Should Turkey return the territories it has stolen?

[Arilandon]

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[Galloism]

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Your German and Polish aspirations overlap. And you're really out of touch with reality, I see. Good to know.

Psst.

It's in different universes.

[Farnhamia]

Your German and Polish aspirations overlap. And you're really out of touch with reality, I see. Good to know.

Psst.

It's in different universes.

Must be. I wonder how he crossed over to this one? That could be interesting technology.

[Arilandon]

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[Unilisia]

Considering it fought for them, achieved victory, and built a modern secular state which has done rather well for itself in comparison to the Ottomans, I say no. The Kurd's will probably get a state out of Iraq, and may eventually gain land from Turkey. But it isn't that big of an issue. Also, the population exchanges between Greece and Turkey solves the problem of Smyrna, and Istanbul is called Istanbul because it is a Turkish city, not a Greek one.

[Farnhamia]

I also support greater russia

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Of course you do.

[Arilandon]

Do you have any sense of homur? It was just a joke.

[Farnhamia]

Do you have any sense of homur? It was just a joke.

It's impossible to tell with you. You should practice more, seriously.

[Arilandon]

Do you have any sense of homur? It was just a joke.

It's impossible to tell with you. You should practice more, seriously.

I deleted the posts.

[Arilandon]

Considering it fought for them, achieved victory, and built a modern secular state which has done rather well for itself in comparison to the Ottomans, I say no. The Kurd's will probably get a state out of Iraq, and may eventually gain land from Turkey. But it isn't that big of an issue. Also, the population exchanges between Greece and Turkey solves the problem of Smyrna, and Istanbul is called Istanbul because it is a Turkish city, not a Greek one.

Where is your outrage?! Time for Outrage!

[Unilisia]

Considering it fought for them, achieved victory, and built a modern secular state which has done rather well for itself in comparison to the Ottomans, I say no. The Kurd's will probably get a state out of Iraq, and may eventually gain land from Turkey. But it isn't that big of an issue. Also, the population exchanges between Greece and Turkey solves the problem of Smyrna, and Istanbul is called Istanbul because it is a Turkish city, not a Greek one.

Where is your outrage?! Time for Outrage!

What the fuck are you talking about...

[Farnhamia]

Where is your outrage?! Time for Outrage!

What the fuck are you talking about...

He's joking. Don't you have a sense of humor?

[Arilandon]

Where is your outrage?! Time for Outrage!

What the fuck are you talking about...

You should be outraged at the turkish govenments treatment of minorities.

[Fellrike]

It's said that in the referendum that determined the status of Hatay, ethnic Arabs might have chosen continued independence, or union with the Mandate of Syria, but the local Turkish population was swelled by thousands of nonresident Turks who came to vote, ensuring that Hatay would become part of Turkey. Is this the truth, or revanchist nonsense? I'm no Middle East expert, so I can't say. I do know there are a number of Kurds who call Hatay their home, and some maps drawn by Kurdish nationalists have included Iskenderun in a future Kurdish state. While I understand why the Kurds would want a seaport, I don't believe there are enough Kurds in Hatay to legitimize their claim, nor are the peshmerga strong enough to seize it.
Citing the dubious Hatay referendum, Syria still claims the province, which they call Iskenderun, and have refused to recognize the Turkish claim. But even if offered a choice, I can't imagine that any sane person there would want his territory to become part of Syria.

[Arilandon]

It's said that in the referendum that determined the status of Hatay, ethnic Arabs might have chosen continued independence, or union with the Mandate of Syria, but the local Turkish population was swelled by thousands of nonresident Turks who came to vote, ensuring that Hatay would become part of Turkey. Is this the truth, or revanchist nonsense? I'm no Middle East expert, so I can't say. I do know there are a number of Kurds who call Hatay their home, and some maps drawn by Kurdish nationalists have included Iskenderun in a future Kurdish state. While I understand why the Kurds would want a seaport, I don't believe there are enough Kurds in Hatay to legitimize their claim, nor are the peshmerga strong enough to seize it.
Citing the dubious Hatay referendum, Syria still claims the province, which they call Iskenderun, and have refused to recognize the Turkish claim. But even if offered a choice, I can't imagine that any sane person there would want his territory to become part of Syria.

Similar to the voting on whatever or not southern slesvig would become a part of denmark or a part of germany, thousands of germans traveled from the south up north to vote.

[Arilandon]

What the fuck are you talking about...

He's joking. Don't you have a sense of humor?

I was't

[Farnhamia]

He's joking. Don't you have a sense of humor?

I was't

Silly me, there weren't any nationalistically aspirational maps. Of course. You should have stopped before posting those maps, you know. At least were taking you half-way seriously then.

[Arilandon]

I was't

Silly me, there weren't any nationalistically aspirational maps. Of course. You should have stopped before posting those maps, you know. At least were taking you half-way seriously then.

Yeah.

[Arilandon]

I was't

Silly me, there weren't any nationalistically aspirational maps. Of course. You should have stopped before posting those maps, you know. At least were taking you half-way seriously then.

Maybe descriping it as a joke was innacurate, i just meant i felt it would be fun to post these maps.

[Franzosisch Louisiana]

Considering it fought for them, achieved victory, and built a modern secular state which has done rather well for itself in comparison to the Ottomans, I say no. The Kurd's will probably get a state out of Iraq, and may eventually gain land from Turkey. But it isn't that big of an issue. Also, the population exchanges between Greece and Turkey solves the problem of Smyrna, and Istanbul is called Istanbul because it is a Turkish city, not a Greek one.

Secular? Turkey? Are you kidding?
XD Alright, I see now. You ARE kidding.

[Caninope]

Umm...

I think that means we just put the whole world in Africa.

If everyone in the world were given a square yard, we could all stand on the island of Zanzibar.

Put me next to some nice looking movie stars please. Scarlett Johannson will do.

[Farnhamia]

Considering it fought for them, achieved victory, and built a modern secular state which has done rather well for itself in comparison to the Ottomans, I say no. The Kurd's will probably get a state out of Iraq, and may eventually gain land from Turkey. But it isn't that big of an issue. Also, the population exchanges between Greece and Turkey solves the problem of Smyrna, and Istanbul is called Istanbul because it is a Turkish city, not a Greek one.

Secular? Turkey? Are you kidding?
XD Alright, I see now. You ARE kidding.

They're a good deal more secular than a lot of Muslim nations, though in recent years that's started to change. Which is a pity, really.

[Galla-]

Yeah... no.

90 years later, when everyone involved in the original event is now dead, and everyone is used to the government they have?

No.

Off course there is no one left, because they were all murdered. And there are still some left who are still oppresed by the turkish government.

:itsaconspiracy:

Although I do call Istanbul "Constantinople" just to piss off the Turks.

[Arilandon]

Off course there is no one left, because they were all murdered. And there are still some left who are still oppresed by the turkish government.

:itsaconspiracy:

[Arilandon]

Secular? Turkey? Are you kidding?
XD Alright, I see now. You ARE kidding.

They're a good deal more secular than a lot of Muslim nations, though in recent years that's started to change. Which is a pity, really.

They less secular than having a complete seperation of church and state, and that is undeseriable.