with my panties. Doesn't make them an instrument of death.

I can pummel people to death with a baseball bat.....is it an instrument of death?
Of course not.
It is meant for a sport.

[Maroza]

I can strangle you to death with my panties. Doesn't make them an instrument of death.

I can pummel people to death with a baseball bat.....is it an instrument of death?
Of course not.
It is meant for a sport.

Similarly piano string would work.
Is that an instrument of death?
Well its part of an instrument and it did cause death...............but no the answer is no! It is not an instrument of death.

[Lessnt]

I can pummel people to death with a baseball bat.....is it an instrument of death?
Of course not.
It is meant for a sport.

Similarly piano string would work.
Is that an instrument of death?
Well its part of an instrument and it did cause death...............but no the answer is no! It is not an instrument of death.

Falling pianos are instruments of death though.

[Occupied Deutschland]

Similarly piano string would work.
Is that an instrument of death?
Well its part of an instrument and it did cause death...............but no the answer is no! It is not an instrument of death.

Falling pianos are instruments of death though.

Nuh-Uh. According to 3-stooges and Looney Tunes physics they are solely an instrument of humor

[Des-Bal]

I can strangle you to death with my panties. Doesn't make them an instrument of death.

Guns are designed for the sole purpose of killing most are designed to kill people.

[Des-Bal]

My High-Standard .22 lr pistol is most certainly not a weapon of death.

The mob used to love those things because they do a hell of a job liquifeying a human brain.

[Lessnt]

I can strangle you to death with my panties. Doesn't make them an instrument of death.

Guns are designed for the sole purpose of killing most are designed to kill people.

NUh-uh Handguns are designed for the sole purpose of self defense as they sacrifice lethality for concealment and a light weight.
Shotguns were designed for protecting property!
Many rifles are designed for hunting.

Guns in general are designed to direct a bullet.
Bullets are designed to make it faster to reload a gun.
The projectile is designed to do whatever the person wants.
Sometimes people shoot tear gas canisters using guns.
What the projectile is depends on you.
Your knowledge of guns is quite lacking.
They have found a diverse purpose beyond war and killing.

[Vingtor]

There's no nice way to put it.

If you actually support citizens having guns... you are a moron.

I cannot begin to describe how f***ed up it is that you can own a gun in America when you're 18 but you can't drink until you're 21.

How dumb can people possibly get?

Ban guns outright. The only people who should have guns are the military. MAYBE the police.

Wow a totally blown out of proportion statement from a sniveling communist. A real champion when it comes to backing the right horse.

[Farnhamia]

Guns are designed for the sole purpose of killing most are designed to kill people.

NUh-uh Handguns are designed for the sole purpose of self defense as they sacrifice lethality for concealment and a light weight.
Shotguns were designed for protecting property!
Many rifles are designed for hunting.

Guns in general are designed to direct a bullet.
Bullets are designed to make it faster to reload a gun.
The projectile is designed to do whatever the person wants.
Sometimes people shoot tear gas canisters using guns.
What the projectile is depends on you.
Your knowledge of guns is quite lacking.
They have found a diverse purpose beyond war and killing.

This is, without a doubt, one of the best pieces of rationalization I have seen in a very, very long time.

[Lessnt]

My High-Standard .22 lr pistol is most certainly not a weapon of death.

The mob used to love those things because they do a hell of a job liquifeying a human brain.

the mob loved the tommy gun.
It used .45acp
according to wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_submachine_gun

[Des-Bal]

NUh-uh Handguns are designed for the sole purpose of self defense as they sacrifice lethality for concealment and a light weight.
Shotguns were designed for protecting property!
Many rifles are designed for hunting.

Guns in general are designed to direct a bullet.
Bullets are designed to make it faster to reload a gun.
The projectile is designed to do whatever the person wants.
Sometimes people shoot tear gas canisters using guns.
What the projectile is depends on you.
Your knowledge of guns is quite lacking.
They have found a diverse purpose beyond war and killing.

Okay you seem to be missing a big part of what "Defense" "protecting property" and "Hunting" all entail. Killing. A gun is incapable of reliably and nonlethally wounding a person that is why every military and police force on earth will instruct you not to fire at anything you don't intend to destroy.

[Lessnt]

NUh-uh Handguns are designed for the sole purpose of self defense as they sacrifice lethality for concealment and a light weight.
Shotguns were designed for protecting property!
Many rifles are designed for hunting.

Guns in general are designed to direct a bullet.
Bullets are designed to make it faster to reload a gun.
The projectile is designed to do whatever the person wants.
Sometimes people shoot tear gas canisters using guns.
What the projectile is depends on you.
Your knowledge of guns is quite lacking.
They have found a diverse purpose beyond war and killing.

Okay you seem to be missing a big part of what "Defense" "protecting property" and "Hunting" all entail. Killing. A gun is incapable of reliably and nonlethally wounding a person that is why every military and police force on earth will instruct you not to fire at anything you don't intend to destroy.

You realise you can be shot and SURVIVE and NOT DIE.

As you will realise there is a reason for that.
That is for safety.
They also tell you in grade school not to run with scissors and to hand the scissors to another person pointing the handle out so the person does not hurt themselves.

Learn more about guns because you lack understanding.

[Des-Bal]

the mob loved the tommy gun.
It used .45acp
according to wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_submachine_gun

Oh I forgot that the mafia agreed to use only one weapon. The mafia used 22 caliber pistols to execute people because the bullet would enter the skull and make a very small hole that would often be missed until an actual autopsy was preformed and beyond that they tend to ricochet around inside the skull destroying the brain without the velocity to create an exit wound.

