Do U Believe in Aliens?

[Aethrys]

...What?

Finding fossilized bacteria on Mars is evidence that alien life existed at one point, and is an indicator that it likely does elsewhere.

Actually, what they think they found are microfissures in the rock and mineral composition, iirc.

Right, well, my point was that if they did find fossilized bacteria, that would be a sign of life, though Intangelon is apparently discounting that for whatever reason.

[Intangelon]

They found what they THINK are bacterial fossils. That's not life, that's paleontology, and utterly irrelevant since bacteria probably can't pilot starships.

...What?

Finding fossilized bacteria on Mars is evidence that alien life existed at one point, and is an indicator that it likely does elsewhere.

And, despite lacking starship piloting abilities, bacteria is still life.

Read again. What they THINK are fossils. They're microfissures that look A BIT like they COULD POSSIBLY have been made by ancient bacteria. That's not evidence, that's a hunch from remote sensors on a planet somewhere between 36 million and 250 million miles away.

Yeah. Not even close to evidence.

[Intangelon]

Actually, what they think they found are microfissures in the rock and mineral composition, iirc.

Right, well, my point was that if they did find fossilized bacteria, that would be a sign of life, though Intangelon is apparently discounting that for whatever reason.

Because tiny cracks in rocks can be caused by any number of non-biological phenomena.

See, this is the kind of overhyped thinking I'm on about. Buffs tend to grasp at the threads of straws in order to foist headlines about the eminently improbable onto unsuspecting bystanders.

Show me the science.

[Aethrys]

...What?

Finding fossilized bacteria on Mars is evidence that alien life existed at one point, and is an indicator that it likely does elsewhere.

And, despite lacking starship piloting abilities, bacteria is still life.

Read again. What they THINK are fossils. They're microfissures that look A BIT like they COULD POSSIBLY have been made by ancient bacteria. That's not evidence, that's a hunch from remote sensors on a planet somewhere between 36 million and 250 million miles away.

Yeah. Not even close to evidence.

You said "That's not life, that's paleontology" in regards to an actual discovery of fossilized alien bacteria.

That's like saying finding fossilized trilobites isn't evidence of life.

If it wasn't clear, I'm going on hypotheticals here. I'm not saying they have found evidence, from my understanding you were discounting what would be rather compelling evidence if they actually found it.

[Intangelon]

Read again. What they THINK are fossils. They're microfissures that look A BIT like they COULD POSSIBLY have been made by ancient bacteria. That's not evidence, that's a hunch from remote sensors on a planet somewhere between 36 million and 250 million miles away.

Yeah. Not even close to evidence.

You said "That's not life, that's paleontology" in regards to an actual discovery of fossilized alien bacteria.

That's like saying finding fossilized trilobites isn't evidence of life.

That's because it isn't life. It WAS life at one point, and we actually have the mineral-infused corpses to look at as well as their impressions in stone. What NASA, via the Mars Rovers, THINKS it discovered are...wait for it...cracks. Cracks whose list of possible explanations includes dozens of climatological, seismic and hydrological possibilities and one -- ONE -- potential biological possibility.

People who think as you do remind me of the Jim Carrey character in Dumb & Dumber, when he's told his chances with the leading lady (Lauren Holly?) are "one in a million", and he says "so you're sayin' there's a chance?!"



Believe what you like. I wouldn't dream of stopping you. After all, UFO conventions and paraphernalia are part of the economy in places like New Mexico and Nevada. Just please don't expect people who've got lives to lead and things to tend to here on Earth to get all tingly about E.T. -- because he doesn't exist.

[Intangelon]

Read again. What they THINK are fossils. They're microfissures that look A BIT like they COULD POSSIBLY have been made by ancient bacteria. That's not evidence, that's a hunch from remote sensors on a planet somewhere between 36 million and 250 million miles away.

Yeah. Not even close to evidence.

You said "That's not life, that's paleontology" in regards to an actual discovery of fossilized alien bacteria.

That's like saying finding fossilized trilobites isn't evidence of life.

If it wasn't clear, I'm going on hypotheticals here. I'm not saying they have found evidence, from my understanding you were discounting what would be rather compelling evidence if they actually found it.

If.

[Jagalonia]

Meh, there has to be some other lifeform out there, somewhere. But who's to say that they're more advanced than us? By that logic, even if they could, why would they even consider coming to earth? It's a rock with little real value...

perhaps they are curious as to other species and we are the closest

Once again, they might be more primitive than us, maybe they don't have life-detection equipment, or super-fast spaceships. What if we stumble upon them first, and find them banging rocks together to make fire?

