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What are your religious beliefs?

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What religion do you belong to?

Christianity
172
30%
Judaism
21
4%
Islam
20
4%
Atheism/Agnosticism (Specify)
247
43%
Hinduism
3
1%
Baha'i Faith
3
1%
Shintoism
2
0%
Buddhism
17
3%
Traditional (African Tribal, Native American Tribal, etc.)
7
1%
Other
79
14%
 
Total votes : 571

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Postby Seperates » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:02 pm

Furious Grandmothers wrote:I came to a sudden realization over dinner. What are the religions that do not place humans on a high pedestal over other animals, plants and organisms? Alternatively, religions whereby humans may be reincarnated into other organism? This is because many simple organisms, especially unicellular ones that reproduce by mitosis, do not actually age and therefore, cannot die of aging. So once you are reincarnated as that form, you are stuck there, forever.

However, I linked this to a rather popular scientific hypothesis that death evolved as a way to prevent some harmful mutations that can occur with too many cell divisions. To put it simply, complex enough organisms that do not die would have their cells divide to the extent that enough mutations occur to lead to the organisms being less fit to survive as compared to organisms which die but accumulate less harmful mutations over their lifetimes to be fit enough to outcompete the "immortal" but unfit organisms. "Immortal" in the sense that one cannot die of aging.

Therefore, I was thinking that IF humans happened to mutate and regress to being immortal, since natural deaths cannot occur, would it be that the concept of afterlife becomes irrelevant? What becomes of the various beliefs of world religions, then?

Also, I was thinking of another point more important than what I mentioned in the third paragraph above. But it was a bit of a mindfuck for me, so I lost the train of thought while typing this verbose post, hopefully I will recall it soon. Obviously, also to do with religion.

Well yes... but then the concept of life would become irrelevant. Any value that life once had would stagnate. The population would either kill itself off due to lack of nutrition, or just stop having children.
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Postby Free Soviets » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:03 pm

Severra wrote:Maybe you do not know, Pacis, but Christianity is not a religion. It can be used used to generalize about a grups of different goups that separated of their religion (also called Christianity, but more on that later), because they disagreed with it, so the went and created their own religion, with the same name.

that's...nonstandard. most people don't claim denominations are different religions, so much as different branches of the same religion.

Severra wrote:Now the root of all (or most, at least) Christian groups is called Roman Catholicism.

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Postby The Halbetan Union » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:04 pm

Seperates wrote:
The Halbetan Union wrote:
When I was a believer, and even now; I think all people have intrinsic worth regardless of their failures, shortcomings or wrong doings. They deserve our pity more so than our scorn.


I cannot believe you can say that with a straight face. Life does not have much intrinsic worth. It is easy to make life. But what value you have can be risen or degraded, based on the actions that you do throughout your life. And to pretend that it is otherwise degrades what little value we are born with into dust. It is the same as original sin...


I don't now, nor have I ever felt the need to degrade ourselves by hating one another, if it helps you to sleep at night by fanning that flame of despise than go ahead and do so, but I know better than that. Life is too short, and too precious to waste it on thoughts of loathing for the "rapists and murderers" among us.

I can agree that live and let live is not appropriate because they're obviously dangerous, nor do I think justice should be denied to the victims; but once they are behind bars and the rest of us safe it's time to offer them pity. Pity because they've thrown their lives away.
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Postby Seperates » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:20 pm

The Halbetan Union wrote:
Seperates wrote:
I cannot believe you can say that with a straight face. Life does not have much intrinsic worth. It is easy to make life. But what value you have can be risen or degraded, based on the actions that you do throughout your life. And to pretend that it is otherwise degrades what little value we are born with into dust. It is the same as original sin...


I don't now, nor have I ever felt the need to degrade ourselves by hating one another, if it helps you to sleep at night by fanning that flame of despise than go ahead and do so, but I know better than that. Life is too short, and too precious to waste it on thoughts of loathing for the "rapists and murderers" among us.

I can agree that live and let live is not appropriate because they're obviously dangerous, nor do I think justice should be denied to the victims; but once they are behind bars and the rest of us safe it's time to offer them pity. Pity because they've thrown their lives away.

I do not hate them. I am disgusted by them. They felt themselves self-important enough to degrade the short lives of their victims. And because of that selfish-ness, they do not deserve the right to enjoy their own lives that they without forthought extorted from their victims.
Perhaps if they realize what the value of life really is, we can give them theirs back. If you cannot hate... then you cannot love...
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Postby The Merchant Republics » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:31 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
The Merchant Republics wrote:No problem, I'm just over-thinking it.

I done much the same thing as you, though I don't like to think I changed anything, reinterpretation perhaps. Though it's more like a revaluation in my case. My views on hell are pretty much the only difference I have with most Churches. And outside of that it's mostly my placing more value on personal excellence than proselyting. Because I personally view personal excellence as the best form of proselytizing and because I really hate when any fellow Christians act preachy.


