Should men and women be treated dfferently?

[Arilandon]

In today's society, women are treated better than men, often getting a less harsh sentence for crime, men are expected to open the door for women, women (and children) are the first priority in the case of a ship sinking or another emergency, and have more power in deciding whatever or not to have children. Do you support these distinctions? Or should men and women be treated the same.

[Fionnuala_Saoirse]

Ah so it's this phase in the NSG cycle

[Neo Art]

Ah yes, the most pressing concern of our era. Ships sinking.

Quick, telegraph the Post, I've just heard news from my habidasher that a steam ship has run aground off the coast of Prussia!

[Farnhamia]

Ah so it's this phase in the NSG cycle

I forget, do we get the fever next?

[EvilDarkMagicians]

Yes.
The reason, why?

I have no logical reason it just feels right.

[The Parkus Empire]

I tend to treat each individual according to how his/her merits warrant. That said, I do have somewhat more of thing for women's nipples as opposed to men's.

[The Murtunian Tribes]

Confucius say: Shut up.

[Arilandon]

Ah so it's this phase in the NSG cycle

I did't make this topic as a part of any cycle

[Laerod]

In today's society, women are treated better than men, often getting a less harsh sentence for crime,

Source please.

men are expected to open the door for women,

Everyone is expected to hold the door open for everyone, especially for the handicapped and those with their arms full. Someone that only holds the door open for women is an asshole.

women (and children) are the first priority in the case of a ship sinking,

Source for this happening please. More than "it happened on the Titanic".

and have more power in deciding whatever or not to have children.

Source please.

Do you support these distinctions? Or should men and women be treated the same.

Gonna wait until there's something of substance rather than speculation before debating it.

[Farnhamia]

In today's society, women are treated better than men, often getting a less harsh sentence for crime,

Source please.

men are expected to open the door for women,

Everyone is expected to hold the door open for everyone, especially for the handicapped and those with their arms full. Someone that only holds the door open for women is an asshole.

women (and children) are the first priority in the case of a ship sinking,

Source for this happening please. More than "it happened on the Titanic".

and have more power in deciding whatever or not to have children.

Source please.

Do you support these distinctions? Or should men and women be treated the same.

Gonna wait until there's something of substance rather than speculation before debating it.

"Women and children first" is kind of a meme, or was, but yeah. As for the rest, I'm surprised he hasn't blamed the Turks.

[The Parkus Empire]

Ah so it's this phase in the NSG cycle

I did't make this topic as a part of any cycle

Nonetheless, it fits neatly into the wave of "men's rights" threads that flood NSG during rejection season.

[Neo Art]

I did't make this topic as a part of any cycle

Nonetheless, it fits neatly into the wave of "men's rights" threads that flood NSG during rejection season.

So you're saying only women get to complain about being marginalized? You sexist bastard.

[Xarithis]

often getting a less harsh sentence for crime, men are expected to open the door for women

My parents have programmed me to do this for everyone, regardless of sex.

[Kobeanare]

I did't make this topic as a part of any cycle

Nonetheless, it fits neatly into the wave of "men's rights" threads that flood NSG during rejection season.

Rejection season?

[Laerod]

"Women and children first" is kind of a meme, or was, but yeah. As for the rest, I'm surprised he hasn't blamed the Turks.

Oh, I've heard of it, I just want some statistics to see if it actually gets applied in real life. Especially in non-Western sinkings where the meme might not be known.

[Flameswroth]

I think in a general sense, we should treat each other equally, and not with any special consideration. I think a big part of the problem is not so much that we treat women nicer, but that we treat men worse...and before that upsets someone let me clarify that a bit:

We have certain actions, like opening/holding doors for people, that we often view as gestures we make towards women (if "we" are men). When you start discussing 'treat everyone equally', people seem to jump to treating women worse by ceasing to hold doors open, when the actual reaction should be holding doors open for the dudes as well. If we are to treat everyone equally, it's in bringing men up to the treatment that women get, and not reducing women to what men have.