[Vingtor]

So you cannot be a free man unless someone deems you worthy of being free?

I wouldn't put someone in a car if I wasn't sure they knew what they were doing and I sure as hell wouldn't put them behind a weapon of death.

But what if the Bourgeoisie is restricting the the right of the Proletariat to drive cars so as to restrict the freedom of movement that would lead to the worker's revolution? At what point do you stop trusting the goverment to know what is best for you? How do you maintain the abillity to correct a bad one?

[Vingtor]

The mob used to love those things because they do a hell of a job liquifeying a human brain.

the mob loved the tommy gun.
It used .45acp
according to wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_submachine_gun

That was for street work. The night time assassin's gun is the twenty two in a target pistol model pressed on the temple of the target. Low flash, low nosie, low splatter.

[Des-Bal]

You realise you can be shot and SURVIVE and NOT DIE.

As you will realise there is a reason for that.
That is for safety.
They also tell you in grade school not to run with scissors and to hand the scissors to another person pointing the handle out so the person does not hurt themselves.

Learn more about guns because you lack understanding.

I was not aware you could both "SURVIVE" and "NOT DIE" I was under the impression one was the other.

You don't seem to understand exactly what I'm saying you're either entirely too young or you don't grasp english well enough to have a serious debate. They tell you that because guns are NOT capable of RELIABLY wounding someone. Wing the shoulder? Bleeds like hell and the ball joint will be permanently damaged. Leg shot? Femoral artery, may as well slice their throat. Feet? Hands? Those are real small areas that are generally so unless you're a card splitting exhibition shooter your probably out of luck.

[Des-Bal]

But what if the Bourgeoisie is restricting the the right of the Proletariat to drive cars so as to restrict the freedom of movement that would lead to the worker's revolution? At what point do you stop trusting the goverment to know what is best for you? How do you maintain the abillity to correct a bad one?

The fact I don't trust the government doesn't mean I trust everyone else. When armed nutbags with unclear psychiatric histories and no certification are the alternative I'll cast my lot in with big brother.

[Lessnt]

You realise you can be shot and SURVIVE and NOT DIE.

As you will realise there is a reason for that.
That is for safety.
They also tell you in grade school not to run with scissors and to hand the scissors to another person pointing the handle out so the person does not hurt themselves.

Learn more about guns because you lack understanding.

I was not aware you could both "SURVIVE" and "NOT DIE" I was under the impression one was the other.

You don't seem to understand exactly what I'm saying you're either entirely too young or you don't grasp english well enough to have a serious debate. They tell you that because guns are NOT capable of RELIABLY wounding someone. Wing the shoulder? Bleeds like hell and the ball joint will be permanently damaged. Leg shot? Femoral artery, may as well slice their throat. Feet? Hands? Those are real small areas that are generally so unless you're a card splitting exhibition shooter your probably out of luck.

You seem to ignore the fact that it depends on the projectile.
as guns CAN RELIABLY WOUND SOMEONE!!!
Like I said you lack understanding of guns.

[Vingtor]

You realise you can be shot and SURVIVE and NOT DIE.

As you will realise there is a reason for that.
That is for safety.
They also tell you in grade school not to run with scissors and to hand the scissors to another person pointing the handle out so the person does not hurt themselves.

Learn more about guns because you lack understanding.

I was not aware you could both "SURVIVE" and "NOT DIE" I was under the impression one was the other.

You don't seem to understand exactly what I'm saying you're either entirely too young or you don't grasp english well enough to have a serious debate. They tell you that because guns are NOT capable of RELIABLY wounding someone. Wing the shoulder? Bleeds like hell and the ball joint will be permanently damaged. Leg shot? Femoral artery, may as well slice their throat. Feet? Hands? Those are real small areas that are generally so unless you're a card splitting exhibition shooter your probably out of luck.

But you either don't grasp his point or are deliberately ignoring it. The catagories of guns he described are they are for. Saying a gun is for killing people is like saying a car is for teenagers making out. An important function to be sure, but hardly the breath and scope of it's total responsiblities.

[Des-Bal]

You seem to ignore the fact that it depends on the projectile.
as guns CAN RELIABLY WOUND SOMEONE!!!
Like I said you lack understanding of guns.

No they can't. There isn't a single part of the body that can be reliably hit by an average shooter and take a bullet without immediately imperiling the life of the victim. Not only do you not understand guns you don't seem to understand the human body, we aren't built with a bunch of extra bits. Most of that stuff needs to be there in an unperforated state.

[Farnhamia]

You seem to ignore the fact that it depends on the projectile.
as guns CAN RELIABLY WOUND SOMEONE!!!
Like I said you lack understanding of guns.

No they can't. There isn't a single part of the body that can be reliably hit by an average shooter and take a bullet without immediately imperiling the life of the victim. Not only do you not understand guns you don't seem to understand the human body, we aren't built with a bunch of extra bits. Most of that stuff needs to be there in an unperforated state.

I believe opening up the human body with high-speed projectiles voids the warranty.

[Des-Bal]

But you either don't grasp his point or are deliberately ignoring it. The catagories of guns he described are they are for. Saying a gun is for killing people is like saying a car is for teenagers making out. An important function to be sure, but hardly the breath and scope of it's total responsiblities.

I didn't ignore it I responded to it. Guns are designed to kill, even if it's not specifically intended to kill people it is intended to kill. Self Defense, Home Defense, and Hunting are categorically the activities of killing a person killing a person and killing an animal.