How would you calm down the town halll protesters

[Mad hatters in jeans]

Well, I'd take out the 20mm cannon and replace it with a paintball gun...

so you can paint them to death?

[Maurepas]

Im not really sure you can, at least without turning them into metaphorical martyrs, those people want to protest something, because they feel threatened that their perceived "side" isnt in power anymore, and they will, no matter what...

Id say the best move is to not have Town Hall Meetings, TV and Radio are your friend,

[Marcuslandia]

LOL... protest happens when 'civil discourse' becomes 'let me tell you how you should think.'

How about, "A 'good talk' is when I talk and you agree with everything I say"?

[Zoingo]

Im not really sure you can, at least without turning them into metaphorical martyrs, those people want to protest something, because they feel threatened that their perceived "side" isnt in power anymore, and they will, no matter what...

Id say the best move is to not have Town Hall Meetings, TV and Radio are your friend,

Considering that more than the loosing side is protesting or even against this plan, I have to disagree with that statement.

[Maurepas]

LOL... protest happens when 'civil discourse' becomes 'let me tell you how you should think.'

How about, "A 'good talk' is when I talk and you agree with everything I say"?

Thatd just be boring to watch,

[Zoingo]

LOL... protest happens when 'civil discourse' becomes 'let me tell you how you should think.'

How about, "A 'good talk' is when I talk and you agree with everything I say"?

That is the Congress Term of "Good Talk", it should go in there dictionary. *nods*

[Maurepas]

Considering that more than the loosing side is protesting or even against this plan, I have to disagree with that statement.

Possibly, but, I seriously doubt either of us have any numbers or sources to prove it one way or the other, it is largely beside the point...

[The_pantless_hero]

Protesters = Exercising First Amendment rights.

Nothing Says they have to be civil about it

Yes, it does. You have the right to peaceably assemble. Key word: peaceably.

Ah... so protesters for the last 8 years who did things like this outside the font gate of Bush's private residence weren't 'civil?'

Hell, let's round them up and charge them!

Or is what's good for the goose not good for the gander?

There was a townhall meeting going on outside the front gate of Bush's private residence?

[Zoingo]

Considering that more than the loosing side is protesting or even against this plan, I have to disagree with that statement.

Possibly, but, I seriously doubt either of us have any numbers or sources to prove it one way or the other, it is largely beside the point...

All we can prove is that there is a big ruckus going on...I wonder if people will resort to throwing tomatoes....but then again, that would waste so much good quality ketchup.

[Zoingo]

There was a townhall meeting going on outside the front gate of Bush's private residence?

Obviously you don't listen well, the same kinds of "Protestors" were claiming that Bush was a "Nazi, Suspending their rights, and will be America's dictator". Both sides of the coin in this situation can be blamed for "civil disobedience".

Although If there was a townhall in front of Bushes' Private Residence, then I would say that that is poor urban planning on Crawford's part.

[Mad hatters in jeans]

Yes, those smurfs need to be taught a lesson!

what sort of lesson?

[The_pantless_hero]

There was a townhall meeting going on outside the front gate of Bush's private residence?

Obviously you don't listen well, the same kinds of "Protestors" were claiming that Bush was a "Nazi, Suspending their rights, and will be America's dictator". Both sides of the coin in this situation can be blamed for "civil disobedience".

Although If there was a townhall in front of Bushes' Private Residence, then I would say that that is poor urban planning on Crawford's part.

Obviously you arn't paying attention. It's not that they are protesting, it's that they are VIOLENTLY INTERRUPTING ORGANIZED MEETINGS.

[Buxtahatche]

LOL... protest happens when 'civil discourse' becomes 'let me tell you how you should think.'

How about, "A 'good talk' is when I talk and you agree with everything I say"?

That is the Congress Term of "Good Talk", it should go in there dictionary. *nods*

EXACTLY.
The People presenting the healthcare plan want everyone to agree with them. They get questioned, and not only don't address the question, they attempt to ramrod their viewpoint on unwilling people. The people become irate and restate their opposition, and the presenter makes a more concerted effort to tell them that they are not agreeing, and should.

The whole thing goes to pot quickly and then it becomes a shouting match.

I'm just getting a good bit of jollies out of the fact that the very people complaining about the Republican opposition acting in this manner are the very people who advocated and even praised such outbursts against another man just 9 months ago.

[Zoingo]

There was a townhall meeting going on outside the front gate of Bush's private residence?

Obviously you don't listen well, the same kinds of "Protestors" were claiming that Bush was a "Nazi, Suspending their rights, and will be America's dictator". Both sides of the coin in this situation can be blamed for "civil disobedience".

Although If there was a townhall in front of Bushes' Private Residence, then I would say that that is poor urban planning on Crawford's part.

Obviously you arn't paying attention. It's not that they are protesting, it's that they are VIOLENTLY INTERRUPTING ORGANIZED MEETINGS.

I don't see them waving guns around, throwing the Healthcare plan (You know, 1000 pages of junk could be considered a weapon) at them, or deliberately trying to harm the Congressperson who is (supposedly) representing them.

[The_pantless_hero]

I'm just getting a good bit of jollies out of the fact that the very people complaining about the Republican opposition acting in this manner are the very people who advocated and even praised such outbursts against another man just 9 months ago.