So really, women aren't getting treated 'special', they are being treated normal. Men just need to be treated UP to that level to make things equal.

As a cherry on top, treating everyone the same in general makes your romantic gestures much more prominant. If you hold a door open for every girl, but not men, you might be doing it as a way to try and get on their good side, or you might not. That could get confusing. If you hold doors open for everyone, but only ask specific people out for coffee or something, your intention is much clearer.

So treat 'em all the same.

[Neo Art]

You know, Many times in my life I've thought "I'd gladly give away 20% of my pay and have the right wing constantly fighting to limit my reproductive rights, if only someone would occassionally leap forward to open the door for me like I'm some sort of invalid"

[You-Gi-Owe]

Differently, but with equality.

Simple biology dictates that there has to be some difference.

[Arilandon]

In today's society, women are treated better than men, often getting a less harsh sentence for crime,

Source please.

men are expected to open the door for women,

Everyone is expected to hold the door open for everyone, especially for the handicapped and those with their arms full. Someone that only holds the door open for women is an asshole.

women (and children) are the first priority in the case of a ship sinking,

Source for this happening please. More than "it happened on the Titanic".

and have more power in deciding whatever or not to have children.

Source please.

Do you support these distinctions? Or should men and women be treated the same.

Gonna wait until there's something of substance rather than speculation before debating it.

1. http://www.americanbar.org/publications ... rbias.html
2. Men are also expected to pay the bill on a date
3. it happened in other emergencies
4. if a women decides not to have an abortion the man is forced to be a father for that child, while if a women does't want a child she can just have an abortion

[Dumb Ideologies]

You know, I was going to throw such facts as pay disparities and the double burden placed on women - who as well as working are also expected to do the majority of domestic labour - before then going to comment how these dramatically outweigh the trivial 'disadvantages' listed on the other side, but no, fuck it. I've done this shit too many times already. Enough. I'm going to respond to this in a way entirely fitting with this idiotic endlessly repeated 'topic of the month'.

Hurrr, durrr, splurfff *table headbutt*

[The Parkus Empire]

Nonetheless, it fits neatly into the wave of "men's rights" threads that flood NSG during rejection season.

So you're saying only women get to complain about being marginalized? You sexist bastard.

No, God no, of course not. Women shouldn't complain 't all about being marginalized--it's the burden they must bear for looking so attractive but never noticing me for someone who's superior to their boyfriends.

[Arilandon]

I did't make this topic as a part of any cycle

Nonetheless, it fits neatly into the wave of "men's rights" threads that flood NSG during rejection season.

The rejection season?

[The Parkus Empire]

I can already tell this thread is going to be full of fuck within the hour.

Thanks a lot, OP. It's people like you who are responsible for alcoholism.

[Neo Art]

So you're saying only women get to complain about being marginalized? You sexist bastard.

No, God no, of course not. Women shouldn't complain 't all about being marginalized--it's the burden they must bear for looking so attractive but never noticing me for someone who's superior to their boyfriends.

I see good sir. Perhaps you’d be interesting in hearing me discuss, at length, “the friend zone”, what it is, how to avoid it, and what you should do should you find yourself in it.

My advice in the field is quite expert, despite being in highschool and never having spent significant portions of my life with any adult female that wasn’t a relative or a teacher. I assure you, I know what them bitches are about.

[Laerod]

1. http://www.americanbar.org/publications ... rbias.html

Doesn't address anything but the gender bias in the death penalty and the application thereof. Something that would be easily amended by getting rid of the of the death penalty. Have you any sources that show what sentencing is like in non capital crime cases?

2. Men are also expected to pay the bill on a date

The majority of women I've dated insisted on going Dutch or paying themselves. Or, at the very least, reimbursing me for the ingredients of what I cooked for them. So let's skip anecdotal evidence and look at the source you've got.

3. it happened in other emergencies

This is not a source.

4. if a women decides not to have an abortion the man is forced to be a father for that child, while if a women does't want a child she can just have an abortion

This is not a source.