On transubstantation.

[Minnas]

They're perfectly welcome to wallow in their own ignorance.

This comment doesn't help you. You, despite wanting to berate believers, come off as the ignorant one.

Minnas - RoI, RoI - Minnas

Well, you have given your reasons for not beliving. That I respect, even if I don't agree with you. Has Ring of Isengard done the same? No. It denotes more than ignorance.

[New Mitanni]

They're perfectly welcome to wallow in their own ignorance.

As are you. And you clearly are fully exercising your right to do so.

[Ring of Isengard]

This comment doesn't help you. You, despite wanting to berate believers, come off as the ignorant one.

Minnas - RoI, RoI - Minnas

Well, you have given your reasons for not beliving. That I respect, even if I don't agree with you. Has Ring of Isengard done the same? No. It denotes more than ignorance.

My reasons? I'm not stupid enough to believe that shit.

[Ring of Isengard]

They're perfectly welcome to wallow in their own ignorance.

As are you. And you clearly are fully exercising your right to do so.

Oh, sorry "Mr. I believe everything the church tells me".

[Minnas]

My reasons? I'm not stupid enough to believe that shit.

You're stating opinion. Not enough. Why is it that a believer is ignorant but you, self-proclaimed atheist, are not? Source this.

[Treznor]

Very much so. Which is why I'm willing to allow you the right to be wrong.

You see, as a believer I happen to think you're wrong. As a non-believer you think I am wrong. In matters of faith, it doesn't matter who's wrong and who's right. What matters if that some people have faith and others do not.

I tease. Hence the smiley. Some people think faith is a healthy thing. Some of us find it less so.

[Ring of Isengard]

My reasons? I'm not stupid enough to believe that shit.

You're stating opinion. Not enough. Why is it that a believer is ignorant but you, self-proclaimed atheist, are not? Source this.

Because I do not believe something that there is no evidence for whatsoever and sounds like it should be in a fairytale. Happy? Of course you're not.

[BunnySaurus Bugsii]

EDIT: Removed. Way too mean.

[Minnas]

Very much so. Which is why I'm willing to allow you the right to be wrong.

You see, as a believer I happen to think you're wrong. As a non-believer you think I am wrong. In matters of faith, it doesn't matter who's wrong and who's right. What matters if that some people have faith and others do not.

I tease. Hence the smiley. Some people think faith is a healthy thing. Some of us find it less so.

I know, Treznor.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

My reasons? I'm not stupid enough to believe that shit.

You can disbelieve and disavow and any all religious beliefs, that is your freedom and right to do so but don't call it "shit" nor its adherents "stupid" (via your "I'm not stupid enough" comment). I don't call atheists "ignorant fucks" or anything along those lines, so why not be civil about it. The amount of jaded atheists who take any and every turn on NationStates to slander religious faith or persons of faith is unbelievable. I'm a believer and I try to be civil and respectful, I don't know why it's so hard to get the same in return.

[New Mitanni]

They're perfectly welcome to wallow in their own ignorance.

As are you. And you clearly are fully exercising your right to do so.

Oh, sorry "Mr. I believe everything the church tells me".

Yes, you certainly are sorry. As well as ignorant, because I differ from the Church on a number of issues, such as ordination of women and married men. But that's exactly what I expect from you.

[Minnas]

My reasons? I'm not stupid enough to believe that shit.

You can disbelieve and disavow and any all religious beliefs, that is your freedom and right to do so but don't call it "shit" nor its adherents "stupid" (via your "I'm not stupid enough" comment). I don't call atheists "ignorant fucks" or anything along those lines, so why not be civil about it. The amount of jaded atheists who take any and every turn on NationStates to slander religious faith or persons of faith is unbelievable. I'm a believer and I try to be civil and respectful, I don't know why it's so hard to get the same in return.

And this is the crux of the matter. Thank you for explaining it so well, Lancaster.

[Ring of Isengard]

My reasons? I'm not stupid enough to believe that shit.

