Dying Languages

[Der Teutoniker]

Corrected; t'was an easy mistake to make so don't feel bad.

Seriously though, Khuzdul is superior, but I know you know that.

[Conscentia]

Eventually I hope every language dies out, and that only english prevails. So that everyone could atleast Understand what youre saying.

Umm, there is this little thing called dialect. Good luck with that. And I bet the Chinese would wnat everyone on earth to learn Chinese. Unless an English - speaking country conquers the entire world, then I doubt we would all speak English.

Schools can teach multiple languages...we can make a compromise. Teach only [insert country's main language here], English and Chinese in every school in the world. Eventually [Country's main language] will become obsolete and we can stop teaching that and then there will be a final face off between English and Chinese and we'll end up with a weird fusion of the two.

[LoL island]

i believe languages like that should remain existing in a form, if only so we can translate the yet to be discovered into something we can understand.

like say we appolish traditional Chinese, well that makes a large chuck of the world unable to understand yet to be translated texts

[Varazhdin]

Correct. Everyone will understand the universal English.

At least everyone will understand what you are typing...as long as you use a spell checker.

Different Dialects is better than entirely different languages with their own characters, grammar systems and words.

Oh really, why?

[Conscentia]

Corrected; t'was an easy mistake to make so don't feel bad.

Seriously though, Khuzdul is superior, but I know you know that.

No it isn't. Khuzdul didn't derive from Valarin. Valarin is the language of the Valar - the powers of Aman/the undying lands/utopia on Arda Marred.
Quenya does contain words from Valarin...hence superior.

[HellasandMediterranean]

yes we should save them before ending up being all the same with same preferences and culture
because of bad globalization forms that don't promote unification of people but promote an expropriation of the culture of each place

[Varazhdin]

yes we should save them before ending up being all the same with same preferences and culture
because of bad globalization forms that don't promote unification of people but promote an expropriation of the culture of each place

Pretty much agree.

[Der Teutoniker]

No it isn't. Khuzdul didn't derive from Valarin. Valarin is the language of the Valar - the powers of Aman/the undying lands/utopia on Arda Marred.
Quenya does contain words from Valarin...hence superior.

Unless I reject your scale of superiority.

I do, of course.

[Vestr-Norig]

yes we should save them before ending up being all the same with same preferences and culture
because of bad globalization forms that don't promote unification of people but promote an expropriation of the culture of each place

Pretty much agree.

Couldn't agreed more

[Conscentia]

At least everyone will understand what you are typing...as long as you use a spell checker.

Different Dialects is better than entirely different languages with their own characters, grammar systems and words.

Oh really, why?

For the reason of what you type on a computer (provided you use a spell checker) can be understood by everyone who knows the language you are typing in.
If there are many languages communications is more difficult because translation is required. With dialects, if you don't understand, make them type it out on a computer...or write it if they have good handwriting.

[Varazhdin]

Pretty much agree.

Couldn't agreed more

Anti-globalists of the NS - UNITE!!!!!

[Varazhdin]

Pretty much agree.

Couldn't agreed more

Anti-globalists of the NS - UNITE!!!!!

[Der Teutoniker]

At least everyone will understand what you are typing...as long as you use a spell checker.

Different Dialects is better than entirely different languages with their own characters, grammar systems and words.

Not necessarily.

[Conscentia]

No it isn't. Khuzdul didn't derive from Valarin. Valarin is the language of the Valar - the powers of Aman/the undying lands/utopia on Arda Marred.
Quenya does contain words from Valarin...hence superior.

Unless I reject your scale of superiority.

I do, of course.

Why do you think the Dwarven language is superior when it does not derive from the Ainur - the supreme angelic being created by Eru Ilúvatar, god of Arda?

[Cartfartium]

Umm, there is this little thing called dialect. Good luck with that. And I bet the Chinese would wnat everyone on earth to learn Chinese. Unless an English - speaking country conquers the entire world, then I doubt we would all speak English.

Schools can teach multiple languages...we can make a compromise. Teach only [insert country's main language here], English and Chinese in every school in the world. Eventually [Country's main language] will become obsolete and we can stop teaching that and then there will be a final face off between English and Chinese and we'll end up with a weird fusion of the two.

Entirely possible. But if the final face off goes violent, and I'd give a 75% chance of that, then it would start WWIII, which would most likely destroy all human life.

[Buffett and Colbert]

Who cares if a language dies out? Languages are meant to facilitate communication. If no one is using that means of communication, then it's served its purpose and can be left behind. Something for the history books and language aficionados.

[Varazhdin]

Oh really, why?

For the reason of what you type on a computer (provided you use a spell checker) can be understood by everyone who knows the language you are typing in.
If there are many languages communications is more difficult because translation is required. With dialects, if you don't understand, make them type it out on a computer...or write it if they have good handwriting.

Easier communication isn't a justifiable reason to abandon an element of identity such as your language.

[Conscentia]

Who cares if a language dies out? Languages are meant to facilitate communication. If no one is using that means of communication, then it's served its purpose and can be left behind. Something for the history books and language aficionados.

Indeed.

[Soviet Commu-Facism]

Thank you for the support! I am glad that someone can see eye to eye with me. But really, it only makes sense that we deal with what we know before we deal with the unknown. You have to walk before you run after all. But who knows what understanding these languages could do for us? They could unlock more about human history then we actually know. Of course, that seems unlikely, but I hate to call anything impossible.

[Conscentia]

For the reason of what you type on a computer (provided you use a spell checker) can be understood by everyone who knows the language you are typing in.
If there are many languages communications is more difficult because translation is required. With dialects, if you don't understand, make them type it out on a computer...or write it if they have good handwriting.

Easier communication isn't a justifiable reason to abandon an element of identity such as your language.

I disagree - the purpose of language is communication, hence easier communication is the perfect reason.

Language is not an element of identity - it is a means of communication. No one ever identified themselves by language. What matters is what the words mean - not what they are.

[Equimanthon]

Why?

And only if we start with the bastard language of English. Really, germanic structure with romance words, ugh.

Most of the words are Germanic as well...

[Der Teutoniker]

Why do you think the Dwarven language is superior when it does not derive from the Ainur - the supreme angelic being created by Eru Ilúvatar, god of Arda?

Why do the derivative speakers make a language inherently better?

I say that Khuzdul is better than any form of Elvish because Dwarves are better than Elves.

Other than your cries "Valar!" and "Ainur!" you have given no more proof or evidence than I.

[The Blaatschapen]

Why?

And only if we start with the bastard language of English. Really, germanic structure with romance words, ugh.

Most of the words are Germanic as well...

True, but a considerable part of the words are of Romance origin.

[Der Teutoniker]

Most of the words are Germanic as well...

Many, surely... can you prove "most"?

[Varazhdin]

Easier communication isn't a justifiable reason to abandon an element of identity such as your language.

I disagree - the purpose of language is communication, hence easier communication is the perfect reason.

Language is not an element of identity - it is a means of communication. No one ever identified themselves by language. What matters is what the words mean - not what they are.

Yes it is,
because different people speak different languages. Language is a simbol of identity just like pretty much anything else that makes one person different from another person, like colour of persons house, or his favourite kind of music. Of course, it would be much simpler if we all lived in identical houses, ate identical food, or listen to identical music, but we don't do that.