Okie-dokie.

Ah, preach by example, eh? :lol: Elaborate further, plox. Paint me a picture of your beliefs.


Certainly. But remember you asked for it. ;)

I guess the foundation is essentially the golden rule as it were, "Do onto others as you would have done unto yourself" which is a very strong message of tolerance before anything, if I don't want to be preached to by miltant atheists everyday, then I should never be militant in preaching to an atheist. Though that was definitely what first started my basic religious philosophy, I think it goes deeper than that.

That point of tolerance is essentially something that progressed further beyond from there. Individualism always been fairly important to me, and it occurred to me that it the way people choose things typically is not whether the alternatives will make life worse but whether the change will make their lives better, it seems to me people that preach and tell others that "This and that person are going to hell" aren't doing anything to make Christianity look more appealing.

The way to win people over to your side then, in my opinion is not to be belligerent and tell them that if you don't bad things will happen to you, but instead to focus on the good and more specifically to live life in such a way that other people want to be like you, like in many ways Jesus Christ was said to have done. You can preach sure, but why would anyone listen unless you prove your worth listening to, people tune out rude and ignorant Christians because people don't want to be rude and ignorant Christians but people will listen when your kind to them and when you've done something worth following.

I'm afraid this is a little disjointed. I'm having more trouble than I thought I would describing this. The essential rule is, lead by example, because you can't scare people into faith and if you did would that faith be real? I think faith should be based on love not fear of God, especially in an age where there is more than enough reason to simply ignore him altogether.
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Postby The Halbetan Union » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:33 pm

Seperates wrote:
The Halbetan Union wrote:
I don't now, nor have I ever felt the need to degrade ourselves by hating one another, if it helps you to sleep at night by fanning that flame of despise than go ahead and do so, but I know better than that. Life is too short, and too precious to waste it on thoughts of loathing for the "rapists and murderers" among us.

I can agree that live and let live is not appropriate because they're obviously dangerous, nor do I think justice should be denied to the victims; but once they are behind bars and the rest of us safe it's time to offer them pity. Pity because they've thrown their lives away.

I do not hate them. I am disgusted by them. They felt themselves self-important enough to degrade the short lives of their victims. And because of that selfish-ness, they do not deserve the right to enjoy their own lives that they without forthought extorted from their victims.
Perhaps if they realize what the value of life really is, we can give them theirs back. If you cannot hate... then you cannot love...


They are not given the right to enjoy their lives when they are behind bars, and like you I think if they can be shown to better themselves, and show actual rehabilitation they should be given a second chance. You and I are not so different, I just don't agree that hatred and love are inherently intertwined. Hatred is a wasted emotion. :)
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Neo Art wrote:So let’s get over this obsessive need to categorize things as “not natural” and “natural” in order to somehow laud the “natural”. It’s stupid. Nature will fucking kill you.


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Grenartia wrote: :palm:

Dammit, this is New Orleans we're talking about, not some goofy-assed Yankee suburb.

Oh yeah right.

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Postby The Merchant Republics » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:39 pm

Furious Grandmothers wrote:I came to a sudden realization over dinner. What are the religions that do not place humans on a high pedestal over other animals, plants and organisms? Alternatively, religions whereby humans may be reincarnated into other organism? This is because many simple organisms, especially unicellular ones that reproduce by mitosis, do not actually age and therefore, cannot die of aging. So once you are reincarnated as that form, you are stuck there, forever.


Jainism, is a small but very interesting religion, which essentially preaches just that, I can only imagine it's small because of the absolutely impossible requirements it puts on it's followers, most Eastern Religions lean towards vegetarianism, but to swat a fly or for that matter crush an insect under your toe is a great sin in Jainist beliefs. For that matter even plants, bacteria and rocks have souls to Jains and so Jainists are asked to eat as little as they possibly can and do as little possible harm as they can to the physical world.
I'm fairly certain both Buddhists and Hindus of some schools think that you can be reincarnated as a lesser animal. Though I think the cut-off is typically at the insect level. Where unicellular creatures are simply souless automatons more or less.

Furious Grandmothers wrote:However, I linked this to a rather popular scientific hypothesis that death evolved as a way to prevent some harmful mutations that can occur with too many cell divisions. To put it simply, complex enough organisms that do not die would have their cells divide to the extent that enough mutations occur to lead to the organisms being less fit to survive as compared to organisms which die but accumulate less harmful mutations over their lifetimes to be fit enough to outcompete the "immortal" but unfit organisms. "Immortal" in the sense that one cannot die of aging.

