Gun Rights

[Gun Manufacturers]

Or, it could be that gun control doesn't reduce violent crime in America! *GASP!!!*

I like how military equipment the US gov sells/gifts to other countries some of it will most likely find their way back to america in the hands of criminals.

The stuff that's been coming back to the US from the Lend/Lease program are M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, 1903 Springfields, 1917 Enfields, etc. They're not really the types of weapons that criminals favor.

[Tsal-Kar]

Yes, it would. The real question I think is "Why is it illegal?"

The reason I didn't ask the same thing is because of people like the first guy who replied. There is no example, EVER, of someone od-ing on Marijuana. While it is physically possible, you'd fall asleep way before smoking your own weight. The 'experiments' that killed monkeys in the 80's were because they stuck them in boxes, and then just kept pumping the smoke in until the things suffocated.

My apologies for not clarifying; I should've specified that the ODs would be reduced if the harder drugs were legalized

[Lessnt]

I like how military equipment the US gov sells/gifts to other countries some of it will most likely find their way back to america in the hands of criminals.

The stuff that's been coming back to the US from the Lend/Lease program are M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, 1903 Springfields, 1917 Enfields, etc. They're not really the types of weapons that criminals favor.

I am more thinking modern assault rifles.
From foreign governments who cannot keep a good hold on them.
That go into the black market.

[Xercon]

There's no nice way to put it.

If you actually support citizens having guns... you are a moron.

I cannot begin to describe how f***ed up it is that you can own a gun in America when you're 18 but you can't drink until you're 21.

How dumb can people possibly get?

Ban guns outright. The only people who should have guns are the military. MAYBE the police.

[Free Pangea]

I support moderate gun control (licensing as well as bans on automatic weapons).

[Krocodilia]

It seems that all of the recent posts are replies. Well, I just changed that.

We Krocodilians can openly carry any damn weapon we want, whether it be a pistol or a hydrogen bomb.

Yeah baby, this is Krocodilia.

[Lessnt]

There's no nice way to put it.

If you actually support citizens having guns... you are a moron.

I cannot begin to describe how f***ed up it is that you can own a gun in America when you're 18 but you can't drink until you're 21.

How dumb can people possibly get?

Ban guns outright. The only people who should have guns are the military. MAYBE the police.

Why is it dumb?

[Des-Bal]

I'm not fond of most regulations but I find myself getting behind many gun restrictions for the simple fact that people are really really stupid. I believe that all responsible and competent people should be armed that being said experience tells me most people with a closet full of fully automatic weapons are neither of those things. The right to bear arms is a fundamental right of all free men but there really should be certification and reasonable limits on what you can own.

[Lessnt]

I'm not fond of most regulations but I find myself getting behind many gun restrictions for the simple fact that people are really really stupid. I believe that all responsible and competent people should be armed that being said experience tells me most people with a closet full of fully automatic weapons are neither of those things. The right to bear arms is a fundamental right of all free men but there really should be certification and reasonable limits on what you can own.

So you cannot be a free man unless someone deems you worthy of being free?

[Des-Bal]

So you cannot be a free man unless someone deems you worthy of being free?

I wouldn't put someone in a car if I wasn't sure they knew what they were doing and I sure as hell wouldn't put them behind a weapon of death.

[Gun Manufacturers]

I support moderate gun control (licensing as well as bans on automatic weapons).

Legally owned automatic weapons are almost never used in crimes (the kind of people that can afford to purchase transferable select fire/full auto weapons aren't the kind of people that use them to commit crimes). IMO, there's no reason for them to be banned.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

There's no nice way to put it.

If you actually support citizens having guns... you are a moron.

I cannot begin to describe how f***ed up it is that you can own a gun in America when you're 18 but you can't drink until you're 21.

How dumb can people possibly get?

Ban guns outright. The only people who should have guns are the military. MAYBE the police.

*** Warned for flamebait ***

[Des-Bal]

Legally owned automatic weapons are almost never used in crimes (the kind of people that can afford to purchase transferable select fire/full auto weapons aren't the kind of people that use them to commit crimes). IMO, there's no reason for them to be banned.

Automatic weapons are tricky, while they can be fun to use recreationally they aren't practical for self defense and can be terrifying liabilities in the wrong hands. People should have access but it shouldn't be easy.

[The Gregorach]

Actually, not once has a legally owned automatic weapon been used in a crime.

I consider all gun laws to be unconstitutional, and the one thing that would see me take up arms against the government would be a ban on guns.

[Des-Bal]

Actually, not once has a legally owned automatic weapon been used in a crime.

I consider all gun laws to be unconstitutional, and the one thing that would see me take up arms against the government would be a ban on guns.

I hope that works out for you because if it doesn't your going to be shot or stuffed into a dark hole.

[Senestrum]

Legally owned automatic weapons are almost never used in crimes (the kind of people that can afford to purchase transferable select fire/full auto weapons aren't the kind of people that use them to commit crimes). IMO, there's no reason for them to be banned.

Automatic weapons are tricky, while they can be fun to use recreationally they aren't practical for self defense and can be terrifying liabilities in the wrong hands. People should have access but it shouldn't be easy.

Please, I'm more worried about people with semi-automatic weapons than I am about people with automatics. Automatic fire is a waste of bullets except under very specific circumstances.

[Des-Bal]

Please, I'm more worried about people with semi-automatic weapons than I am about people with automatics. Automatic fire is a waste of bullets except under very specific circumstances.

Having a dense crowd full of soft targets is one of those circumstances.

[Senestrum]

No it's not.

Aimed semiautomatic fire will kill a lot more people, you won't be wasting multiple shots on any given individual.

[Des-Bal]

No it's not.

Aimed semiautomatic fire will kill a lot more people, you won't be wasting multiple shots on any given individual.

That's if you don't factor in bullet penetration.

[Senestrum]

Bullets will penetrate regardless of whether they are fired out of a semiautomatic or an automatic weapon. Besides, they lose most of their lethality after going through a person even if they don't hit bone.

[Lessnt]

So you cannot be a free man unless someone deems you worthy of being free?

I wouldn't put someone in a car if I wasn't sure they knew what they were doing and I sure as hell wouldn't put them behind a weapon of death.

Yet having a car is not part of being a free man...having a weapon is however.

[Dolmhold]

originally I was extremely anti-gun. Howeverm the more I think about it the more I think they should be allowed but you'd require extensive background checks and a high legal age, along with no history of intoxination (drunk) or etc.

[Andaluciae]

I support moderate gun control (licensing as well as bans on automatic weapons).

I guess my question would be, how does one go about licensing, with so many previously owned firearms out there. My parents have my Grandpa's childhood .22, and my great-grandfather's .30-30. I own a .22 Target pistol. How do you follow those things?

[Andaluciae]

So you cannot be a free man unless someone deems you worthy of being free?

I wouldn't put someone in a car if I wasn't sure they knew what they were doing and I sure as hell wouldn't put them behind a weapon of death.

My High-Standard .22 lr pistol is most certainly not a weapon of death.

[Separatist Peoples]

I wouldn't put someone in a car if I wasn't sure they knew what they were doing and I sure as hell wouldn't put them behind a weapon of death.

My High-Standard .22 lr pistol is most certainly not a weapon of death.

Yes it is. I guarantee you could kill somebody with it, and not just with a shot to the head. Don't ever discount the killing power of the .22LR.

If ya can't treat the little guns as dangerous, you ought not carry any.