by History land » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:09 pm
by Avenio » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:14 pm
by Samatolian City-States » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:14 pm
by History land » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:16 pm
Avenio wrote:I have an interesting question for you. Have you ever thought there might be more to life than simply accumulating wealth? Art, philosophy, science, all of these things should trump the need for material goods and wealth under any circumstance.
Mind you, thats just my opinion.
by Maurepas » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:16 pm
by New Kereptica » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:16 pm
History land wrote:Avenio wrote:I have an interesting question for you. Have you ever thought there might be more to life than simply accumulating wealth? Art, philosophy, science, all of these things should trump the need for material goods and wealth under any circumstance.
Mind you, thats just my opinion.
But Science Philosophy and Art are all material things
Blouman Empire wrote:Natural is not nature.
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Umm hmm.... mind if I siggy that as a reminder to those who think that it is cool to shove their bat-shit crazy atheist beliefs on those of us who actually have a clue?
Teccor wrote:You're actually arguing with Kereptica? It's like arguing with a far-Left, militantly atheist brick wall.
Bluth Corporation wrote:No. A free market literally has zero bubbles.
JJ Place wrote:I have a few more pressing matters to attend to right now; I'll be back later this evening to continue my one-man against the world struggle.
Mercator Terra wrote: Mental illness is a myth.
by New Kereptica » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:17 pm
Blouman Empire wrote:Natural is not nature.
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Umm hmm.... mind if I siggy that as a reminder to those who think that it is cool to shove their bat-shit crazy atheist beliefs on those of us who actually have a clue?
Teccor wrote:You're actually arguing with Kereptica? It's like arguing with a far-Left, militantly atheist brick wall.
Bluth Corporation wrote:No. A free market literally has zero bubbles.
JJ Place wrote:I have a few more pressing matters to attend to right now; I'll be back later this evening to continue my one-man against the world struggle.
Mercator Terra wrote: Mental illness is a myth.
by Samatolian City-States » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:17 pm
New Kereptica wrote:History land wrote:Avenio wrote:I have an interesting question for you. Have you ever thought there might be more to life than simply accumulating wealth? Art, philosophy, science, all of these things should trump the need for material goods and wealth under any circumstance.
Mind you, thats just my opinion.
But Science Philosophy and Art are all material things
No.
by Neu California » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:17 pm
History land wrote:Avenio wrote:I have an interesting question for you. Have you ever thought there might be more to life than simply accumulating wealth? Art, philosophy, science, all of these things should trump the need for material goods and wealth under any circumstance.
Mind you, thats just my opinion.
But Science Philosophy and Art are all material things
by History land » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:20 pm
Samatolian City-States wrote:God, you won't give it up, will you? Just accept that as long as there is power, there WILL be corruption. NO system in the world is completely honest. Why do people kill for money? Why do people steal? Why do people defraud? How do you explain Madoff's actions? The actions of the Church of Scientology, a cult ruthlessly taking the life savings of those who worked hard?
Power is the evil, and power exists in all governments. Individualism can be just as easily crushed by a capitalist society as a communist one. Now, see past the capitalist rhetoric you're so mindlessly spouting, and enlighten yourself.
by History land » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:21 pm
Neu California wrote:History land wrote:Avenio wrote:I have an interesting question for you. Have you ever thought there might be more to life than simply accumulating wealth? Art, philosophy, science, all of these things should trump the need for material goods and wealth under any circumstance.
Mind you, thats just my opinion.
But Science Philosophy and Art are all material things
Philosophy is material?
And this thread will not end well
by New Kereptica » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:22 pm
History land wrote:Samatolian City-States wrote:God, you won't give it up, will you? Just accept that as long as there is power, there WILL be corruption. NO system in the world is completely honest. Why do people kill for money? Why do people steal? Why do people defraud? How do you explain Madoff's actions? The actions of the Church of Scientology, a cult ruthlessly taking the life savings of those who worked hard?
Power is the evil, and power exists in all governments. Individualism can be just as easily crushed by a capitalist society as a communist one. Now, see past the capitalist rhetoric you're so mindlessly spouting, and enlighten yourself.
One I will never give up fighting gor what I belive in
Two I never said they were never any corrpupt people. Maddoff is a crimminal he wish to defy reality and so he sufferd for it. Captialism supports individualims and will only be crushed under a mixed economy.
Madoff is a looter who destoyed his abllity to reason and to work and to think. People steal because they refuse to think and work. People Kill for money because they can not think same goes for anyone that uses fraud.
But I can tell you one thing in turue captialism where there is no regulations. Fraud and Theif wold happen less than in a Communist or Socialist society.
Blouman Empire wrote:Natural is not nature.
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Umm hmm.... mind if I siggy that as a reminder to those who think that it is cool to shove their bat-shit crazy atheist beliefs on those of us who actually have a clue?