Therefore, I was thinking that IF humans happened to mutate and regress to being immortal, since natural deaths cannot occur, would it be that the concept of afterlife becomes irrelevant? What becomes of the various beliefs of world religions, then?

Also, I was thinking of another point more important than what I mentioned in the third paragraph above. But it was a bit of a mindfuck for me, so I lost the train of thought while typing this verbose post, hopefully I will recall it soon. Obviously, also to do with religion.

Well yes... but then the concept of life would become irrelevant. Any value that life once had would stagnate. The population would either kill itself off due to lack of nutrition, or just stop having children.[/quote]

I can't imagine a point will ever exist where complete immortality exists, at such a time I suppose most religions would focus on the moral advantages of a religion as opposed to the other-worldly benefits. Religion of course is a great social tool, and a wonderful community if you find the right one.
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Postby Furious Grandmothers » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:06 am

The Merchant Republics wrote:
Furious Grandmothers wrote:I came to a sudden realization over dinner. What are the religions that do not place humans on a high pedestal over other animals, plants and organisms? Alternatively, religions whereby humans may be reincarnated into other organism? This is because many simple organisms, especially unicellular ones that reproduce by mitosis, do not actually age and therefore, cannot die of aging. So once you are reincarnated as that form, you are stuck there, forever.


Jainism, is a small but very interesting religion, which essentially preaches just that, I can only imagine it's small because of the absolutely impossible requirements it puts on it's followers, most Eastern Religions lean towards vegetarianism, but to swat a fly or for that matter crush an insect under your toe is a great sin in Jainist beliefs. For that matter even plants, bacteria and rocks have souls to Jains and so Jainists are asked to eat as little as they possibly can and do as little possible harm as they can to the physical world.
I'm fairly certain both Buddhists and Hindus of some schools think that you can be reincarnated as a lesser animal. Though I think the cut-off is typically at the insect level. Where unicellular creatures are simply souless automatons more or less.

Furious Grandmothers wrote:However, I linked this to a rather popular scientific hypothesis that death evolved as a way to prevent some harmful mutations that can occur with too many cell divisions. To put it simply, complex enough organisms that do not die would have their cells divide to the extent that enough mutations occur to lead to the organisms being less fit to survive as compared to organisms which die but accumulate less harmful mutations over their lifetimes to be fit enough to outcompete the "immortal" but unfit organisms. "Immortal" in the sense that one cannot die of aging.

Therefore, I was thinking that IF humans happened to mutate and regress to being immortal, since natural deaths cannot occur, would it be that the concept of afterlife becomes irrelevant? What becomes of the various beliefs of world religions, then?

Also, I was thinking of another point more important than what I mentioned in the third paragraph above. But it was a bit of a mindfuck for me, so I lost the train of thought while typing this verbose post, hopefully I will recall it soon. Obviously, also to do with religion.


I can't imagine a point will ever exist where complete immortality exists, at such a time I suppose most religions would focus on the moral advantages of a religion as opposed to the other-worldly benefits. Religion of course is a great social tool, and a wonderful community if you find the right one.

Just because we can't imagine human immortality as possible doesn't mean it is impossible. Many things that are just hard to imagine for our limited human minds just happen, such as wave-particle duality. The speed at which technology advances is also quite insane. So it may happen one day in the future with eugenics (privately-run, state-run or otherwise) or by artificial selection, in a way when more people prefer to marry immortal mutant spouses rather than mortal spouses etc, I don't know and I can't imagine well enough.

As Seperates mentioned, the concept of life would be starkly different from how each of us choose to perceive our lives today. But humans are tenacious and I believe we will almost always find a way, no matter what happens to us. We will reframe life in a new context and live on. And somehow solve the potential overpopulation problem by building colonies on Mars :P My point is just that, when you take away death, what becomes of religion? Because it seems to me that the afterlife is a rather important concept in many religions. So it is very true that religion can continue on as a moral compass in a world moving at a blindingly fast pace where one can easily lose oneself.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:05 am

Personally, though I have a lot of faith in Catholicism, I have found myself very interested and attracted to in several concepts that other religions believe in or advocate for.
For example:
-Karma
-Enlightenment (Nirvana) as the objective of life
-The idea that time is not linear but an endless cycle

Its not enough to make me abandon Catholicism, but it is enough to adopt some of this beliefs as my own.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:06 am

Speranzia wrote:Roman Catholic by practice and tradition, but I vary in my faith. Most of my moral outlines and my deepest held beliefs, however, are from the New Testament. Loving those around you - your neighbors, your family, your friends, your enemies, yourself, and God included - is the most important thing, though, and what all my beliefs hinge on.


