Drug War results in giant waste of money, Everyone shocked.

[Sanguinthium]

this has been proven since the war was declared in the 70s... its a waste of money. we cannot legalize marijuana because of treaty. however, other areas...

oh, and the narcotics agents have a vested interest in the drug biz being illegal; a. it keeps them in work, and b. hey. free smack.

[Call to power]

To extend the metaphor further though, it sounds like the cancer is far too aggresive, and has metastasized (sp?) to pretty much everywhere down there. I think at this point doctors put patients on...what is it...palliative care? Basically we can't kill the cancer, so it's time to sit back on pain meds and wait to die...or in this case, stop all the torturous spending and try to alleviate the negative effects of the drugs rather than the presence of the drugs.

dunno about that the situation is Mexico alone justifies the US getting some cash out and I don't think end term cancer analogies are appropriate for nation in South America.

That said I sorta agree that more should be spent on other avenues in my case however I would point to sorting out South American nations economically to the level where people stop wanting to earn a pittance in dangerous factories but I suppose business will be hard with the rampant crime so its a vicious cycle

[Valtieres]

Well, New Manvir know's what I'm going to support anyways. Cheer's to the Fascist Mex-Canuck Coalition of Latin America future cooperation between sane and mentally stable individuals in a world of madness.

[Sibirsky]

I'm trying to put in a presidential candidate who will end the drug war.

And I love you for your effort.

[UCUMAY]

I'm trying to put in a presidential candidate who will end the drug war.

And I love you for your effort.

[Sibirsky]

Obviously the problem is not enough money being spent. More money! More! And more rubber ducks! More!

You're half right. More money and stricter punishments for drug use.

[Ifreann]

Obviously the problem is not enough money being spent. More money! More! And more rubber ducks! More!

You're half right. More money and stricter punishments for drug use.

We'll need at least three new federal prisons in every state. Five in Idaho.

[New East Ireland]

It's not like we can spend any of that money on things like healthcare, homelessness, starvation, unemployment, etc., etc. We need to waste all of it on fighting a war without guns! We need to increase border control, but leave the border unguarded for enough time to sneak 50 drug dealers into the country! It's time to act! Or not...

[Norstal]

Obviously the problem is not enough money being spent. More money! More! And more rubber ducks! More!

You're half right. More money and stricter punishments for drug use.

Yes! Instead of jailtime, we should throw coins at the criminals. Hey, the debt can't get any lower than this.

[Flameswroth]

I'm trying to put in a presidential candidate who will end the drug war.

And I love you for your effort.

Damn it! I forgot to put 'inb4 Sibirsky' in my post! I was totally gonna, too. Drug War costs are a guarantee, just like that stink bait that catches carp...

...not that I am insinuating you resemble a carp in any way, shape or form...not that carps are a bad thing or anything, their lifestyle is just as valid as any other fish. I have nothing against carp! I have some friends that are carp, in fact...yeah...

[Sibirsky]

It's either that or go to totally coin-based currency, AKA communism!

My Word! Perish the thought, Ifreann.

We just need to move all financial transactions to plastic. That'll stop those dastardly drug users.

I actually had a connection that took credit cards once. Sold weed right out of a Pizza Hut, would charge you for a pizza they never sold and take cash from the store.

[Flameswroth]

It's not like we can spend any of that money on things like healthcare, homelessness, starvation, unemployment, etc., etc. We need to waste all of it on fighting a war without guns! We need to increase border control, but leave the border unguarded for enough time to sneak 50 drug dealers into the country! It's time to act! Or not...

They're different kinds of money. Drug enforcement dollars can't be used on public welfare stuff, just like you can't use a Canadian coin in an American coke machine...by which I mean the soda machine, of course.

[New East Ireland]

My Word! Perish the thought, Ifreann.

We just need to move all financial transactions to plastic. That'll stop those dastardly drug users.

I actually had a connection that took credit cards once. Sold weed right out of a Pizza Hut, would charge you for a pizza they never sold and take cash from the store.

What's this world coming to? I mean, wouldn't that harm the pizzas?

[Sibirsky]

America - End Drug War + Tax Legal Drugs + Withdraw from Middle East + Cut off foreign aid (yes, even Israel, actually, especially Israel) = debt crisis solved. Are we really too stupid or stubborn of a nation to understand this?

No quite, but it's an excellent start.

[Sanguinthium]

I actually had a connection that took credit cards once. Sold weed right out of a Pizza Hut, would charge you for a pizza they never sold and take cash from the store.

