Drug War results in giant waste of money, Everyone shocked.

[Sibirsky]

careful now, do you know who else had a history of drug usage in politics?

The candidate she supports is not a current drug user.

[Sanguinthium]

I didn't know that Obama started the war on drugs. Little ridiculous to blame him, if you ask me.

He should be blamed for continuing however.

I don't know if a society which allowed all drugs would be better. We didn't try that one out.
It would have advantages but disadvantages too. Are we prepared to 'pay' for these disadvantages?

IMHO, we should decriminalise drug users. That's including hard drug users. But we should still hunt the suppliers.
We should legally accept (that’s including harvesting, distributing, …) a range of soft drugs, like cannabis. But we should still forbid hard and really dangerous drugs.

Allowing all drugs is, for me, a bridge too far.

Well, that's why I'm for a progressive drug law. Allow marijuana use (and tax it of course) for one year. If it solves the debt, decrease drug use, or any other positive effect, then continue. If it doesn't, for any reason, then we should repeal such laws. Then, allow other soft drugs and do the same thing. We can eventually see if it will work out or not. It's a win-win.

our federal government literally cannot legalize ganja. we signed a treaty promising we wouldnt in the late 30s

[Tekania]

Maybe some random Predator drone strikes will help?

Only if these strikes are on DEA buildings.

[Sibirsky]

Maybe some random Predator drone strikes will help?

Only if these strikes are on DEA buildings.

[Norstal]

our federal government literally cannot legalize ganja. we signed a treaty promising we wouldnt in the late 30s

Which treaty was this?

[Flameswroth]

You would think that the government would just start using real money instead of money made specifically for fighting a drug war...

You would think so...

...but then again, all the little kid arcades use their fake 'token' money for their games that can't be used elsewhere either, and they haven't changed for decades. It shouldn't be surprising that the government sticks to its fake currency for drug fighting too.

[UCUMAY]

our federal government literally cannot legalize ganja. we signed a treaty promising we wouldnt in the late 30s

Which treaty was this?

I'd like to know as well.

[New East Ireland]

Maybe some random Predator drone strikes will help?

Only if these strikes are on DEA buildings.

Knowing the government's ability to avoid civilian targets, they might wipe themselves out in the process.

[Sanguinthium]

our federal government literally cannot legalize ganja. we signed a treaty promising we wouldnt in the late 30s

Which treaty was this?

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lib ... geneva.htm

geneva narcotic limitation convention. 1931. screwed up my timeline on the date. meant early 30s

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Over 50% of US prison inmates are in jail on drug charges. Around 83% of those arrests are for simple possession, and a disproportionate amount of the people arrested are minorities. It seems, since crime rates have been steadily declining, police departments justify their budgets by focusing more attention on arresting drug users (not producers and dealers, users).

Shocking. But the government is funding more government and government-run departments to combat drugs, how are they not working?
/sarcasm

Where's the conservative outrage over such wasteful spending and governmental mismanagement? Nowhere in sight, it seems.

Probably because that would require the Conservatives to openly come out and criticise the war on drugs, and have a liberal view on illegal stimulants!

[UCUMAY]

Which treaty was this?

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lib ... geneva.htm

geneva narcotic limitation convention. 1931. screwed up my timeline on the date. meant early 30s

That doesn't affect Pot.
As it is a lot of our nation is considering or has made medical pot legal.

[Norstal]

Which treaty was this?

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lib ... geneva.htm

geneva narcotic limitation convention. 1931. screwed up my timeline on the date. meant early 30s

Eh, I think we can make exception to this one. Or any other drug treaties. Not like they're going to try to invade us.

[UCUMAY]

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lib ... geneva.htm

geneva narcotic limitation convention. 1931. screwed up my timeline on the date. meant early 30s

Eh, I think we can make exception to this one. Or any other drug treaties. Not like they're going to try to invade us.

It doesn't affect marijuana.

[Natapoc]

Do you know there was a time when all drugs were legal? When no government would stop you from putting anything in your body that you pleased?

