Hypocrisy in the Dating World.

[The Truth and Light]

I, as well as many of my female friends, am a supporter of equal rights amongst gender and against gender roles. Most women I know are supporters of this. We live an age where women are becoming more and more encouraged to break the shackles of gender roles.

But yet I still know women, who, though they have told me they are feminist, equal to a man, against gender roles, whatever, still do this.

They expect the dates to be paid for by the man. The rings to be bought by the man. Presents for Valentine's Day; again from the man.

Now, I have nothing against this in and of itself, but I'm abit sick of certain women discussing at length the end to gender roles and sexism, but at the end of the day, it's the same story with dating?

Why can't I (a male) hypothetically go out with a girl and be treated for the first date? What is so wrong with that?

[Laerod]

I've generally gone Dutch or alternated paying for the date with my past girlfriends, actually.

[Norstal]

Why can't I hypothetically go out with a girl and be treated for the first date? What is so wrong with that?

It depends on who asked for the date. You seem to think that the male will always pay in every dates.

Course, I'm not in a relationship, soooo I wouldn't know how this works out.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

There's nothing wrong with that. However, we live in a society that expects men to be the ones 'treating' their dates to a meal. It's expected because our society is big on 'gender roles'. There's, to me, no rhyme or reason. but that's the way it is.

Should it change? Definitely.

[UCUMAY]

I am not like that. If anything I will pay on a first date to make sure I don't owe the person another visit. I abhor owing anyone anything.

Psst I will buy meiko the ring.

[Aeronos]

Now you see why I call myself a masculinist as well as a feminist

When I say "break gender roles" I don't just mean "Let me out of the kitchen", I mean the added part of "Let me work and support you" too! When I say "Take me seriously", I mean take me seriously, not "Let me play emotional tactics to get out of responsibility".

Though I think you'll find many feminists are less "feminist" and more gender egalitarian, and will likely agree with you here. I certainly do <3

[Dempublicents1]

Socialization is a bitch to get rid of. It's one thing to recognize that enforced gender roles are crap and quite another to fully break away from them.

Why can't I (a male) hypothetically go out with a girl and be treated for the first date? What is so wrong with that?

Nothing at all.

[Tubbsalot]

Generally speaking, the male is attempting to win the attention of the female, and the female has her pick of a crop of males. So you need to spoil them to stand out.

This is obviously less true for humans than it is for other species though.

I've never actually had to pay fully for a date myself (though I do it anyway because shit, it's not that much, honestly).

[The Truth and Light]

Why can't I hypothetically go out with a girl and be treated for the first date? What is so wrong with that?

It depends on who asked for the date. You seem to think that the male will always pay in every dates.

Course, I'm not in a relationship, soooo I wouldn't know how this works out.

It's what I hear about so often from some of my Lady Friends.

I hear girls say crazy stuff. The same girls will gossip about the idiocy of men but I will hear them the next day claim that they hate to go Dutch. It's "unladylike" or some shit.

[Call to power]

I...I don't actually think this happens from experience maybe your chums are saying that more because of who is asking

As a guy I do like to pay because it just seems to be the masculine and proper thing to do (feels bad having someone pay for you regardless no?) obviously if you have some sort of problem with it just stop dating those women.

Generally speaking, the male is attempting to win the attention of the female, and the female has her pick of a crop of males. So you need to spoil them to stand out.

I believe your referring to a very special kind of man usually preoccupied with luring school children into his Ferrari

[Whiskey Hill]

My last girlfriend hated me spending money on her. People are different.

[Buffett and Colbert]

While indeed a horrible injustice against mankind, I don't think you'll find that too much of a problem.

[Herpusderpus]

I guess it's the price we pay for it being socially accepted for us to be promiscuous. Hopefully, in not too many years women can be "whores" too without it being considered a bad thing. Wouldn't just be beneficial for them, but for us too, if you know what I mean.

Women also earn less, so it's not that unreasonable that the man usually pays. A woman that earns more than the man should pay though. Give equality a few more generations to develop. Fminism and the sexual liberation is still quite young, and complete change doesn't happen over night.

[The Truth and Light]

While indeed a horrible injustice against mankind, I don't think you'll find that too much of a problem.

I don't have a job. What if I go out with a girl who does have a job? Which one of us should foot the bill?

[Buffett and Colbert]

While indeed a horrible injustice against mankind, I don't think you'll find that too much of a problem.

I don't have a job. What if I go out with a girl who does have a job? Which one of us should foot the bill?

Her. But are you going to be going out with a "her" any time soon?

Unless you're dirt poor, go dutch.

[The Truth and Light]

I don't have a job. What if I go out with a girl who does have a job? Which one of us should foot the bill?

Her. But are you going to be going out with a "her" any time soon?

Unless you're dirt poor, go dutch.

Why are you so freaking cynical about the idea?

Meh, good idea.

Anyways, making a lady foot the bill for my lack of money would be like automatic anti-woman spray...

[Buffett and Colbert]

Her. But are you going to be going out with a "her" any time soon?

Unless you're dirt poor, go dutch.

Why are you so freaking cynical about the idea?

Well, I don't judge.

I just don't see why you would, though, if you wouldn't be happy doing it. [/quote]

[Tubbsalot]

I believe your referring to a very special kind of man usually preoccupied with luring school children into his Ferrari

I was mostly referring to peacocks.

I wish I were a peacock

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I believe your referring to a very special kind of man usually preoccupied with luring school children into his Ferrari

I was mostly referring to peacocks.

I wish I were a peacock

Peacocks are fabulous.

[The Truth and Light]

Why are you so freaking cynical about the idea?

Well, I don't judge.

I just don't see why you would, though, if you wouldn't be happy doing it.

Maybe I would be happy doing it?

Lol, it's just a hypothetical though.

[The Truth and Light]

I was mostly referring to peacocks.

I wish I were a peacock

Peacocks are fabulous.

They can be quite mean little animals...

[Laerod]

Anyways, making a lady foot the bill for my lack of money would be like automatic anti-woman spray...

It is a difficult subject to discuss on a first date.

[Buffett and Colbert]

Peacocks are fabulous.

They can be quite mean little animals...

My peacock is a mean animal.

[Greed and Death]

I've generally gone Dutch or alternated paying for the date with my past girlfriends, actually.

Yeah had to try and break a spoiled little rich girl of the habit of claiming to want to go dutch then not paying when the check came. Especially after eating half her lunch and ordering a dessert that cost more than her lunch after I said lets eat here the lunches are cheap.

[The Truth and Light]

They can be quite mean little animals...

My peacock is a mean animal.

Meh. It's still just a PEAcock.