Gun Rights

[DaWoad]

You still need a Concealed Carry permit for knives over 3 inches that are hidden on your person. Some states require a permit for carrying knives like that in the open, but I don't have a list of em handy.

Plus, knives lack the range, and require far more skill and guts to use. I was in a knife fight once as a kid. Scared the crap out of both of us when we both scored a hit, and they were superficial slashes. Cant imagine how hard it would be to push a knife into somebody.

Man, can you imagine what medieval knights would think of us? They had to slash people up for a living! We can't even cut somebody with a knife. Kids as young as 8 were hunting deer. Society has made us very weak.

not really, It's just made us civilized.

[Separatist Peoples]

Man, can you imagine what medieval knights would think of us? They had to slash people up for a living! We can't even cut somebody with a knife. Kids as young as 8 were hunting deer. Society has made us very weak.

not really, It's just made us civilized.

Civilized is a relative term. Knights thought themselves very civilized. I'm sure that people in 500 years will look at us and think us uncivilized for one reason or another.

[Yavin 1221]

I, personally, prefer knives. Most of them are small, and depending on the size, some aren't necessary to show. It does not require a license to carry a knife, and if larger than 3 inches, it just has to be showing. One can carry a buck knife, as long as it is in it's belt sheath.

You still need a Concealed Carry permit for knives over 3 inches that are hidden on your person. Some states require a permit for carrying knives like that in the open, but I don't have a list of em handy.

Plus, knives lack the range, and require far more skill and guts to use. I was in a knife fight once as a kid. Scared the crap out of both of us when we both scored a hit, and they were superficial slashes. Cant imagine how hard it would be to push a knife into somebody.

I hope california isn't on that list. But, reading your comment, it probably isn't a good idea for most people to carry around something bigger than 3 inches if they don't know how to use it.

[Separatist Peoples]

You still need a Concealed Carry permit for knives over 3 inches that are hidden on your person. Some states require a permit for carrying knives like that in the open, but I don't have a list of em handy.

Plus, knives lack the range, and require far more skill and guts to use. I was in a knife fight once as a kid. Scared the crap out of both of us when we both scored a hit, and they were superficial slashes. Cant imagine how hard it would be to push a knife into somebody.

I hope california isn't on that list. But, reading your comment, it probably isn't a good idea for most people to carry around something bigger than 3 inches if they don't know how to use it.

Yeah, anything longer then about 8 inches, people tend to get "Rambo syndrome".

I got a 7.5 inch KABAR in my camping gear. Best fucking knife i've ever had the pleasure of handling. Its saved my ass on a couple occasions, but it can get unwieldy in some situations. I've done some pretty basic combat knife fighting stuff with it, and it really isn't hard to see how anything larger would be a problem. I know people who can't use 2.5 inch paring knives, let alone a 4 inch buck knife...
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[Vingtor]

Man, can you imagine what medieval knights would think of us? They had to slash people up for a living! We can't even cut somebody with a knife. Kids as young as 8 were hunting deer. Society has made us very weak.

Different mindset back then. They were hardened to it a lot sooner then we were, if we ever became hardened to something like that. They were also probably a lot stronger then us. Can you imagine swinging a 10 pound sword for hours on end?

I've swung both a ten pound slegdehammer and shot a deer when I was 7. Not really traumatic experiances either.

[DaWoad]

not really, It's just made us civilized.

Civilized is a relative term. Knights thought themselves very civilized. I'm sure that people in 500 years will look at us and think us uncivilized for one reason or another.

agreed and?

[Separatist Peoples]

Civilized is a relative term. Knights thought themselves very civilized. I'm sure that people in 500 years will look at us and think us uncivilized for one reason or another.

agreed and?

Not killing people with sharp bits of metal doesn't make us civilized.

[Vingtor]

Civilized is a relative term. Knights thought themselves very civilized. I'm sure that people in 500 years will look at us and think us uncivilized for one reason or another.

agreed and?

People in the future are sissys, that is what.

[Separatist Peoples]

Different mindset back then. They were hardened to it a lot sooner then we were, if we ever became hardened to something like that. They were also probably a lot stronger then us. Can you imagine swinging a 10 pound sword for hours on end?

I've swung both a ten pound slegdehammer and shot a deer when I was 7. Not really traumatic experiances either.

I shoot deer too. its not a big deal. What is is taking a sharp iron sword and hacking another person to death with it.

Also, swinging a ten pound sledge is easy enough for alittle while when you let the weight do the work. Try swinging it horizontally, and with control (stopping it, instead of letting it carry through the swing). It gets much harder as the hours tick on.

[Separatist Peoples]

agreed and?

People in the future are sissys, that is what.

^ this.

[Yavin 1221]

People in the future are sissys, that is what.

^ this.

I wonder if that's what medieval knights would think of us.

[Separatist Peoples]

^ this.

I wonder if that's what medieval knights would think of us.

Without all our technology? Probably, yes. We're a lot softer then our ancestors were, even 100 years ago.

[Vingtor]

I've swung both a ten pound slegdehammer and shot a deer when I was 7. Not really traumatic experiances either.

I shoot deer too. its not a big deal. What is is taking a sharp iron sword and hacking another person to death with it.

Also, swinging a ten pound sledge is easy enough for alittle while when you let the weight do the work. Try swinging it horizontally, and with control (stopping it, instead of letting it carry through the swing). It gets much harder as the hours tick on.