That is what I believe in as well...but many "Christians" apparently only pay attention to the Old Testament and all its "Sodom and Gomorra"s and "Adam and Eve"s.
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:02 am

I guess the foundation is essentially the golden rule as it were, "Do onto others as you would have done unto yourself" which is a very strong message of tolerance before anything, if I don't want to be preached to by miltant atheists everyday, then I should never be militant in preaching to an atheist. Though that was definitely what first started my basic religious philosophy, I think it goes deeper than that.


:clap: I'd go further than that though. I hold that putting yourself even on a par with others is immoral. The only moral action is to do something that benefits you only when it benefits other people more than it disadvantages them. (Yes, this has lots and lots of implications. No, I don't hold myself to be moral, nowhere near).


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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:57 am

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Shaoyuan wrote:Lifelong convictions based on nothing, less than nothing. What you nwould like to be true. Sickening.

Anymore weak than living a life without convictions?

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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:58 am

Samuraikoku wrote:I would rather have people remember me after I'm dead (and if possible, that they do whatever I might have inspired them to do), than experience an afterlife, either good or bad.

Shouldn't you first work on having people remember you while you're still alive? :unsure: :p
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:59 am

Lucent Dawn wrote:
Seperates wrote:*shakes head* Yes I did... The problem with the 'New Age' inventions is that it does not help to define what is acceptable "spiritual fufillment." And if a pedophiles version of spiritual fufillment is raping young children, according to their philosophy, what right do we have to deny them that?

And I'm not even going to start on Islam's disgusting version of "spiritual fufillment"...

A pedophile is not receiving spiritual fulfillment.

How do you know?
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Postby Herpusderpus » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:08 pm

Well, duh, atheist. I have never believed, although there have been times I wished I could. My mother is a conservative Christian that sings in the church choir and goes to church a couple of times a month, my father is non religious. He and my elder brother seem to have gone soft though from what I could tell from the mandatory Christmas conversations, by believing that there might actually be something to spiritual healing. I think they may just have had too much to drink and had become "philosophical". :p
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Postby Germanic Templars » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:09 pm

Liriena wrote:Personally, though I have a lot of faith in Catholicism, I have found myself very interested and attracted to in several concepts that other religions believe in or advocate for.
For example:
-Karma
-Enlightenment (Nirvana) as the objective of life
-The idea that time is not linear but an endless cycle

Its not enough to make me abandon Catholicism, but it is enough to adopt some of this beliefs as my own.


I am Catholic (Roman Catholic to be exact) and I follow some of these practices because I found ways to connect them to the belief.

  • INTP
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  • X=3.13, Y=2.41
  • Supports the Blue


I support Capitalism do you? If so, put this in your sig.

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Postby Unhealthy2 » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:55 pm

Liriena wrote:-The idea that time is not linear but an endless cycle


What does this even mean?
Cool shit here, also here.

Conservation of energy, momentum, and angular momentum, logical consistency, quantum field theory, general respect for life and other low entropy formations, pleasure, minimizing the suffering of humanity and maximizing its well-being, equality of opportunity, individual liberty, knowledge, truth, honesty, aesthetics, imagination, joy, philosophy, entertainment, and the humanities.

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Postby Samuraikoku » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:19 pm

Unhealthy2 wrote:
Liriena wrote:-The idea that time is not linear but an endless cycle


What does this even mean?


Has to do with reincarnation, I believe.

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Postby Keronians » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:20 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:
Apollonesia wrote:It'd be fabulous if you could make up your mind.


I don't know if there is a God and I don't really care either. But in my belief if there is a God I think it's the Christian God. Have you got a problem with that?


So, apathetic agnostic, right?
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Postby Samuraikoku » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:23 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:I would rather have people remember me after I'm dead (and if possible, that they do whatever I might have inspired them to do), than experience an afterlife, either good or bad.

Shouldn't you first work on having people remember you while you're still alive? :unsure: :p


Heroes are only remembered after death. 8)

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Postby Osthia » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:28 pm

I'm Roman Catholic, and nothing is ever going to change that. Long life to His Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI :)

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Postby Qara-jin » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:30 pm

Publicly a Catholic, privately a Tengriist.

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Postby Secular Sweden » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:30 pm

God is dead. Richard Dawkins punched him in the halo.

Now, all our hope rests with Jebus, who is fighting the Holy Spirit for the Throne in Heaven.

Meanwhile, Mithras and Zoroaster take bets from a laughing crowd of Heathen Gods.
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You couldn’t be here if stars hadn’t exploded. Because the elements, the carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, iron, all the things that matter for evolution weren’t created at the beginning of time. They were created in the nuclear furnaces of stars. And the only way they could get into your body is if the stars were kind enough to explode.

So forget Jesus. The stars died so you could be here today.

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Postby Mosasauria » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:30 pm

Osthia wrote:I'm Roman Catholic, and nothing is ever going to change that. Long life to His Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI :)

Wait, do you worship him, or Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit? :blink:
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