"I am a Democrat because I am a Mormon."

[CommunistSovietAmerica]

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[No Names Left Damn It]

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[Buffett and Colbert]

I'm not Mormon but I thought I was pretty much a democrat. So what does that make me?

[Al Shire]

What? Religious and a Democrat? Is the world ending? How is it possible?1

Run to the hills! The 1st seal has been unleashed!

HAIL AND GLORY TO THE COMING OF LORD CTHULU!!!! (lol)

[Galloism]

God says that you should forgive your brother wronging you 'seventy times seven' times... and that's a lot.

It's 490. If my brother wrongs me a 491st time, am I justified in flipping out and shooting him in the head, by Christian principles?

I think somebody missed the point.

In the Jewish society at that time, the pharisees were instructing people to forgive their brother up to three times. The apostle felt he was being generous by saying seven times. When Jesus said "seventy times seven", he was not literally referring to 490, but a large number that no one would keep track of.

Ergo, as many times as you need.

[Zeli]

Everyone know Jesus was a commie.

Wrong!

Karl Marx
“From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.”

Jesus
"If a man will not work, he shall not eat" (II Thessalonians 3:10)

Sounds like Jesus was a Libertarian.

[North Occidentia]

Everyone know Jesus was a commie.

Wrong!

Karl Marx
“From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.”

Jesus
"If a man will not work, he shall not eat" (II Thessalonians 3:10)

Sounds like Jesus was a Libertarian.

I oppose application of any ideology onto Christ. However, the Bible undeniably favors distributism.

"'He who will not work, neither shall he eat.' (2 Thessalonians 3:10) . . . But the laws of St. Paul are not merely for the poor. They are for the rich as well. . . But you say, 'I have my paternal inheritance!' Tell me, just because he is poor and was born of a poor family possessing no great wealth, is he therefore worthy to die? . . . You say that the poor do not work, but do you work yourselves? Do you not enjoy in idleness the goods you have unjustly inherited? Do you not exhaust others with labor, while you enjoy in indolence the fruit of their misery?" -St. John Chrysostom

Additionally, Karl Marx was basically just rephrasing the Book of Acts and applying it to all people, rather than just believers:
"All that believed were together, and had all things in common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need." (Acts 2:44-45)
"There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need." (Acts 4:34-35)

I'm a Christian Democrat. Not Democratic Party Democrat, but the real definition of "Christian Democracy." Christian democracy, according to the infallible repository of all human knowledge, Wikipedia, is a political ideology that seeks to apply Christian (and often specifically Catholic) principles to public policy.

[Maerngau]

If it is not voluntary it ceases to be charity. This means it is not a part of good works if it comes from taxes.
You donate to a charity it comes from the heart.
You pay your taxes, it either comes from a sense of nationalism, or a fear of going to jail for tax evasion.
By taxing all I could donate you deny be the ability to give from my heart.

Bullshit.

I gladly pay taxes because I know that they pay for roads that YOU drive on. It really does come from the heart

[North Occidentia]

If it is not voluntary it ceases to be charity. This means it is not a part of good works if it comes from taxes.
You donate to a charity it comes from the heart.
You pay your taxes, it either comes from a sense of nationalism, or a fear of going to jail for tax evasion.
By taxing all I could donate you deny be the ability to give from my heart.

All you've done there is redefine charity to something foreign to scripture and Christian tradition. A Christian should use any means necessary to help the poor/disabled/orphan/etc., including taxes, because denying those in need is the same as denying Christ, whether voluntary or involuntary.

Additionally, consider the following:
I will vote voluntarily for a hypothetical candidate that supports views compatible with Christianity, based on my faith in God and the meditation of my heart. That candidate will help pass bills to assist those in need, which almost always means taxes. I will gladly and voluntarily pay those taxes, which Christ commanded all Christians to do, so that the needy will be helped. I'm doing all of this voluntarily and from my heart. Those who pay these taxes out of nationalism and fear cannot claim charity, however, at least based on your definition.

Of course, you can't just say "Well! Payed my taxes! Done with my Christian good works now!" One should volunteer, tithe, and act with love everywhere at all times. We all fall short of pleasing God with our works no matter what, but it is our duty as Christians to try.

[Intangelon]

My family is kind of rich, not enormously, but a little rich, my father makes a lot of money, most people think we are fiscally conservative, but when we say we are democrat, they freak out and say "you like taxes". He says if it is for the good of society, and if everyone gets an opportunity, and use it to their advantage. He says It's fine, shocking many people.

Those people are idiots. There are plenty of "rich" Democrats and "poor" Republicans. While it's true, that people with more means tend to lean Republican, and vice versa, there is by no means great divide. I live in the richest county of the country, and the county went to Obama in the election. I have visited many people whom an average person would consider rich and who consider themselves liberal. And vote it.

Famous and rich business people like Warren Buffet, Mohammad El-Erian, David Geffen, William Louis-Dreyfus, Elisabeth Murdock, Pierre Omidyar, Dan Rooney, George Soros and Leigh Steinberg also endorsed Obama. Amongst others.

I do not vote based on party affiliation and hope most people don't either. I used to vote for the lesser of two evils, and up to this point, in Presidential elections, my votes have been split exactly 50/50 between Democrats and Republicans.

PS. Two former Republican Senators also endorsed Obama. Two former Republican Congressmen also endorsed Obama. Three former Republican Governors endorsed Obama. A Republican mayor endorsed Obama.

Excellent post & examples. I'm not looking for further division, but rather for exceptions to the perceived "rule" about which groups are supposed to hold which ideologies. You've provided a great point -- thanks.

[Intangelon]

I'm Mormon myself, living a long way from the intermountain West. I know a number of Mormon Democrats, as well as a rather larger percentage of Republicans and the usual array of independents and others.

There are gay, black, and poor Republicans out there, and staunch Christian and ultra-rich Democrats. Stereotyping either major American political party inevitably runs up against a lot of exceptions.

In my own case, I don't make enough money to be a Republican but I am--albeit with marked libertarian tendencies that sometimes pull me off the reservation.

Exactly this, and exactly why I started this thread, to expose all "sides" to the exceptions. Perhaps a few will realize that acting and/or reacting solely along stereotypical lines is a silly thing to do.

[Intangelon]

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[Cannot think of a name]

Haha, this is only a shocker in the states. In some of the Scandinavian countries, many of the leftist parties have christian principles and ideals, based on the reasoning that Jesus would have advocated a more egalitarian society.

'Round these parts, "render unto Caesar" means "Get a foot up your ass."

[Intangelon]

Haha, this is only a shocker in the states. In some of the Scandinavian countries, many of the leftist parties have christian principles and ideals, based on the reasoning that Jesus would have advocated a more egalitarian society.

'Round these parts, "render unto Caesar" means "Get a foot up your ass."

Which parts are those?