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Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:15 am**

Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
The Murtunian Tribes wrote:Yea, I have to call BS on that too, some atheists can be real assholes.

I like you, knowing that there are other Christians makes me feel better.

...WHAT????? I don't know whether to laugh or cry. I have always made it a point on this forum that I may or may not believe that there possibly might be a god.

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:15 am**

Azarea wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:I think more Christians would do that to atheists rather than atheists to Christians. The majority of atheists I've known in real life were really nice and everything, and they didn't give a shit about what religious beliefs you had.

But Christians....

Ok, living with a christian family, with lots of christian friends, some points I may not understand, but Yes, I am sure athiests are nice. But I have never ever seen a lets bash athiets thing. period.

Again, what's to bash? Any atheist bashing thread would inevitable turn into pointless ad hominem attacks which the mods would shut down.

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:16 am**

Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
Norstal wrote:Why are you saying "bullshit" when you called atheists scumbags first?

That wasn't bullshit since most of you are scumbags.

You should know that flaming is against the rules here.

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:16 am**

Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Actually, it's you who think magic was involved. We "believe" (I hate using that word in this context but it will have to do) that natural processes - chemistry and physics - caused life to appear.

but somebody had to create Chemistry and Physics!

It ALL starts with a creator.

Exactly,

Stop tarring entie groups. I know quite a few athiests, and they are not scumbags. On the contrary, they are very nice. We have many debates over christianity vs Atheism.

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:16 am**

Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Actually, it's you who think magic was involved. We "believe" (I hate using that word in this context but it will have to do) that natural processes - chemistry and physics - caused life to appear.

but somebody had to create Chemistry and Physics!

It ALL starts with a creator.

No, nobody really had to. Sorry.

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:16 am**

Azarea wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Actually, it's you who think magic was involved. We "believe" (I hate using that word in this context but it will have to do) that natural processes - chemistry and physics - caused life to appear.

Out of nothing at all. I mean, how the hell do you get something out of nothing... there are man christians who believe in evolution, and the sort. different views

Life out of nothing? The only people who say that are creationists, when they're deliberately misunderstanding science.

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:16 am**

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
That wasn't bullshit since most of you are scumbags.

Quit flaming.

yessir

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:17 am**

Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Actually, it's you who think magic was involved. We "believe" (I hate using that word in this context but it will have to do) that natural processes - chemistry and physics - caused life to appear.

but somebody had to create Chemistry and Physics!

It ALL starts with a creator.

But doesn't the creator need a creator then? >_>

This said, science says a creator isn't necessary.

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:17 am**

Takaram wrote:
Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
but somebody had to create Chemistry and Physics!

It ALL starts with a creator.

No, nobody really had to. Sorry.

So how do you get something out of nothing? How do you get the first atoms? The first matter?

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:17 am**

Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Actually, it's you who think magic was involved. We "believe" (I hate using that word in this context but it will have to do) that natural processes - chemistry and physics - caused life to appear.

but somebody had to create Chemistry and Physics!

It ALL starts with a creator.

How is that possible? Isn't a creator part of 'all'? If so, who created the creator?

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:17 am**

Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Actually, it's you who think magic was involved. We "believe" (I hate using that word in this context but it will have to do) that natural processes - chemistry and physics - caused life to appear.

but somebody had to create Chemistry and Physics!

It ALL starts with a creator.

Why?

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:17 am**

Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Most atheists I know are pleased all to hell to not have to worry about this whole fucking debate. It's only when some fundie goes crazy on us that we retaliate.

BS

But my question to you, is this. Why, if you believe with all your heart that you are right about your faith, would you care what anyone else thought? If you have that much certainty, wouldn't you be confident about it? Why get so angry?

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:17 am**

Azarea wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:I think more Christians would do that to atheists rather than atheists to Christians. The majority of atheists I've known in real life were really nice and everything, and they didn't give a shit about what religious beliefs you had.

