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by Niur » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:52 am
by Christian Democrats » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:53 am
Euroslavia wrote:Damn those gays, with their superior fashion sense, their impeccable work ethic, and their incredibly amazing ability to dance to any song and make it look good.
Placeburg wrote:What do you think about gay marriage?
Leo Tolstoy wrote:Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.
by Mektar » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:56 am
by Franco-Philia » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:56 am
Christian Democrats wrote:Euroslavia wrote:Damn those gays, with their superior fashion sense, their impeccable work ethic, and their incredibly amazing ability to dance to any song and make it look good.
(Poor quality video)Placeburg wrote:What do you think about gay marriage?
Since when did marriage become a right? Last time I checked, civil marriage was a privilege conferred by the state on heterosexual couples to promote procreation (i.e., continuation of the state itself).
by Franco-Philia » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:58 am
by Ceannairceach » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:58 am
by Christian Democrats » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:59 am
Franco-Philia wrote:Christian Democrats wrote:Since when did marriage become a right? Last time I checked, civil marriage was a privilege conferred by the state on heterosexual couples to promote procreation (i.e., continuation of the state itself).
Marriage confers with it many rights, including rights that have been laid out by our country (speaking from the U.S. here) regarding taxes, visitation, final wishes/living wills, etc.
And the state has never made procreation a requirement for marriage. If that were true sterile women and men would all be spouseless. As it stands, that is not the case.
Leo Tolstoy wrote:Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.
by Ceannairceach » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:00 pm
Christian Democrats wrote:Franco-Philia wrote:
Marriage confers with it many rights, including rights that have been laid out by our country (speaking from the U.S. here) regarding taxes, visitation, final wishes/living wills, etc.
And the state has never made procreation a requirement for marriage. If that were true sterile women and men would all be spouseless. As it stands, that is not the case.
Fertility is a matter of privacy, which is why it would be wrong for the state to preclude sterile couples from obtaining civil marriages.
by Franco-Philia » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:00 pm
Christian Democrats wrote:Franco-Philia wrote:
Marriage confers with it many rights, including rights that have been laid out by our country (speaking from the U.S. here) regarding taxes, visitation, final wishes/living wills, etc.
And the state has never made procreation a requirement for marriage. If that were true sterile women and men would all be spouseless. As it stands, that is not the case.FertilitySexuality is a matter of privacy, which is why it would be wrong for the state to precludesterilegay and lesbiancouples from obtaining civil marriages.
by Ifreann » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:00 pm
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I'm already happily married, thanks.
by Mektar » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:03 pm
by Franco-Philia » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:04 pm
by Christian Democrats » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:06 pm
Leo Tolstoy wrote:Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.
by Niur » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:06 pm
by Franco-Philia » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:08 pm
by Christian Democrats » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:09 pm
Leo Tolstoy wrote:Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.
by Ifreann » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:10 pm
by Niur » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:11 pm
by Free Pangea » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:13 pm
Vote Stewart Alexander for US president in 2012!
by Christian Democrats » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:13 pm
Franco-Philia wrote:Christian Democrats wrote:If you're trying to marry, then sexual orientation really isn't that private (unless you're a closeted homosexual marrying someone of the opposite sex, which really isn't that uncommon).
What I meant is, it is no business of the state to judge consenting adults who are not harming one another. That is what is private about it. Being open about your sexuality doesn't mean you talk about it ALL the time and that it is the only defining characteristic about you.
Leo Tolstoy wrote:Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.
by Franco-Philia » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:15 pm
Christian Democrats wrote:Franco-Philia wrote:
What I meant is, it is no business of the state to judge consenting adults who are not harming one another. That is what is private about it. Being open about your sexuality doesn't mean you talk about it ALL the time and that it is the only defining characteristic about you.
I agree. The state should not judge relationships between (sometimes among) consenting adults. I simply don't understand why legal recognition of those relationships is necessary. Maybe the best compromise would be eliminating civil marriage all together (though, it's highly unlikely).
by Distruzio » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:16 pm
Euroslavia wrote:Placeburg wrote:What do you think about gay marriage? Personally gays annoy the living crap out of me, but I also think that it's plain wrong For the government to decide who you can and cannot marry.
Damn those gays, with their superior fashion sense, their impeccable work ethic, and their incredibly amazing ability to dance to any song and make it look good.
by Niur » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:17 pm
Christian Democrats wrote:Franco-Philia wrote:
What I meant is, it is no business of the state to judge consenting adults who are not harming one another. That is what is private about it. Being open about your sexuality doesn't mean you talk about it ALL the time and that it is the only defining characteristic about you.
I agree. The state should not judge relationships between (sometimes among) consenting adults. I simply don't understand why legal recognition of those relationships is necessary. Maybe the best compromise would be eliminating civil marriage all together (though, it's highly unlikely).
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