I guess. Although, how much more traumatic can it be? The dude is still (hopefully) dead right? I could se tourture as maybe more mentally taxing but when you are just trying to straight up kill a dude, you knew back there what was going to happen, just as you knew that neck shot was going to drop that deer. And physically it would be more challenging, but we could get used to it. Plus I heard/read somewhewre that most battles in antiquity were long periods of standing still and then short bursts of frenetic activity.

[Yavin 1221]

I wonder if that's what medieval knights would think of us.

Without all our technology? Probably, yes. We're a lot softer then our ancestors were, even 100 years ago.

I told my fiance that I wanted to go hunting the old way. With a bow that I made myself, and a knife that was made by human hands. I think it'd make the hunt more worthwhile when we get a kill. It'd probably be dangerous. But, a sidearm as precaution would be nice.

[DaWoad]

agreed and?

Not killing people with sharp bits of metal doesn't make us civilized.

more civilized than killing people.

[President Mathias]

Not killing people with sharp bits of metal doesn't make us civilized.

more civilized than killing people.

You are a fool. Civilized is a relative term. We could meet a civilization that is millions of years advanced beyond us, but think that slavery and slaughtering people is perfectly civilized. Heck, the Romans were 'civilized' for their time. They outdid every other nation at that time! They still had slaves, gladiatorial games to the death, and much more. To think that you are more civilized is folly.

[JJ Place]

I hereby decree Tsal-Kar the recipient of the JJ Excellence of Argument Award for this post.

for basing his entire argument on a source that isn't from where he claimed it was?

I managed to find all sources within a few clicks.

[Lessnt]

Guns are a sign of freedom!

[The Soviet Technocracy]

I hope california isn't on that list. But, reading your comment, it probably isn't a good idea for most people to carry around something bigger than 3 inches if they don't know how to use it.

Yeah, anything longer then about 8 inches, people tend to get "Rambo syndrome".

I got a 7.5 inch KABAR in my camping gear. Best fucking knife i've ever had the pleasure of handling. Its saved my ass on a couple occasions, but it can get unwieldy in some situations. I've done some pretty basic combat knife fighting stuff with it, and it really isn't hard to see how anything larger would be a problem. I know people who can't use 2.5 inch paring knives, let alone a 4 inch buck knife...
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Anything less than a 17" spike is not an effective bayonet. 8" is barely effective for stabbing, tbh. Maybe trimming your whiskers, or cutting a steak, or perhaps some other utility task like wirecutting or hand-to-hand combat, but not for bayonet fighting. I personally believe that a bayonet and a combat knife are separate weapons, like a shotgun and a rifle, they can't be used for the same purposes because they are inherently different. Speaking of which, my Mosin Nagant gets more use as a spear than a rifle.

I'm also in the process of acquiring a 18" sword bayonet for my FN49. I don't like the stubby thing that came with it.

[Wikipedia and Universe]

Funny story about that guy, his name is Kyle and he's from Georgia (from the info I've found out), and regularly borrows many of those NFA items from a local Class 3 dealer, or rents them when he's at the indoor range (although I hear he does have a decent firearms collection as well).

He's actually said that he often borrows or rents a lot of weapons that he uses, and owns a lot of others. I think he lives outside of Chicago now. Please tell me you mean the Republic of Georgia and not the state of Georgia, because it would be deeply disappointing to find out that he's just acting.

I got a 7.5 inch KABAR in my camping gear. Best fucking knife i've ever had the pleasure of handling.

I heard the new ones, the OKC-3S, are 8 inches. Ghastly mofos, and I hope to one day have the privilege of carrying one.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

Funny story about that guy, his name is Kyle and he's from Georgia (from the info I've found out), and regularly borrows many of those NFA items from a local Class 3 dealer, or rents them when he's at the indoor range (although I hear he does have a decent firearms collection as well).

He's actually said that he often borrows or rents a lot of weapons that he uses, and owns a lot of others. I think he lives outside of Chicago now. Please tell me you mean the Republic of Georgia and not the state of Georgia, because it would be deeply disappointing to find out that he's just acting.

I'm surprised you never knew this. I'm surprised this isn't known by most people who watch his vids, given that it's usually on every page of the comments.

[DaWoad]

more civilized than killing people.

You are a fool. Civilized is a relative term. We could meet a civilization that is millions of years advanced beyond us, but think that slavery and slaughtering people is perfectly civilized. Heck, the Romans were 'civilized' for their time. They outdid every other nation at that time! They still had slaves, gladiatorial games to the death, and much more. To think that you are more civilized is folly.

no, it's a matter of opinion. I am of the opinion that it is more civilized to not kill people with oversized knives than it is to kill people with oversized knives (while simultaneously fallign over in exhaustion from being dehydrated due to dysentery). You are, apparently, not?

[DaWoad]

for basing his entire argument on a source that isn't from where he claimed it was?

I managed to find all sources within a few clicks.

that's impossible. You'd need to have typed a while at the very least.

[GeneralHaNor]

not really, It's just made us civilized.

Civilized is a relative term. Knights thought themselves very civilized. I'm sure that people in 500 years will look at us and think us uncivilized for one reason or another.

"Can you really believe that they use to "rule" one another?"

"Barbarians, the lot of them"

[GeneralHaNor]

agreed and?

Not killing people with sharp bits of metal doesn't make us civilized.

we've simply replaced Horses, Armor and Swords, with Aircraft, Tanks and Guns