Why does the world hate the U.S.?

[The Black Forrest]

And that does show alot considering your last president was BUSH. Probably the worst president in the last 50 years.

It's generally best to not judge a President for a few decades afterwards actually. Something could happen within the next few decades that dramatically changes the way Bush is seen.

Ya big silly.

They said we won't be able to judge him for 100-150 years.

That way all the people who were around will be dead!

[Caninope]

Fucking electoral college

Activist judges.

I have a problem with the Supreme Court intervening in such a politically charged matter, but it could certainly be argued that the court was not being "activist" at the time.

If anything, they were upholding a very long line of 14th Amendment precedents. Not exactly "activist" but more "political".

[Zonolia]

Another reason people hate the US is because it doesn't deserve it. The it I mean is the US doesn't deserve being a superpower, it has been around for only 250 years very young in history times...other nations such as japan and england have been around forever and they aren't powerful...why does a world newcomer get power? and not the peoples who have been around for millenia?

Again forum people never grasp the point of any post...what I mean is America=new nation, thus it shouldn't be extremely powerful, old nations=old nation thus it should be more powerful cause of time...all-in-all peoples of old nations say the USA is what happened when father time screw you over.

[Caninope]

Maybe it has more to do with the fact that he is seen as the most socialist president since FDR and is seen, by many, as a muslim? Racism may play a role, but I doubt that it is the only reason for hating him. He's a target b/c he's the biggest target there is during a time of increasing uncertainty.

See, I hear the complaints about his 'socialism' and his religion - but I'm not convinced either of those arguments even exist if he's white. Obamacare, for example, resembles Romneycare. The 'Muslim' thing has no basis. SO why are both accusations leveled at THIS president? What's so different about this one?

In case you didn't notice, the GOP base was up in arms for a while about Romneycare.

[Sibirsky]

Another reason people hate the US is because it doesn't deserve it. The it I mean is the US doesn't deserve being a superpower, it has been around for only 250 years very young in history times...other nations such as japan and england have been around forever and they aren't powerful...why does a world newcomer get power? and not the peoples who have been around for millenia?

Again forum people never grasp the point of any post...what I mean is America=new nation, thus it shouldn't be extremely powerful, old nations=old nation thus it should be more powerful cause of time...all-in-all peoples of old nations say the USA is what happened when father time screw you over.

How is that relevant?

[Indig0]

of course many people would hate the u.s. if the u.s. has invaded their country and tried to control it.
but for other countries that haven't been controlled or invaded by the u.s., they would hate the u.s. probably because we appear to be rich, fat, spoiled, ignorant, immoral people compared to them. people get these ideas from movies/tv, but it's not really that far from reality. especially since american viewers conform to their own tv shows/movies. i live in america, but i hate most of the people in it for the reasons previously stated. and ya know what, if other countries were as rich as we were, then their governments and citizens would be just as bad. let's face it, most of humanity sucks.
and actually, i think japan no longer holds a grudge against the u.s. they have tried to emulate the u.s. as much as possible.

[Man eating vetegables]

It depends on the adjectives used......

hmm when I say I hate fascists how am I rascist?

I think everyone hates america because it is the fastest growing nation in the world. it has power not just by itself but with its allies and it is strong. and when it comes to war its suprising we havnt lost any sure if you count vietnam but we really just left. some dont hate us but envy us for our economy like third world countries. we get food on the table a, place to sleep, and thats why they envy us sure america has had its hard times but we have recovered like the great depression and even when we slaughtered those native americans every country has hard times like germany and the nazis everyone makes mistakes but right now america owes people money such as china and making more money is not going to help us its just going to bring down how much are money is actuilly worth and these stimulas plan arnt helping to much eather.

[Grave_n_idle]

Activist judges.

I have a problem with the Supreme Court intervening in such a politically charged matter, but it could certainly be argued that the court was not being "activist" at the time.

If anything, they were upholding a very long line of 14th Amendment precedents. Not exactly "activist" but more "political".

There are strong arguments for at least Thomas, Scalia and Rehnquist having conflicts of interest that should have demanded recusal. Any one of them would have changed the balance. Arguably, all three of those named found revelatory new approaches to the Equal Protection Clause only in this one case.

It looks like activism, and quacks like a duck.

*nods*

[EnragedMaldivians]

Another reason people hate the US is because it doesn't deserve it. The it I mean is the US doesn't deserve being a superpower, it has been around for only 250 years very young in history times...other nations such as japan and england have been around forever and they aren't powerful...why does a world newcomer get power? and not the peoples who have been around for millenia?

