How would you calm down the town halll protesters

[Sibirsky]

Except I'm one of the people complaining about the neo-cons acting this way and I had a problem when the Dems did it too...

No don't you see, by criticizing the Republicans, you must support the Democrats completely. This is because there are only two possible choices, absolute support for the Republicans, or absolute support for the Democrats. There are no other possible choices.

Right...
That's why I am in favor of Health care reform and a member of the NRA...

You're a centrist?

[Kynchile]

Right...
That's why I am in favor of Health care reform and a member of the NRA...

My sentiments are the same.

My reform would be to evict all illegal immigrants that are using our healthcare system.

Extensive reform of malpractice lawsuits.

Aggressively going after fraudulent claims and prosecuting them.

These three things alone would save billions upon billions.

I lol'd. Why? Because you have no idea what you are talking about and are just parroting right-wing punditry who are paid by lobbyists to say that.

So you are saying that they wouldn't save Billions? I thought we had an emergency here.

[Sibirsky]

Because you are rational and well behaved?

http://img.wonkette.com/images/thumbs/2 ... 214d42.jpg

A tad unfair. That one's not even from the US.

Give me a break. Bush was ridiculed everywhere. Some fair, some not. Don't cry foul when Obama is ridiculed.

[Sibirsky]

Even if we take at face value the idea that the left was totally rude during the Bush administration, how does that make the right also doing it okay? It's just the old, childish "He started it!" defense.

Except for the fact that the administartion is continuously restricting their rights.

Which rights are those? It seems, by virtue of being able to loudly disrupt these proceedings and having the media report ad nauseum on it, their rights are relatively secured. Certainly more so than how most protestors are treated when they interrupt the event they protest.

Amusingly, this topic is filled with familiar faces. It seems a lot of people here who are congratulating these protestors for disrupting town hall meetings were the same people crying for Dr. Gates' arrest a few weeks ago for having the audacity to yell at a cop in public.

No, rights like distributing pamphlets and things of that nature that was prohibited "just because" in a link posted earlier in the thread.

[Mad hatters in jeans]

Give me a break. Bush was ridiculed everywhere. Some fair, some not. Don't cry foul when Obama is ridiculed.

But i've never seen Obama wear a gasmask before how do we know it's really him?

[Phenia]

Because you are rational and well behaved?

http://img.wonkette.com/images/thumbs/2 ... 214d42.jpg

A tad unfair. That one's not even from the US.

Give me a break. Bush was ridiculed everywhere. Some fair, some not. Don't cry foul when Obama is ridiculed.

Um, you were using that to accuse TPH of being irrational or ill-behaved. It not only had nothing to do with his behavior at all, it had nothing to do with behavior of liberals or anyone in his own fucking country.

You don't get a "break" just so your completely irrational personal attack goes unchecked. It's 100% bullshit any way one looks at it.

[Sibirsky]

Even if we take at face value the idea that the left was totally rude during the Bush administration, how does that make the right also doing it okay? It's just the old, childish "He started it!" defense.

Except for the fact that the administartion is continuously restricting their rights.

Which rights are those? It seems, by virtue of being able to loudly disrupt these proceedings and having the media report ad nauseum on it, their rights are relatively secured. Certainly more so than how most protestors are treated when they interrupt the event they protest.

Amusingly, this topic is filled with familiar faces. It seems a lot of people here who are congratulating these protestors for disrupting town hall meetings were the same people crying for Dr. Gates' arrest a few weeks ago for having the audacity to yell at a cop in public.

He deserved to get arrested. He broke into a home (I am aware it was his home, the neighbor did not know that) and then he raised hell when the cops ask for his ID.

[The_pantless_hero]

So you are saying that they wouldn't save Billions? I thought we had an emergency here.

No, we wouldn't. Because none of those "solutions" fix the inherent problems in the system.

[Psychotic Mongooses]

He deserved to get arrested. He broke into a home (I am aware it was his home, the neighbor did not know that) and then he raised hell when the cops ask for his ID.

[insert: "Aw Jeez, not this shit again" jpeg]

[The_pantless_hero]

Because you are rational and well behaved?

http://img.wonkette.com/images/thumbs/2 ... 214d42.jpg

A tad unfair. That one's not even from the US.

Give me a break. Bush was ridiculed everywhere. Some fair, some not. Don't cry foul when Obama is ridiculed.

Oh please, that's the best you fucking got to posting an irrelevant image?

[Sibirsky]

I have citations, do you.

For being high? Yes, but they are 12 years old. Been clean for about 8.

So you admit you have no evidence of your position.

Of you being high? No, just your posts. Should be evident enough.

[Sibirsky]

Right...
That's why I am in favor of Health care reform and a member of the NRA...

My sentiments are the same.

My reform would be to evict all illegal immigrants that are using our healthcare system.