[Great Nepal]

Yes, aliens do exist. Universe is vast, and our ball of rock is not even equivalent to a grain of sand in the universe. There will be a lot more life out there. However, they certainly are not visiting earth - if they haven't got FTL/ wormhole generator: they are as stuck with their ball of rock as we are; if they have got FTL/wormhole generator: they would be too goddamn advanced to care about us - ie. for same reason why you dont fly from Saudi to California just to poke a stick in colony of ants.

That doesn't mean they exist. That means it's kinda probable that they might exist. Difference.

Saying "they must be there, look at the odds" does not equal "they're here".

No, it actual means there is very high chance that they exist. There is no evidence that Russia will not go crazy and nuke the place you are in, does that mean you should go towards nearest nuclear bunker?
If there is 9 magnitude earthquake, there is no evidence that your house will collapse but why do you head for safe open place?

[Aethrys]

Alright, it's pretty clear to me that you're too much of a condescending prick to think for a minute and comprehend what I'm trying to get through to you, so I'll politely run it through for you one more time.

I am not saying they found fossilized bacteria.

My whole point was that you appear to be saying that if they DID find fossilized bacteria on another planet, that would not be evidence of alien life, which is absurd.

I do not believe evidence of alien life has been found.

I doubt aliens visit our planet.

However, I believe that it is likely that there is some form of life elsewhere, key word being life, which is not synonymous with civilization. I am not a tinfoil hat wearing roswell believer who thinks the government is cutting up aliens under the pentagon.

Please unwedge that stick from your ass, won't you?

[Avenio]

Show me the science.

This is exactly what NASA's been working on for the last two decades, in fact; they're just being extremely conservative and are confirming every last detail before they make any sort of noise on the subject, whether positive or negative. First they sent missions to determine whether or not Mars had water in the past; that was confirmed. Then they sent missions to see whether Mars still has water on its surface today; that was also confirmed, along with the existence of several different Earth-like rocks (See the discoveries of the Spirit and Opportunity rovers). Now, they're sending the Mars Science Laboratory (AKA Curiosity) to look for either organic molecules in the surface soil layers or evidence of past organic molecules, and potentially look for signs of life itself via the chemical signatures it leaves. In the next five or ten years, ESA, in concert with NASA, is planning to send the ExoMars probe to drill 2m into the Martian soil to study its chemistry and look for water and the signs of life. Finally, NASA plans to, in the future, send a craft called the Mars Sample Return Mission to pick up samples of the Martian soil and bring it back to Earth as a final test to see if life exists in the soil there.

The evidence has been piling up, slowly but surely. It's too early to say yet, but in my mind the odds are good.

[Fantasy Encounter]

I do believe that there is life in the universe other than Earth and that a small percentage is intelligent. With that said however, I do not think we are being visited. First of all, even if FTL travel is possible (and most likely it is not) it would be extremely expensive. It would not be like Star Trek or Star Wars where you can just make a quick jaunt to the next star system for a cup of coffee. If aliens wanted to come to Earth, it would be a tremendous effort on their part.

Secondly, if aliens wanted to study Earth, they would just send a probe. Why risk a life when an unmanned probe would work just as well, especially if you wanted to keep secret. If they believed a world was hostile, the last thing you would want to do is risk a crew getting captured. Now, if they wanted to get to know us, then they might come and introduce themselves.

Would they be hostile? Most likely not. Any advanced civilization that was violent would have most likely destroyed itself when it discovered nuclear weapons. What about aliens attacking us for our resources? First of all, the more advanced the technology, the more efficient they would be as using their resources. Also, with so many planets being found in so many systems, I really don't think that an alien species would make the huge journey to Earth, start a war with us, just to get our limited resources. Take water for instance. How many scifi stories have aliens attacking the Earth for its water? Well there is an obscene amount of water in the Oort cloud that surrounds the solar system.

I just think aliens are too few in number and too far away to have visited us.

[Distruzio]

Yes, I do. Fundamentalist christian reporting.

[Corrian]

I honestly think it is funny that all these brilliant scientists at NASA seem to think that a planet has to be exactly like ours to sustain life. I don't know if all of them think that way, but it seems like a lot. As far as we know they could live on a planet with nothing that makes us live at all and be perfectly fine. I don't see why that couldn't be a possibility. It's not like every single species must live in the same atmosphere as us. I could see a species living on Jupiter for all we know.