Again forum people never grasp the point of any post...what I mean is America=new nation, thus it shouldn't be extremely powerful, old nations=old nation thus it should be more powerful cause of time...all-in-all peoples of old nations say the USA is what happened when father time screw you over.

There's good reasons to dislike the U.S and then, there is the above post.

Unless of course, you are the product of its public education system. (Though I'm guessing you're not a denizen of the U.S.)

[Make up your own mind]

So saying that I dislike all fascists is rascist, disliking any sort of group of people is racist even if the reason i hate them has nothing to due with there race?

Once again definition and use. If there was another word that would fit besides racist, I would sure use it. But, there isn't

Bigoted is a good word.

[Make up your own mind]

Again forum people never grasp the point of any post...what I mean is America=new nation, thus it shouldn't be extremely powerful, old nations=old nation thus it should be more powerful cause of time...all-in-all peoples of old nations say the USA is what happened when father time screw you over.

There's good reasons to dislike the U.S and then, there is the above post.

Unless of course, you are the product of its public education system. (Though I'm guessing you're not a denizen of the U.S.)

American public schooling is a lot like schooling on tv. There is something going on in the background, but mostly people are there for the drama and comedy.

[Exodia Ecclesianea]

hmm when I say I hate fascists how am I rascist?

I think everyone hates america because it is the fastest growing nation in the world. it has power not just by itself but with its allies and it is strong. and when it comes to war its suprising we havnt lost any sure if you count vietnam but we really just left. some dont hate us but envy us for our economy like third world countries. we get food on the table a, place to sleep, and thats why they envy us sure america has had its hard times but we have recovered like the great depression and even when we slaughtered those native americans every country has hard times like germany and the nazis everyone makes mistakes but right now america owes people money such as china and making more money is not going to help us its just going to bring down how much are money is actuilly worth and these stimulas plan arnt helping to much eather.

^The above post marks one of the few instances when I allow myself to display NO sympathy to America at all.
No other nation upon this earth gives home to preachers of such atrocious - near criminal - babble and sweetened nonsense ,highlighting the most shallow perception of moral dilemmas available. You boil down some of the most devastating tragedies of human history into sugar-coated equalization and generalisation.

And USA has even MORE of such caricatures of thought walking upon their soil.

[The Black Forrest]

Another reason people hate the US is because it doesn't deserve it. The it I mean is the US doesn't deserve being a superpower, it has been around for only 250 years very young in history times...other nations such as japan and england have been around forever and they aren't powerful...why does a world newcomer get power? and not the peoples who have been around for millenia?

Again forum people never grasp the point of any post...what I mean is America=new nation, thus it shouldn't be extremely powerful, old nations=old nation thus it should be more powerful cause of time...all-in-all peoples of old nations say the USA is what happened when father time screw you over.

Nobody commented because you don't make any sense.

Age doesn't define power.

[The Black Forrest]

There's good reasons to dislike the U.S and then, there is the above post.

Unless of course, you are the product of its public education system. (Though I'm guessing you're not a denizen of the U.S.)

American public schooling is a lot like schooling on tv. There is something going on in the background, but mostly people are there for the drama and comedy.

Ahhh sweeping generalizations.......

[Vingtor]

The reason Old Euros hate us is because they can't fight.

[Snot Sniper]

Another reason people hate the US is because it doesn't deserve it. The it I mean is the US doesn't deserve being a superpower, it has been around for only 250 years very young in history times...other nations such as japan and england have been around forever and they aren't powerful...why does a world newcomer get power? and not the peoples who have been around for millenia?

Again forum people never grasp the point of any post...what I mean is America=new nation, thus it shouldn't be extremely powerful, old nations=old nation thus it should be more powerful cause of time...all-in-all peoples of old nations say the USA is what happened when father time screw you over.

Once again a forum user fails to get the point of your post.

[Snot Sniper]

There's good reasons to dislike the U.S and then, there is the above post.

Unless of course, you are the product of its public education system. (Though I'm guessing you're not a denizen of the U.S.)

American public schooling is a lot like schooling on tv. There is something going on in the background, but mostly people are there for the drama and comedy.

Schooling is as much about socialization* as it is about learning stuff. And for that, the Other Kids do more teaching than teachers do. If I ever have kids, I think I'd like them to spend a lot more time in adult company than school provides.

*in the sociological sense: kids learning how to relate to others, which they do mostly by trial and error ...