I'm sorry, calmly asking an off-topic question or sitting quietly wearing shirts saying "no war for oil" is not load, abrasive, and confrontational protesting. Goldfish could outwit you partisan hacks.

[Sibirsky]

lots and lots of machine guns.

And maybe a tank, just for good measure.

You wanna give the protestors lots and lots of machine guns??? And a tank?

Hell, I'd protest for that!

Me too...
Hell I'd even settle for a tankette...

I would love to show up to work in that thing tomorrow.

[Buxtahatche]

Obviously you arn't paying attention. It's not that they are protesting, it's that they are VIOLENTLY INTERRUPTING ORGANIZED MEETINGS.

No they are VERBALLY interrupting them... generally with questions that aren't covered in the Democratic Healthcare Plan Q&A Handbook that they are carrying around like a shield.

It just seems violent to those who are unprepared to answer questions that viciously attack a plan they are unlikely to have read themselves... instead allowing a legion of aides to peruse and brief them on.

[Kynchile]

I'm just getting a good bit of jollies out of the fact that the very people complaining about the Republican opposition acting in this manner are the very people who advocated and even praised such outbursts against another man just 9 months ago.

I'm sorry, calmly asking an off-topic question or sitting quietly wearing shirts saying "no war for oil" is not load, abrasive, and confrontational protesting. Goldfish could outwit you partisan hacks.

I bet you wished there was some goldfish here.

I have seen some good arguements using facts andreasoning from the conservative side, but a large amount of insults and emotions from the liberal side. This is the norm so I am not complaining. I know you guys can do better then that.

[The_pantless_hero]

Obviously you don't listen well, the same kinds of "Protestors" were claiming that Bush was a "Nazi, Suspending their rights, and will be America's dictator". Both sides of the coin in this situation can be blamed for "civil disobedience".

Although If there was a townhall in front of Bushes' Private Residence, then I would say that that is poor urban planning on Crawford's part.

Obviously you arn't paying attention. It's not that they are protesting, it's that they are VIOLENTLY INTERRUPTING ORGANIZED MEETINGS.

I don't see them waving guns around, throwing the Healthcare plan (You know, 1000 pages of junk could be considered a weapon) at them, or deliberately trying to harm the Congressperson who is (supposedly) representing them.

Oh of course not, just startingfights; hanging congressmen in effigy; starting shouting matches;acting threateningly; painting swastikas on congressmen's signs

Totally rational and well-behaved.

[Buxtahatche]

I'm just getting a good bit of jollies out of the fact that the very people complaining about the Republican opposition acting in this manner are the very people who advocated and even praised such outbursts against another man just 9 months ago.

I'm sorry, calmly asking an off-topic question or sitting quietly wearing shirts saying "no war for oil" is not load, abrasive, and confrontational protesting. Goldfish could outwit you partisan hacks.

http://atlantis2.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=824178n

A CBS link to one of your 'peaceful protests in NYC.
Peaceful is not qualified by 'dancing on the cop car.'

[Sibirsky]

There was a townhall meeting going on outside the front gate of Bush's private residence?

Obviously you don't listen well, the same kinds of "Protestors" were claiming that Bush was a "Nazi, Suspending their rights, and will be America's dictator". Both sides of the coin in this situation can be blamed for "civil disobedience".

Although If there was a townhall in front of Bushes' Private Residence, then I would say that that is poor urban planning on Crawford's part.

Perhaps you are new in NS political debates. The_pantless_hero doesn't listen at all. He'll probably miss your response.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

I'm sorry, calmly asking an off-topic question or sitting quietly wearing shirts saying "no war for oil" is not load, abrasive, and confrontational protesting. Goldfish could outwit you partisan hacks.

Even if we take at face value the idea that the left was totally rude during the Bush administration, how does that make the right also doing it okay? It's just the old, childish "He started it!" defense.

[Sibirsky]

There was a townhall meeting going on outside the front gate of Bush's private residence?

Obviously you don't listen well, the same kinds of "Protestors" were claiming that Bush was a "Nazi, Suspending their rights, and will be America's dictator". Both sides of the coin in this situation can be blamed for "civil disobedience".

Although If there was a townhall in front of Bushes' Private Residence, then I would say that that is poor urban planning on Crawford's part.

Obviously you arn't paying attention. It's not that they are protesting, it's that they are VIOLENTLY INTERRUPTING ORGANIZED MEETINGS.

Violently? You are high aren't you? The most violence has come from the left.

[Buffett and Colbert]

I have seen some good arguements using facts andreasoning from the conservative side, but a large amount of insults and emotions from the liberal side. This is the norm so I am not complaining. I know you guys can do better then that.

Those town hall meetings sure were civil on the Republican side.

[Zoingo]

There was a townhall meeting going on outside the front gate of Bush's private residence?

Obviously you don't listen well, the same kinds of "Protestors" were claiming that Bush was a "Nazi, Suspending their rights, and will be America's dictator". Both sides of the coin in this situation can be blamed for "civil disobedience".

Although If there was a townhall in front of Bushes' Private Residence, then I would say that that is poor urban planning on Crawford's part.

Perhaps you are new in NS political debates. The_pantless_hero doesn't listen at all. He'll probably miss your response.

Ah I see, so he misses the base of the argument completely, rather than listening? Well, it doesn't matter, thank you for the generous information.