Yes, I believe there has to be another race of equal/less/more intelligence then us out there somewhere. I just see no reason why there wouldn't be. I also don't know for a fact there is, because theres no proof, but I think there probably is. They could be hostile or not, I don't know. I also have no clue if they've visited us or not. They might of: they might not of. As far as I'm concerned the ocean on our very planet is another world in itself. It just acts like an alien world down there, with all the weird and amazing fish.

[Galla-]

I honestly think it is funny that all these brilliant scientists at NASA seem to think that a planet has to be exactly like ours to sustain life. I don't know if all of them think that way, but it seems like a lot. As far as we know they could live on a planet with nothing that makes us live at all and be perfectly fine. I don't see why that couldn't be a possibility. It's not like every single species must live in the same atmosphere as us. I could see a species living on Jupiter for all we know.

Yes, I believe there has to be another race of equal/less/more intelligence then us out there somewhere. I just see no reason why there wouldn't be. I also don't know for a fact there is, because theres no proof, but I think there probably is. They could be hostile or not, I don't know. I also have no clue if they've visited us or not. They might of: they might not of. As far as I'm concerned the ocean on our very planet is another world in itself. It just acts like an alien world down there, with all the weird and amazing fish.

Do you mean a planet with nitrogen-based life, or something?

[Meridiani Planum]

Just tell us, do you BELIEVE!

Iä! Iä! Yes, praise Cthulhu!

[Risottia]

So, do you?

I have reasons to believe they existed, yes.

If so, do you think they are friendly?

No, they weren't.

If so, do you think they are visiting earth?

They might have tried. But they never reached the ground. Alive.

Are they hostile?

They did ignore the orders from the air traffic control and the airspace defense command.

Are their more than one species?

Hard to tell after a S-400 battery shot their vehicle down, a Tunguska regiment drilled a gazillion holes in their hull, a Buratino batallion and an Uragan batallion torched the area around the crash site for about two hours, and mechanized infantry combed the remains.

[DaWoad]

Do I belief in alien life forms? Yes, it's unlikely we are alone in the universe. Even on this planet we can find weird creatures that spend their life in extreme conditions.

Do I belief in intelligent alien life forms? Yes, however reaching a really smart level, capable of building space ships by instance, isn't that easy. With some luck the dinosaurs were still here and humans not. I don’t think dinosaurs could build a space ship.

Do I belief in aliens visiting our Earth and working together with some governments? No, not at all.

this but modified slight
was there life on planets other than earth? yes
is there life on planets other than earth? almost certainly.
was there intelligent life on planets other than earth? very probably
is there intelligent life on planets other than earth? probably
was there intelligent life capable of space travel on planets other than earth? possibly
is there intelligent life capable of space travel on planets other than earth? maybe
has that life visited earth during human history? no
will that life visit earth while there are humans still alive on it? almost certainly not
will that life ever visit earth? very probably not.

[Naurobia]

Yes I believe i aliens. Only a fool wouldn't. Think about it. We live in a solar system of 8 plants and there are 100 billion solar systems in the milky way galaxy and their are billions of galaxies in the universe. Couple that with 50,000 UFO sightings a year which can't all be hoax's and the fact that other planets would definitely be able to sustain life and the creating of life via primordial soup. Some aliens would be friendly, some bad, and others neutral. Some will be advanced, some will be primitive. Some might have visited earth and other planets. Others may not have ever heard of earth at all or maybe not even know what space is.

[Ifreann]

Given the ridiculous size of the universe I'd be more shocked if Earth were the only inhabited planet out there.

[Nulono]

There is most likely extraterrestrial life. Whether it is intelligent or hostile we can only guess.

[Lordieth]

Given the vast ginormitude* of space, it would seem crazy to postulate to the contrary.

* may not be a real word.

[Ifreann]

ginormitude*

* may not be a real word.

It should be.

[Living Freedom Land]

Aliens? I'm hoping that mankind is alone in the vast darkness that is space. It would be less depressing that way.

[Esternial]

I'm gonna take the agnostic defence and say "maybe"

Prove me wrong.

[Ifreann]

Aliens? I'm hoping that mankind is alone in the vast darkness that is space. It would be less depressing that way.

You are a curious creature.