[Snot Sniper]

And while we're talking about schooling, I don't think the US is qualitatively worse than other developed countries in the devaluing of education. In an undeveloped or developing country, school is more entertaining and empowering than what the kids would be doing without it. In developed countries, it's less.

[Snot Sniper]

I'm American, I love being an American, I'm a true patriot, but I'm against on America's Democracy (supposed to be a Democratic Republic) and several laws in which intact us, makes us vulnerable, weak and immune to lies and obesity.

"I'm cowardly, stupid and fat. WHAT IS THE GOVERNMENT DOING ABOUT IT?!?"

If it weren't of hearing Libertarian, I would be much Anarchist in the sense. I hear the rights of people, liberties, not free doom, freedom.(don't tell me examples because I am not answering).

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Maintaining freedoms is a messy business. Stopping one person from blowing up another person's plane requires restricting some freedom which both of the value, like privacy or physical dignity.

You've heard the canard "your freedom to swing your fist ends where my nose begins" I hope? Well, post industrial society is very complex and the individual interests of everyone are intertwined. If it's not stretching the analogy too far: it's hard to tell where one person's fist ends and another's nose begins.

Edited in here so I don't Bogart the thread:

Yes. I guess the French seemed the weakest then and Vietnam is all along the coast. It sort of makes sense militarily.

Attacking the US, though. Does that make any kind of sense you can see?

Yes. As stated - protectign their flank. They couldn't exactly let the Americans keep the entire freakin' philippines as an air- and submarine base to fuck with the Japanese supply lines. Not when the US were already cozying up with the British (Lend Lease & all that), and were busy negotiating the post-war world before they'd even entered the war. If the japs hadn't attacked, Roosevelt would have either declared war outright (With no element of surprise left to the numerically and economically inferior Japanese), or waited a few months during which the philippines would've been drastically reinforced, and THEN declared war - in both instance, on the basis of national security concerns.

It's not like the Japanese wanted to conquer the states - the plan was to kick them in the balls to have the freedom to take over the south-west pacific, and then wait the war out on a defensive basis until the US/ Britain get tired, and then make peace in an all-around peace conference. Discounting the 'Make peace with China because that war's worthless and America wants us to' option, it was about the sanest thing it could do.

Apologies for missing this reply. The thread has moved on and ultimately I don't think "why the world hates the US" has much to do with US conduct in WW2. "The world" loves Japan now, despite the really appalling human rights abuses of Japan in that war.

Perhaps this is the first thing I should have said: I don't even believe that the world hates the US. Rather, I think that self-congratulation and sentimental patriotism are what Americans are accustomed to, and even mild criticism comes across to them as "hate".

[Militia Alliance]

America has become far too liberal, thus the hatred

[Snot Sniper]

America has become far too liberal, thus the hatred

US should outlaw homosexuality and abolish the civil courts. Then Iran would be their new best friend.

[Roman Templars]

America has become far too liberal, thus the hatred

US should outlaw homosexuality and abolish the civil courts. Then Iran would be their new best friend.

That goes against 1st amendment

I forget which amendment that goes against.

[Snot Sniper]

US should outlaw homosexuality and abolish the civil courts. Then Iran would be their new best friend.

That goes against 1st amendment

It's just an amendment. It can be amended

I forget which amendment that goes against.

Let's just say common sense then.

[Roman Templars]

eh. Still a nation built by the people. Even though this nation was built from a criminal colony (I forgot how to spell the word) and immagrants, mostly German.

[Snot Sniper]

eh. Still a nation built by the people.

Don't you think the people of any nation would say that?

Even though this nation was built from a criminal colony (I forgot how to spell the word) and immagrants, mostly German.

There's something a bit sick about how history is taught. "History is the propaganda of the victors" as the saying goes. It isn't a unique feature of the US that olden times are romanticized, but we're talking about the US here so it must be said. Life was harder for them then, in the obvious ways (physical safety, health, feeding yourself, getting around) and when we look at their best achievements (their good writing, their glorious deeds, with their bad writing and the dirty deeds relatively censored by history) we think they must have been better people than we moderns.

"This nation" is many times more populous and a dozen times more prosperous than it was in those "building" days. And it was barbarous in many ways which it has at least partially overcome. Slavery being the obvious example.

Perhaps this is decadence. When we feel ourselves overshadowed by the achievements of our ancestors ... all and only because we choose to revere them above ourselves. We choose to. Is that the driver of decadence, downfall of civilizations?