I don't call atheists "ignorant fucks" or anything along those lines, so why not be civil about it. .

Why would you?

The amount of jaded atheists who take any and every turn on NationStates to slander religious faith or persons of faith is unbelievable.

Jaded?

[New Mitanni]

My reasons? I'm not stupid enough to believe that shit.

You can disbelieve and disavow and any all religious beliefs, that is your freedom and right to do so but don't call it "shit" nor its adherents "stupid" (via your "I'm not stupid enough" comment). I don't call atheists "ignorant fucks" or anything along those lines, so why not be civil about it. The amount of jaded atheists who take any and every turn on NationStates to slander religious faith or persons of faith is unbelievable. I'm a believer and I try to be civil and respectful, I don't know why it's so hard to get the same in return.

Again, they do so to impress each other with how superior they are to believers. Vulgar expressions of contempt for belief makes them feel good about themselves.

And maybe they are actually whistling past the graveyard.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

And this is the crux of the matter. Thank you for explaining it so well, Lancaster.

My pleasure. I don't know why and will never understand why it is people disagree but insist on doing so with such vitriol and disdain. This is the downfall of Man.

[Dyakovo]

Again, they do so to impress each other with how superior they are to believers. Vulgar expressions of contempt for belief makes them feel good about themselves.

And maybe they are actually whistling past the graveyard.

Or it could be that fundies are annoying asses, whether they are religious fundies or anti-religious fundies...

[Minnas]

And this is the crux of the matter. Thank you for explaining it so well, Lancaster.

My pleasure. I don't know why and will never understand why it is people disagree but insist on doing so with such vitriol and disdain. This is the downfall of Man.

Eaxctly. It is in us as humans to have different points of view. It is in us to disagree. But disagreeing is not synonymous to bashing.

[Ring of Isengard]

And this is the crux of the matter. Thank you for explaining it so well, Lancaster.

My pleasure. I don't know why and will never understand why it is people disagree but insist on doing so with such vitriol and disdain. This is the downfall of Man.

Eaxctly. It is in us as humans to have different points of view. It is in us to disagree. But disagreeing is not synonymous to bashing.

But, if what people believe is so ridiculous something has to be done.

[Minnas]

But, if what people believe is so ridiculous something has to be done.

Only those involve can do something about it.

[Dyakovo]

But, if what people believe is so ridiculous something has to be done.

So you can prove that there are no gods?

[Treznor]

Again, they do so to impress each other with how superior they are to believers. Vulgar expressions of contempt for belief makes them feel good about themselves.

And maybe they are actually whistling past the graveyard.

Or it could be that fundies are annoying asses, whether they are religious fundies or anti-religious fundies...

I'm certainly guilty of being short with religious fundamentalists, and even use sarcasm to make a point. But I will concede it isn't always appropriate.

Some atheists simply have no tolerance for any religious claims. I'm always eager to challenge them, but not flame them.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

But, if what people believe is so ridiculous something has to be done.

Perhaps a Holocaust? Euthanasia? Lobotomies?

Who are you (or anyone) to label anyone's sacred beliefs ridiculous?

[Dyakovo]

Again, they do so to impress each other with how superior they are to believers. Vulgar expressions of contempt for belief makes them feel good about themselves.

And maybe they are actually whistling past the graveyard.

Or it could be that fundies are annoying asses, whether they are religious fundies or anti-religious fundies...

I'm certainly guilty of being short with religious fundamentalists, and even use sarcasm to make a point. But I will concede it isn't always appropriate.

Some atheists simply have no tolerance for any religious claims. I'm always eager to challenge them, but not flame them.

I've been guilty of it as well

[Ring of Isengard]

But, if what people believe is so ridiculous something has to be done.

So you can prove that there are no gods?

Yes I can

[Minnas]

I've been guilty of it as well

Yes, tolerance is something that both sides are in sore need of. Not that I see that happening.