Drug War results in giant waste of money, Everyone shocked.

[Call to power]

It's true! Only for a very small part of human history has the state possessed such power that it believes it can decide what it's citizens can and cannot put in their own bodies.

Ancient Greece

The first written Greek law code (Locrian code), by Zaleucus in the 7th century BC, stipulated that "no free woman should be allowed any more than one maid to follow her, unless she was drunk: nor was to stir out of the city by night, wear jewels of gold about her, or go in an embroidered robe, unless she was a professed and public prostitute; that, bravos excepted, no man was to wear a gold ring, nor be seen in one of those effeminate robes woven in the city of Miletus." (Quoted from Montaigne, see below.) It also banned the drinking of undiluted wine except for medical purposes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumptuary_ ... ent_Greece

when will those Greeks end the war on undiluted wine! just the other day a group of Phalanxes came to my house and confiscated all my hard liquor, I bet this wouldn't happen if Greece would be more chill about things

[New East Ireland]

It's funny, because they lost the moral high ground a long time ago.

It's true. Now Obi Wan Kenobi has the high ground. It's over.

Strike him down and he shall become more powerful than we could ever imagine.

[Tekania]

It's funny, because they lost the moral high ground a long time ago.

It's true. Now Obi Wan Kenobi has the high ground. It's over.

::drag:: These are not the drugs you're looking for....

[New East Ireland]

It's true. Now Obi Wan Kenobi has the high ground. It's over.

::drag:: These are not the drugs you're looking for....

That is the most successful tactic for sneaking drugs into the country.

[F1-Insanity]

Obviously the problem is not enough money being spent. More money! More! And more rubber ducks! More!

End the WOD now

As long as there is demand, there will ALWAYS be supply...

for soft drugs: decriminalize/legalize and tax... hey yo politicians, y'all love taxing so much... tax that!

[Sanguinthium]

Okay, we'll drop the predator drones and use BGM/UGM-109E's, given their need for preset mission packages and their high level of accuracy and range, it'll reduce the likelihood of civilian causalities.

Who said it wasn't a good idea? Seriously, stupid politicians are the reason that we are having this 'war on drugs', which is actually just soldiers sitting at the border doing absolutely nothing important. I haven't heard of a major drug lord caught in a while now, and yet we keep spending more money than we actually have.

the mexicans caught the zeta boss or something. and i wonder, if we DID do these predator drones, would this result in a war with mexico? omg! my dreams of annexation might finally come to pass!

[New Manvir]

It also states that much of Colombia's cocaine production moved to Peru, the problem isn't solved, just moved somewhere else.

and yet Peru has yet to become what Columbia was in 2002 nor has its society become as fractured unless I've fallen asleep and suddenly Peru has Farc wondering about.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/18/world ... 8peru.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shining_path

Peru is not all smiles and sunshine.

[Scientific socks]

and yet Peru has yet to become what Columbia was in 2002 nor has its society become as fractured unless I've fallen asleep and suddenly Peru has Farc wondering about.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/18/world ... 8peru.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shining_path

Peru is not all smiles and sunshine.

If it has moved to Peru than prehaps more of a focus should be placed upon Peru. Movement of a business wether legal or illegal would not take place unless there was financial pressure in the current location. The fact that the drug cartels have moved is proof that something changed in the drug industry.

[Ifreann]

Obviously the problem is not enough money being spent. More money! More! And more rubber ducks! More!

End the WOD now

As long as there is demand, there will ALWAYS be supply...

for soft drugs: decriminalize/legalize and tax... hey yo politicians, y'all love taxing so much... tax that!

The World Of Darkness?

[Tekania]

::drag:: These are not the drugs you're looking for....

That is the most successful tactic for sneaking drugs into the country.

IF that doesn't work the agents really need to watch out, his bong doubles as a lightsaber.

[Living Freedom Land]

That is the most successful tactic for sneaking drugs into the country.

IF that doesn't work the agents really need to watch out, his bong doubles as a lightsaber.

"Not as clumsy or as random as a pipe. An elegant paraphernalia... for a more civilized age."

[Risottia]

Seriously why burn money?

To fight inflation.

[UCUMAY]

Seriously why burn money?

To fight inflation.

Good point. The dollar is inflated. But I'd rather see the flames than burn it this way.

[New Chalcedon]

While I disagree with the War on Drugs, I take issue with the tone the LA Timed op-ed took: that Obama is somehow to blame for the wasted money. The policy far, far predates his entrance to the WH and enjoys such a huge degree of institutionalised support that it won't go away absent a whole lot of popular pressure for it to do so.

[Eternal Yerushalayim]

To be fair, other nations have done much more with less, even before Obama was born.

[Sanguinthium]

and yet Peru has yet to become what Columbia was in 2002 nor has its society become as fractured unless I've fallen asleep and suddenly Peru has Farc wondering about.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/18/world ... 8peru.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shining_path

Peru is not all smiles and sunshine.

the shining path are brave freedom fighters! the glory of communism shall take peru!!!!!!

oh, and i think they are running outta steam.

[New Manvir]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/18/world ... 8peru.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shining_path

Peru is not all smiles and sunshine.

If it has moved to Peru than prehaps more of a focus should be placed upon Peru. Movement of a business wether legal or illegal would not take place unless there was financial pressure in the current location. The fact that the drug cartels have moved is proof that something changed in the drug industry.

Should we just invade and occupy all of Central and South America while we're at it?

[Sibirsky]

While I disagree with the War on Drugs, I take issue with the tone the LA Timed op-ed took: that Obama is somehow to blame for the wasted money. The policy far, far predates his entrance to the WH and enjoys such a huge degree of institutionalised support that it won't go away absent a whole lot of popular pressure for it to do so.

My issue with Obama is this... (also Clinton).

He has admitted to drug use in his college days. Which I respect him for. He's not afraid of some shenanigans in his 20s. Presumably, he thinks his presidency is good for the nation. So if he was caught and got into legal trouble in his college days, his political career would probably never happen. Which means some plant, which he considers mostly harmless would prevent the nation from having a good president (himself).

Yet he continues a policy, that continues to prevent talented men and women from accomplishing great things in both public, and private sectors by labeling them as criminals.

Not to mention the lost lives, enormous costs, and violations of rights this creates.

[New Manvir]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/18/world ... 8peru.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shining_path

Peru is not all smiles and sunshine.

the shining path are brave freedom fighters! the glory of communism shall take peru!!!!!!

oh, and i think they are running outta steam.

Their leadership was captured in 1999, but they reorganized in 2003 and are now operating as a terrorist organization fueled by cocaine smuggling.

[Kobeanare]

If it has moved to Peru than prehaps more of a focus should be placed upon Peru. Movement of a business wether legal or illegal would not take place unless there was financial pressure in the current location. The fact that the drug cartels have moved is proof that something changed in the drug industry.

Should we just invade and occupy all of Central and South America while we're at it?

I don't understand why the US hasn't done that already, to be perfectly honest.

[New Manvir]

Should we just invade and occupy all of Central and South America while we're at it?

I don't understand why the US hasn't done that already, to be perfectly honest.

This is probably why.

[UCUMAY]

I don't understand why the US hasn't done that already, to be perfectly honest.

This is probably why.

[New Manvir]

This is probably why.

Don't worry, you won't have to pay for it, we'll leave that for the next generation.

[UCUMAY]

Don't worry, you won't have to pay for it, we'll leave that for the next generation.

I don't want to leave that to my children. I want it fixed yesterday.

[Conserative Morality]

Don't worry, you won't have to pay for it, we'll leave that for the next generation.

Blessed are the young for they shall inherit the national debt.