Teccor wrote:You're actually arguing with Kereptica? It's like arguing with a far-Left, militantly atheist brick wall.
Bluth Corporation wrote:No. A free market literally has zero bubbles.
JJ Place wrote:I have a few more pressing matters to attend to right now; I'll be back later this evening to continue my one-man against the world struggle.
Mercator Terra wrote: Mental illness is a myth.
by Avenio » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:23 pm
History land wrote:Avenio wrote:I have an interesting question for you. Have you ever thought there might be more to life than simply accumulating wealth? Art, philosophy, science, all of these things should trump the need for material goods and wealth under any circumstance.
Mind you, thats just my opinion.
But Science Philosophy and Art are all material things
by History land » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:23 pm
New Kereptica wrote:History land wrote:Samatolian City-States wrote:God, you won't give it up, will you? Just accept that as long as there is power, there WILL be corruption. NO system in the world is completely honest. Why do people kill for money? Why do people steal? Why do people defraud? How do you explain Madoff's actions? The actions of the Church of Scientology, a cult ruthlessly taking the life savings of those who worked hard?
Power is the evil, and power exists in all governments. Individualism can be just as easily crushed by a capitalist society as a communist one. Now, see past the capitalist rhetoric you're so mindlessly spouting, and enlighten yourself.
One I will never give up fighting gor what I belive in
Two I never said they were never any corrpupt people. Maddoff is a crimminal he wish to defy reality and so he sufferd for it. Captialism supports individualims and will only be crushed under a mixed economy.
Madoff is a looter who destoyed his abllity to reason and to work and to think. People steal because they refuse to think and work. People Kill for money because they can not think same goes for anyone that uses fraud.
But I can tell you one thing in turue captialism where there is no regulations. Fraud and Theif wold happen less than in a Communist or Socialist society.
In a world where money is absolute, what are more logical crimes than fraud and theft?
by New Kereptica » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:24 pm
History land wrote:I have you not noticed it that moast of the Philosopical ideas have to deal with being on earth that means it has to do with materalistic goods.
Blouman Empire wrote:Natural is not nature.
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Umm hmm.... mind if I siggy that as a reminder to those who think that it is cool to shove their bat-shit crazy atheist beliefs on those of us who actually have a clue?
Teccor wrote:You're actually arguing with Kereptica? It's like arguing with a far-Left, militantly atheist brick wall.
Bluth Corporation wrote:No. A free market literally has zero bubbles.
JJ Place wrote:I have a few more pressing matters to attend to right now; I'll be back later this evening to continue my one-man against the world struggle.
Mercator Terra wrote: Mental illness is a myth.
by History land » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:24 pm
Avenio wrote:History land wrote:Avenio wrote:I have an interesting question for you. Have you ever thought there might be more to life than simply accumulating wealth? Art, philosophy, science, all of these things should trump the need for material goods and wealth under any circumstance.
Mind you, thats just my opinion.
But Science Philosophy and Art are all material things
No, they're abstractions. Art, Science and Philosophy can be created by anyone, anywhere, whether they're a CEO or a ditch digger, and whether they are in an artist's studio or simply arranging pebbles in the dirt. These things are not tied to the world of economics, no matter what the capitalists try to make everyone believe with the barbaric system of patents and copyrights.
by Samatolian City-States » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:25 pm
History land wrote:Samatolian City-States wrote:God, you won't give it up, will you? Just accept that as long as there is power, there WILL be corruption. NO system in the world is completely honest. Why do people kill for money? Why do people steal? Why do people defraud? How do you explain Madoff's actions? The actions of the Church of Scientology, a cult ruthlessly taking the life savings of those who worked hard?
Power is the evil, and power exists in all governments. Individualism can be just as easily crushed by a capitalist society as a communist one. Now, see past the capitalist rhetoric you're so mindlessly spouting, and enlighten yourself.
One I will never give up fighting gor what I belive in
Two I never said they were never any corrpupt people. Maddoff is a crimminal he wish to defy reality and so he sufferd for it. Captialism supports individualims and will only be crushed under a mixed economy.
Madoff is a looter who destoyed his abllity to reason and to work and to think. People steal because they refuse to think and work. People Kill for money because they can not think same goes for anyone that uses fraud.
But I can tell you one thing in turue captialism where there is no regulations. Fraud and Theif wold happen less than in a Communist or Socialist society.
by History land » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:25 pm
New Kereptica wrote:History land wrote:I have you not noticed it that moast of the Philosopical ideas have to deal with being on earth that means it has to do with materalistic goods.
Have you ever picked up a philosophy? Ever held one in your hand? Philosophy is a field of ideas, the same with science and art. All can have some connections to the physical world, such as scientific experiments or paintings, but in essence, they are thought alone.
by New Kereptica » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:26 pm
History land wrote:Because wealth must be created by work by honesty. Fraud and Theif eliminate the abllity to work and to think and to be honest. Those crimes are not rational or logical to a moral society.