What's this world coming to? I mean, wouldn't that harm the pizzas?

i wouldnt call pizza hut pizza the same as a pizza...

[New East Ireland]

It's not like we can spend any of that money on things like healthcare, homelessness, starvation, unemployment, etc., etc. We need to waste all of it on fighting a war without guns! We need to increase border control, but leave the border unguarded for enough time to sneak 50 drug dealers into the country! It's time to act! Or not...

They're different kinds of money. Drug enforcement dollars can't be used on public welfare stuff, just like you can't use a Canadian coin in an American coke machine...by which I mean the soda machine, of course.

But wouldn't drug enforcement dollars equal a set amount of USD?

[Norstal]

I didn't know that Obama started the war on drugs. Little ridiculous to blame him, if you ask me.

He should be blamed for continuing however.

I don't know if a society which allowed all drugs would be better. We didn't try that one out.
It would have advantages but disadvantages too. Are we prepared to 'pay' for these disadvantages?

IMHO, we should decriminalise drug users. That's including hard drug users. But we should still hunt the suppliers.
We should legally accept (that’s including harvesting, distributing, …) a range of soft drugs, like cannabis. But we should still forbid hard and really dangerous drugs.

Allowing all drugs is, for me, a bridge too far.

Well, that's why I'm for a progressive drug law. Allow marijuana use (and tax it of course) for one year. If it solves the debt, decrease drug use, or any other positive effect, then continue. If it doesn't, for any reason, then we should repeal such laws. Then, allow other soft drugs and do the same thing. We can eventually see if it will work out or not. It's a win-win.

[Norstal]

And I love you for your effort.

Damn it! I forgot to put 'inb4 Sibirsky' in my post! I was totally gonna, too. Drug War costs are a guarantee, just like that stink bait that catches carp...

...not that I am insinuating you resemble a carp in any way, shape or form...not that carps are a bad thing or anything, their lifestyle is just as valid as any other fish. I have nothing against carp! I have some friends that are carp, in fact...yeah...

He's more of a bear anyways. *nods*

[Call to power]

It also states that much of Colombia's cocaine production moved to Peru, the problem isn't solved, just moved somewhere else.

and yet Peru has yet to become what Columbia was in 2002 nor has its society become as fractured unless I've fallen asleep and suddenly Peru has Farc wondering about

And I love you for your effort.

careful now, do you know who else had a history of drug usage in politics?

[Sibirsky]

I didn't know that Obama started the war on drugs. Little ridiculous to blame him, if you ask me.

I don't know if a society which allowed all drugs would be better. We didn't try that one out.
It would have advantages but disadvantages too. Are we prepared to 'pay' for these disadvantages?

IMHO, we should decriminalise drug users. That's including hard drug users. But we should still hunt the suppliers.
We should legally accept (that’s including harvesting, distributing, …) a range of soft drugs, like cannabis. But we should still forbid hard and really dangerous drugs.

Allowing all drugs is, for me, a bridge too far.

Works well in Portugal.

[Uriash]

America - End Drug War + Tax Legal Drugs + Withdraw from Middle East + Cut off foreign aid (yes, even Israel, actually, especially Israel) = debt crisis solved. Are we really too stupid or stubborn of a nation to understand this?

No quite, but it's an excellent start.

More like deficiet problem sloved, not debt.

[Flameswroth]

They're different kinds of money. Drug enforcement dollars can't be used on public welfare stuff, just like you can't use a Canadian coin in an American coke machine...by which I mean the soda machine, of course.

But wouldn't drug enforcement dollars equal a set amount of USD?

Yeah, but the value's negative. It's like, -$10,000 USD = $1,000 DED or something like that. Not exactly a transaction you wanna be making...

[New East Ireland]

What's this world coming to? I mean, wouldn't that harm the pizzas?

i wouldnt call pizza hut pizza the same as a pizza...

And I wouldn't call Hilary Clinton a real woman, but every time I go to wikipedia, it tells me that she's a female...

Either way, we can't let that weed get into our cheap, fattening food like it got into our brownies..

[Sibirsky]

I actually had a connection that took credit cards once. Sold weed right out of a Pizza Hut, would charge you for a pizza they never sold and take cash from the store.

What's this world coming to? I mean, wouldn't that harm the pizzas?

How would it harm the pizzas?

[New East Ireland]

But wouldn't drug enforcement dollars equal a set amount of USD?

Yeah, but the value's negative. It's like, -$10,000 USD = $1,000 DED or something like that. Not exactly a transaction you wanna be making...

You would think that the government would just start using real money instead of money made specifically for fighting a drug war...