Your stance on gay marriage

[Moon Cows]

But im a christian. so people remember that.

I know a few other gay Christians. Cool people.

Actually, they are lying when they define themselves as Christians. If you are a non-repenting sinner, you cannot preach to others the Word of God. It would be hypocritical. Homosexuals are not Christians, because they do not follow the Bible.

[Spanionte]

but im not gay you.... i wont say it so i wont get banned. EVERYONE KID IS REALLY THE GAY ONE TRYING TO TELL A LIE ABOUT ME WHEN ON FIRST PAGE HE SAID: gay ppl getting married is good so then i called him gay and this argument came up!!!

[Grave_n_idle]

I know a few other gay Christians. Cool people.

Actually, they are lying when they define themselves as Christians. If you are a non-repenting sinner, you cannot preach to others the Word of God. It would be hypocritical. Homosexuals are not Christians, because they do not follow the Bible.

All have sinned and fallen short of god.

Plank. Eye. Bothered.

[Tubbsalot]

I know a few other gay Christians. Cool people.

Actually, they are lying when they define themselves as Christians. If you are a non-repenting sinner, you cannot preach to others the Word of God. It would be hypocritical. Homosexuals are not Christians, because they do not follow the Bible.

Of course they're Christians. They follow the teachings of Christ. Which I could point out you don't appear to, with all this casting of stones.

[Moon Cows]

When arguing matters of opinion, it's easy to stray from facts. Sometimes, there are no facts to stray from. Morals, religion, opinion in general, cannot be debated with facts. That's why no one wins in these arguments.

Ah, you see, there's your mistake - you're under the impression that this is a moral, religious, or opinion-based debate.

It's not.

The Constitution guarantees equality before the law. The institution of marriage is not being equally observed in the eyes of the law.

The Constitution is the arbiter.


Thus half of this debate is fact-based - marriage WILL become equal, because the Constitution demands it - and the other half is based in opinion and prejudice. The former does not have to allow the latter any respect.

You're saying that polygamy, beastiality, and the like should be allowed? You're misinterpreting the Constitution. If it's purpose was clearly stated, then homosexuals would already have the right to marry.

[Tubbsalot]

but im not gay you.... i wont say it so i wont get banned. EVERYONE KID IS REALLY THE GAY ONE TRYING TO TELL A LIE ABOUT ME WHEN ON FIRST PAGE HE SAID: gay ppl getting married is good so then i called him gay and this argument came up!!!

Oh, hush up. We all know a gay when we see them, and you are a huge raging gay. There's nothing wrong with that.

[Arumdaum]

I know a few other gay Christians. Cool people.

Actually, they are lying when they define themselves as Christians. If you are a non-repenting sinner, you cannot preach to others the Word of God. It would be hypocritical. Homosexuals are not Christians, because they do not follow the Bible.

Then I guess robbers, liars, cheaters, etc. all aren't Christian.

Also women that talk in church aren't Christian either. Also everyone that doesn't wear clothes all made from one thread, and farmers and gardeners that plant two types of crops in the same field.

[Venaly]

Racism is not gone in the north.

It isn't? That's pretty bad. I live in Western Maryland, which is as close as one can get to West Virginia without marrying your cousin, and racism here is pretty much dead.

>.< I resent that!!! I live in West Virginia and have for most of my life!!! And btw, more people are open-minded in West Virginia than they are in Maryland, from my experience, since I live in The Eastern Panhandle and go to college in the southern most part of West Virginia. Also in regards to racism...remember that WV broke away from Virginia because they were against racism... And it's illegal to marry your cousin here, fyi oh and to correct you... maryland does allow people to marry their cousins http://www.cousincouples.com/?page=states, " which is as close as one can get to West Virginia without marrying your cousin" i think you're as close to WV as a person can get while marrying your cousin



As for gay marriage, I think that everyone has the right to be happy. If marrying the person that you love is what makes you happy, you should have the right to do it. As a bisexual, I would like to think that I should be allowed to marry a woman if I choose to... Though my male fiance might have something against that....

[Tubbsalot]

If it's purpose was clearly stated, then homosexuals would already have the right to marry.

Your argument is "no, they don't have the right to marry now, so they never should because everything is perfect right now"?

[Arumdaum]

but im not gay you.... i wont say it so i wont get banned. EVERYONE KID IS REALLY THE GAY ONE TRYING TO TELL A LIE ABOUT ME WHEN ON FIRST PAGE HE SAID: gay ppl getting married is good so then i called him gay and this argument came up!!!

Saying that it's good that gay people are getting married absolutely does not mean you're gay.