It's true! Only for a very small part of human history has the state possessed such power that it believes it can decide what it's citizens can and cannot put in their own bodies.

But that's not all, the state enforces such power with extreme brutality and violence. The drug war is proof of the police state. It's all the evidence needed to show that you are free: As long as you only want to do the things the government wants you to do!

[Allemonde]

This isn't a shock or news to me. Groups such as NORML have been saying this years, but in our crazy fucked up reality it's better to spend $20k a year incarcerating a person for possesion of weed than spend it on a quality education for our children or for anything else. After all why educate someone when you can give 'em a life of poverty, joblessness and homelessness or reincarceration after been incarcerated for felony possesion?

[Samozaryadnyastan]

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lib ... geneva.htm

geneva narcotic limitation convention. 1931. screwed up my timeline on the date. meant early 30s

That doesn't affect Pot.
As it is a lot of our nation is considering or has made medical pot legal.

Would I be right in thinking the majority of the states that never considered legalising it were Republican states?

[Tekania]

Only if these strikes are on DEA buildings.

Knowing the government's ability to avoid civilian targets, they might wipe themselves out in the process.

Okay, we'll drop the predator drones and use RGM/UGM-109E's, given their need for preset mission packages and their high level of accuracy and range, it'll reduce the likelihood of civilian causalities.

And speaking as a former FT, ripple launches are fucking fun

[Norstal]

It doesn't affect marijuana.

I'm well aware, but I found another treaty that regulate cannabis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Con ... f_cannabis

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Do you know there was a time when all drugs were legal? When no government would stop you from putting anything in your body that you pleased?

It's true! Only for a very small part of human history has the state possessed such power that it believes it can decide what it's citizens can and cannot put in their own bodies.

But that's not all, the state enforces such power with extreme brutality and violence. The drug war is proof of the police state. It's all the evidence needed to show that you are free: As long as you only want to do the things the government wants you to do!

The police state believes it has no control, it has all control. We need to take advantage of their confusion, now!

[UCUMAY]

That doesn't affect Pot.
As it is a lot of our nation is considering or has made medical pot legal.

Would I be right in thinking the majority of the states that never considered legalising it were Republican states?

I can only speak for Texas.... Who is almost equal in popular vote. Although has had a habit of voting Republican.

[Norstal]

Do you know there was a time when all drugs were legal? When no government would stop you from putting anything in your body that you pleased?

It's true! Only for a very small part of human history has the state possessed such power that it believes it can decide what it's citizens can and cannot put in their own bodies.

But that's not all, the state enforces such power with extreme brutality and violence. The drug war is proof of the police state. It's all the evidence needed to show that you are free: As long as you only want to do the things the government wants you to do!

Subtle propaganda for anarchy is subtle.

[New East Ireland]

Knowing the government's ability to avoid civilian targets, they might wipe themselves out in the process.

Okay, we'll drop the predator drones and use BGM/UGM-109E's, given their need for preset mission packages and their high level of accuracy and range, it'll reduce the likelihood of civilian causalities.

Who said it wasn't a good idea? Seriously, stupid politicians are the reason that we are having this 'war on drugs', which is actually just soldiers sitting at the border doing absolutely nothing important. I haven't heard of a major drug lord caught in a while now, and yet we keep spending more money than we actually have.

[Call to power]

The candidate she supports is not a current drug user.

hint: every nation in a certain world war had troops spending most of their days high on amphetamines with days spent without sleep (and Marijuana growing wild on the Russian step)

Makes you wonder how fucking crazy back then must of been off camera but I digress as you are obviously a commie-nazi by my logic

[New Manvir]

I hope this means we have to legalize marijuana.

It is looking to be that way. You'll run out of money and have to legalize them anyways, eventually.

You'd be surprised how much people will sacrifice for moral high ground.

It's funny, because they lost the moral high ground a long time ago.

[Flameswroth]

It's funny, because they lost the moral high ground a long time ago.

It's true. Now Obi Wan Kenobi has the high ground. It's over.