But Christians....

Ok, living with a christian family, with lots of christian friends, some points I may not understand, but Yes, I am sure athiests are nice. But I have never ever seen a lets bash athiets thing. period.

Living in a Christian family, with lots of Christian friends.... I understand though.

Personally I've never seen people bash each other due to their beliefs on religion. It's just that many Christians I've met tended to have been very.... negative towards other beliefs. Especially in Korean communities. Korean Christians tend to be very fundamental.

But of course they don't represent the majority or anything.

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:17 am**

I am a Christian and I am constantly persecuted. Hate crimes against Muslims, Jews, and homosexuals are still the highest. I would say deal with the tiny amount of hatred you are afforded like the rest of us. I promise, life is hard regardless of your religious beliefs.

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:17 am**

Ceannairceach wrote:
Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
That wasn't bullshit since most of you are scumbags.

You should know that flaming is against the rules here.

He should know flaming is against his rules anywhere. But apparently not.

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:17 am**

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Hyorius wrote:you deserve it, may Allah curse you.

You know, I'm going to tell Allah you said that at our next card game. I know what his response will be too: He''ll roll his eyes, sigh audibly, mutter something about 'fucking editorial commentaries' and say, "Pass the Cheetos".

Bet he loves all that grovelling each day, though.

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:17 am**

Azarea wrote:
Takaram wrote:
No, nobody really had to. Sorry.

So how do you get something out of nothing? How do you get the first atoms? The first matter?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang_Theory

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:18 am**

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
but somebody had to create Chemistry and Physics!

It ALL starts with a creator.

How is that possible? Isn't a creator part of 'all'? If so, who created the creator?

Stephen Hawking. *nods*

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:18 am**

Takaram wrote:
Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
but somebody had to create Chemistry and Physics!

It ALL starts with a creator.

No, nobody really had to. Sorry.

I don't understand how Chemistry and Physics just happened to be there so they decided "oh, lets create something!"

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:18 am**

Azarea wrote:
Takaram wrote:
No, nobody really had to. Sorry.

So how do you get something out of nothing? How do you get the first atoms? The first matter?

Sudden massive expansion of space-time.

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:19 am**

Norstal wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
How is that possible? Isn't a creator part of 'all'? If so, who created the creator?

Stephen Hawking. *nods*

Yay!

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:19 am**

Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
Takaram wrote:
No, nobody really had to. Sorry.

I don't understand how Chemistry and Physics just happened to be there so they decided "oh, lets create something!"

No, you don't understand Chemistry and Physics. Or the scientific method apparently.

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:19 am**

Arumdaum wrote:
Azarea wrote:Ok, living with a christian family, with lots of christian friends, some points I may not understand, but Yes, I am sure athiests are nice. But I have never ever seen a lets bash athiets thing. period.

Living in a Christian family, with lots of Christian friends.... I understand though.

Personally I've never seen people bash each other due to their beliefs on religion. It's just that many Christians I've met tended to have been very.... negative towards other beliefs. Especially in Korean communities. Korean Christians tend to be very fundamental.

I can understand that as half my family is korean now :lol:

But, yes we are negative toward other beliefs as we think they are not true etc. So do athiests...Why dont athiests go pick on muslims? They have same general beliefs....

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:19 am**

Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Actually, it's you who think magic was involved. We "believe" (I hate using that word in this context but it will have to do) that natural processes - chemistry and physics - caused life to appear.

but somebody had to create Chemistry and Physics!

It ALL starts with a creator.

Even the creator?

Posted: **Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:19 am**

Salaguay wrote:
Meridiani Planum wrote:
1) Where do you live?

2) In what ways do you feel that you are being treated differently?

1) i live in ohio usa.
2) well when people find out there always like wow your stupid. they talk down to me. and i hate it when they try to "save me"
then theres my parents who are constantly trying to get me to be religious.

guess your gona burn in hell

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