[Spanionte]

but im not gay you.... i wont say it so i wont get banned. EVERYONE KID IS REALLY THE GAY ONE TRYING TO TELL A LIE ABOUT ME WHEN ON FIRST PAGE HE SAID: gay ppl getting married is good so then i called him gay and this argument came up!!!

Oh, hush up. We all know a gay when we see them, and you are a huge raging gay. There's nothing wrong with that.

God knows im not gay plus i always tell the truth!!!

[Moon Cows]

If it's purpose was clearly stated, then homosexuals would already have the right to marry.

Your argument is "no, they don't have the right to marry now, so they never should because everything is perfect right now"?

Precisely. .

[Tubbsalot]

God knows im not gay plus i always tell the truth!!!

Oh, we all know you're not gay.

[Spanionte]

you finally noticed.

[Ian and Jackson]

Oh, hush up. We all know a gay when we see them, and you are a huge raging gay. There's nothing wrong with that.

God knows im not gay plus i always tell the truth!!!

Its like that riddle where there are two doors, one that always lies, one that always tells the truth, and both of them are really really really gay.

[Tubbsalot]

Precisely. .

...

Are you joking?

I mean, I gave you that point of view jokingly. I assumed you'd flip-flop. But you think everything is 100% perfect right now? You realise that is factually incorrect, and if you subscribe to that viewpoint, you are factually incorrect?

[Grave_n_idle]

You're saying that polygamy, beastiality, and the like should be allowed?

No.

You're misinterpreting the Constitution.

I'm not 'interpreting' it, at all.

If it's purpose was clearly stated, then homosexuals would already have the right to marry.

Slavery. Emancipation. Suffrage. Anti-miscegenation. Equal Opportunity Employment. etc.

American history says that, even if it's blatant in the Constitution, it might take a while to materialise in the real world.

[Tubbsalot]

you finally noticed.

You see this face? That means "if you want to keep it quiet, then okay".

[Marlboro Kid]

No, he’s not trolling.

Actually many Christians and Muslims consider homosexuality as a sin and immoral.
You have to respect their worldview if you demand the same from them.

You have to respect people's rights to believe something, no matter how stupid. That doesn't mean you have to accept their opinions as fact, or allow their opinions to have any impact on social policy.

If a majority in a country bans gay marriage then that's the will of the people. It's doesn't matter if they are right or wrong.
Like I see it, politicians shouldn't control issues about morals & ethics, but the people should.

How difficult is it to manage a referendum?

[Samuraikoku]

Slavery. Emancipation.

American history says that, even if it's blatant in the Constitution, it might take a while to materialise in the real world.

And might even have to be a civil war before it happens.

[Grave_n_idle]

You have to respect people's rights to believe something, no matter how stupid. That doesn't mean you have to accept their opinions as fact, or allow their opinions to have any impact on social policy.

If a majority in a country bans gay marriage then that's the will of the people. It's doesn't matter if they are right or wrong.
Like I see it, politicians shouldn't control issues about morals & ethics, but the people should.

How difficult is it to manage a referendum?

The Constitution was designed, in large part, specifically to avoid that.

[EvilDarkMagicians]

God knows im not gay plus i always tell the truth!!!

Its like that riddle where there are two doors, one that always lies, one that always tells the truth, and both of them are really really really gay.

[Grave_n_idle]

Slavery. Emancipation.

American history says that, even if it's blatant in the Constitution, it might take a while to materialise in the real world.

And might even have to be a civil war before it happens.

Indeed. And resistance even after the fact might still be so strong that an expansion amendment has to be added to the Constitution specifically to codify what was already there.

[Moon Cows]

You're saying that polygamy, beastiality, and the like should be allowed?

No.

You're misinterpreting the Constitution.

I'm not 'interpreting' it, at all.

If it's purpose was clearly stated, then homosexuals would already have the right to marry.

Slavery. Emancipation. Suffrage. Anti-miscegenation. Equal Opportunity Employment. etc.

American history says that, even if it's blatant in the Constitution, it might take a while to materialise in the real world.

You can't compare things morally incorrect to something that, in my opinion, homosexuals have a choice in. There is NO evidence that homosexuality is biological or genetic, so I have the right to say that I believe it is psychological. Do not attack me for saying so.

[Grave_n_idle]

No.



I'm not 'interpreting' it, at all.



Slavery. Emancipation. Suffrage. Anti-miscegenation. Equal Opportunity Employment. etc.

American history says that, even if it's blatant in the Constitution, it might take a while to materialise in the real world.

You can't compare things morally incorrect to something that, in my opinion, homosexuals have a choice in. There is NO evidence that homosexuality is biological or genetic, so I have the right to say that I believe it is psychological. Do not attack me for saying so.

Complete failure to address the post. Well done.