Blouman Empire wrote:Natural is not nature.
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Umm hmm.... mind if I siggy that as a reminder to those who think that it is cool to shove their bat-shit crazy atheist beliefs on those of us who actually have a clue?
Teccor wrote:You're actually arguing with Kereptica? It's like arguing with a far-Left, militantly atheist brick wall.
Bluth Corporation wrote:No. A free market literally has zero bubbles.
JJ Place wrote:I have a few more pressing matters to attend to right now; I'll be back later this evening to continue my one-man against the world struggle.
Mercator Terra wrote: Mental illness is a myth.
by Samatolian City-States » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:26 pm
History land wrote:Art is creaded by materials,Science is created by materials, Philosophy is associated with living on earth which is tied to the material goods.
by Barzan » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:26 pm
by New Kereptica » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:27 pm
History land wrote:New Kereptica wrote:History land wrote:I have you not noticed it that moast of the Philosopical ideas have to deal with being on earth that means it has to do with materalistic goods.
Have you ever picked up a philosophy? Ever held one in your hand? Philosophy is a field of ideas, the same with science and art. All can have some connections to the physical world, such as scientific experiments or paintings, but in essence, they are thought alone.
Which have to do with the materalistic world we live in
Blouman Empire wrote:Natural is not nature.
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Umm hmm.... mind if I siggy that as a reminder to those who think that it is cool to shove their bat-shit crazy atheist beliefs on those of us who actually have a clue?
Teccor wrote:You're actually arguing with Kereptica? It's like arguing with a far-Left, militantly atheist brick wall.
Bluth Corporation wrote:No. A free market literally has zero bubbles.
JJ Place wrote:I have a few more pressing matters to attend to right now; I'll be back later this evening to continue my one-man against the world struggle.
Mercator Terra wrote: Mental illness is a myth.
by History land » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:29 pm
Samatolian City-States wrote:History land wrote:Samatolian City-States wrote:God, you won't give it up, will you? Just accept that as long as there is power, there WILL be corruption. NO system in the world is completely honest. Why do people kill for money? Why do people steal? Why do people defraud? How do you explain Madoff's actions? The actions of the Church of Scientology, a cult ruthlessly taking the life savings of those who worked hard?
Power is the evil, and power exists in all governments. Individualism can be just as easily crushed by a capitalist society as a communist one. Now, see past the capitalist rhetoric you're so mindlessly spouting, and enlighten yourself.
One I will never give up fighting gor what I belive in
Two I never said they were never any corrpupt people. Maddoff is a crimminal he wish to defy reality and so he sufferd for it. Captialism supports individualims and will only be crushed under a mixed economy.
Madoff is a looter who destoyed his abllity to reason and to work and to think. People steal because they refuse to think and work. People Kill for money because they can not think same goes for anyone that uses fraud.
But I can tell you one thing in turue captialism where there is no regulations. Fraud and Theif wold happen less than in a Communist or Socialist society.
Damn it, you're just supporting the corporations' exploitation of the people. How individualistic is factory work? Or sitting in a cubicle all day? Or being one in a hundred thousand suit monkeys, plotting and planning the fate of your small groups of pathetic underlings? Boy, when you grow to be older, you will understand the realities of the world you inhabit. Naivete will not save you.
Now, don't take me the wrong way. A Collectivist government only takes the same problem out of the hands of the corporations and into the hands of the government. You'll still slave away, and get nothing for it.
by Doichlogs » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:29 pm
New Kereptica wrote:History land wrote:
Have you ever picked up a philosophy? Ever held one in your hand? Philosophy is a field of ideas, the same with science and art. All can have some connections to the physical world, such as scientific experiments or paintings, but in essence, they are thought alone.
Which have to do with the materalistic world we live in
by New Kereptica » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:30 pm
History land wrote:Corporations do not exploiate people. people who work for corporations have done it voluntarly and for mutual benifit. Factory work is individualistic because you have a job to do in the factory which is your responsiblity. You have a job to do in a cubical which is your responsblity.
Plus nobody can determin the life a person will live except the individual in that life. Plus in a corporation or in a factory you are trading labor for wages.
Humans who work are traders in all jobs they trade. Money for objects Labor for Money Humans who work are traders
Blouman Empire wrote:Natural is not nature.
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Umm hmm.... mind if I siggy that as a reminder to those who think that it is cool to shove their bat-shit crazy atheist beliefs on those of us who actually have a clue?
Teccor wrote:You're actually arguing with Kereptica? It's like arguing with a far-Left, militantly atheist brick wall.
Bluth Corporation wrote:No. A free market literally has zero bubbles.
JJ Place wrote:I have a few more pressing matters to attend to right now; I'll be back later this evening to continue my one-man against the world struggle.
Mercator Terra wrote: Mental illness is a myth.
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