Extensive reform of malpractice lawsuits.

Aggressively going after fraudulent claims and prosecuting them.

These three things alone would save billions upon billions.

Correct. And an excellent start. Not a complete plan. But just this is better than ObamaCare.

[The_pantless_hero]

For being high? Yes, but they are 12 years old. Been clean for about 8.

So you admit you have no evidence of your position.

Of you being high? No, just your posts. Should be evident enough.

Flame-baiting.

[Capfrania]

He deserved to get arrested. He broke into a home (I am aware it was his home, the neighbor did not know that) and then he raised hell when the cops ask for his ID.

[insert: "Aw Jeez, not this shit again" jpeg]

It was not a neighbor, it was just someone walking past who called on a cell phone.

Plus the caller actually said to 911 it may have been someone having trouble with their key.

[Sibirsky]

Give me a break. Bush was ridiculed everywhere. Some fair, some not. Don't cry foul when Obama is ridiculed.

But i've never seen Obama wear a gasmask before how do we know it's really him?

The cops just decided to do it on their own. How they decided, completely on their own to arrest a woman being polled on the phone prior to the election that said he was a socialist. Just like the Missouri cops decided on their own that people disagreeing with "The One" should be question. I hate to be rude, but get fucking real.

[Kynchile]

So you are saying that they wouldn't save Billions? I thought we had an emergency here.

No, we wouldn't. Because none of those "solutions" fix the inherent problems in the system.

Well, if the US goverment wants to get in the business of cutting costs for the public plan then I gaurantee that these issues will be addressed.

[Sibirsky]

A tad unfair. That one's not even from the US.

Give me a break. Bush was ridiculed everywhere. Some fair, some not. Don't cry foul when Obama is ridiculed.

Um, you were using that to accuse TPH of being irrational or ill-behaved. It not only had nothing to do with his behavior at all, it had nothing to do with behavior of liberals or anyone in his own fucking country.

You don't get a "break" just so your completely irrational personal attack goes unchecked. It's 100% bullshit any way one looks at it.

Not accusing TPH, just the left in general. Don't tell me things like that didn't happen in this country, you know they did. I am familiar enough with TPH to know his stance.

[Sibirsky]

So you are saying that they wouldn't save Billions? I thought we had an emergency here.

No, we wouldn't. Because none of those "solutions" fix the inherent problems in the system.

Damn it. I actually agree with TPH. Like I said it is a good start. Of course I do think it would save billions. Problem is, billions are not enough.

[Sibirsky]

He deserved to get arrested. He broke into a home (I am aware it was his home, the neighbor did not know that) and then he raised hell when the cops ask for his ID.

[insert: "Aw Jeez, not this shit again" jpeg]

WHAT? I am wrong?

[Sibirsky]

A tad unfair. That one's not even from the US.

Give me a break. Bush was ridiculed everywhere. Some fair, some not. Don't cry foul when Obama is ridiculed.

Oh please, that's the best you fucking got to posting an irrelevant image?

So you ARE saying the left never ridiculed Bush right here in the US?

[Sibirsky]

So you admit you have no evidence of your position.

Of you being high? No, just your posts. Should be evident enough.

Flame-baiting.

You don't bait? Actually this thread is pretty good in your case. Just the immigrant/housing one, that was bad. That's the thread I was thinking of when I said you don't read what you respond to.

[Mad hatters in jeans]

The cops just decided to do it on their own. How they decided, completely on their own to arrest a woman being polled on the phone prior to the election that said he was a socialist. Just like the Missouri cops decided on their own that people disagreeing with "The One" should be question. I hate to be rude, but get fucking real.

wooooooooossssshhhh.

[Phenia]

Not accusing TPH, just the left in general.

Which makes it even more ludicrous. People in random countries who hate Bush =/= "the left." You are way off base here, stop backpedaling, admit it and move on.

Don't tell me things like that didn't happen in this country, you know they did.

You should know you're not in any position to know what I know or don't know, you know?

I am familiar enough with TPH to know his stance.

And attack him for it as a means of deflecting criticisms against you. You're like an old married couple, you'll be having an argument on health care and suddenly you'll bring up that one time you were fifteen minutes late for the anniversary date and the flowers were all wrong because you think he doesn't love you.

[Redwulf]

Maybe because of people like myself and the 50 million like me who aren't happy with it.

At least 15 million of you are illegals and don't count. Many more of your 50 million would probably like to spend their money on something else besides healthcare.

You never did source that number . . .

[Kynchile]

Maybe because of people like myself and the 50 million like me who aren't happy with it.

At least 15 million of you are illegals and don't count. Many more of your 50 million would probably like to spend their money on something else besides healthcare.

You never did source that number . . .

I don't think I need to. The side that wants the bill should have the burden of proof. Please include the CBO's findings as well.