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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:00 am

Ferrond wrote:
Ifreann wrote:If people ask or it comes up in conversation, why should someone lie about their beliefs or lack there of.


If someone thinks an honest answer about that matter might bring them problems in the future then they should take the smart way out and lie. If one is an atheist there should be little problem with that, it's not like they're betraying their oaths or something.

So people should just accept that their beliefs will cause them problems and try to hide them, not try and change the situation. Sounds like a recipe for a wonderful world.
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Postby Ferrond » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:00 am

Norstal wrote:
Ferrond wrote:
If someone thinks an honest answer about that matter might bring them problems in the future then they should take the smart way out and lie. If one is an atheist there should be little problem with that, it's not like they're betraying their oaths or something.

That's very unchristian of you, Peter.


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Postby Metanih » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:01 am

Azarea wrote::palm: :palm: :palm: Try being a christian sometimes buddy, being on NS for me makes me feel persecuted. I mean, how many "lets bash athiest" threads are there? none. How many christian? In the past week 3 or 4....

In reality, if you didnt want the attention of having to deal with people bashing your beliefs all around these forums, you would do one or two of three things:
1)Stop posting on forums where it matters.
2)Remove the "Proud Christian" from your sig. That is just asking for it.
3) Quit NS. (Least preferrable option)
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Postby Esternial » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:01 am

Norstal wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Cute, and we don't *bash* christians, we just ask them questions they are too scared to ask themselves.

If anything, I think they just bashed the religion they're trying to defend. Irony.

Agnostics are generally more annoying.

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Postby Novograd IV » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:01 am

Ifreann wrote:
Ferrond wrote:
If someone thinks an honest answer about that matter might bring them problems in the future then they should take the smart way out and lie. If one is an atheist there should be little problem with that, it's not like they're betraying their oaths or something.

So people should just accept that their beliefs will cause them problems and try to hide them, not try and change the situation. Sounds like a recipe for a wonderful world.


it stops all the argument, amirite? :lol:
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Postby Ferrond » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:02 am

Ifreann wrote:
Ferrond wrote:
If someone thinks an honest answer about that matter might bring them problems in the future then they should take the smart way out and lie. If one is an atheist there should be little problem with that, it's not like they're betraying their oaths or something.

So people should just accept that their beliefs will cause them problems and try to hide them, not try and change the situation. Sounds like a recipe for a wonderful world.


That's the world we live in. Smart people adapt, idiots get marginalized at best.

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Postby Azarea » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:03 am

Metanih wrote:
Azarea wrote::palm: :palm: :palm: Try being a christian sometimes buddy, being on NS for me makes me feel persecuted. I mean, how many "lets bash athiest" threads are there? none. How many christian? In the past week 3 or 4....

In reality, if you didnt want the attention of having to deal with people bashing your beliefs all around these forums, you would do one or two of three things:
1)Stop posting on forums where it matters.
2)Remove the "Proud Christian" from your sig. That is just asking for it.
3) Quit NS. (Least preferrable option)

Its not like I personally get bashed except for one or two times, both times he was banned. I am just making a point on it. Can he name ONE athiest bashing thread? Also, how does he feel persecuted...
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Postby Old Sdrawkcab » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:03 am

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Ok, first off you reap what you sow, I am not saying that you have bashed other peoples' religious beliefs but Christians are constantly receiving ridicule from atheists. Along with Muslims, Jews, etc. etc.

No I do not believe that a person should be persecuted for their religion and/or atheist beliefs but it serves you atheist scumbags right for bashing Christians! And why don't you go moan some where else! Not here! >:(

Cute, and we don't *bash* christians, we just ask them questions they are too scared to ask themselves.


I have belonged to many forums, and almost everyone of them has some group of Atheists who make fun of our (Christian) beliefs
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Postby Hyorius » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:03 am

you deserve it, may Allah curse you.
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Postby Takaram » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:03 am

Ferrond wrote:
Ifreann wrote:So people should just accept that their beliefs will cause them problems and try to hide them, not try and change the situation. Sounds like a recipe for a wonderful world.


That's the world we live in. Smart people adapt, idiots get marginalized at best.


I like the better option of telling the bigots who have an issue with me being an atheist to fuck off. I tends to work as a last resort.

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Postby Azarea » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:04 am

Hyorius wrote:you deserve it, may Allah curse you.

lul :lol: :lol:
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Postby Norstal » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:04 am

Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Cute, and we don't *bash* christians, we just ask them questions they are too scared to ask themselves.


I have belonged to many forums, and almost everyone of them has some group of Atheists who make fun of our (Christian) beliefs

So? Isn't that what's supposed to happen? If anything, you should be happy for it.

Goshdarn it folks, read your bibles.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:04 am

Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Cute, and we don't *bash* christians, we just ask them questions they are too scared to ask themselves.


I have belonged to many forums, and almost everyone of them has some group of Atheists who make fun of our (Christian) beliefs

And there are some Christians that are complete assholes to everyone who doesn't share their beliefs.
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Postby Norstal » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:05 am

Hyorius wrote:you deserve it, may Allah curse you.

I feel nothing.

Azarea wrote:
Hyorius wrote:you deserve it, may Allah curse you.

lul :lol: :lol:

And you're unchristian by supporting this.
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Postby Takaram » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:05 am

Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Cute, and we don't *bash* christians, we just ask them questions they are too scared to ask themselves.


I have belonged to many forums, and almost everyone of them has some group of Atheists who make fun of our (Christian) beliefs


Most atheists I know are pleased all to hell to not have to worry about this whole fucking debate. It's only when some fundie goes crazy on us that we retaliate.

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Postby Esternial » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:05 am

Hyorius wrote:you deserve it, may Allah curse you.

Another thing: Why is God so vengeful? Curse this, curse that.

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Postby Ferrond » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:06 am

Takaram wrote:
Ferrond wrote:
That's the world we live in. Smart people adapt, idiots get marginalized at best.


I like the better option of telling the bigots who have an issue with me being an atheist to fuck off. I tends to work as a last resort.


Sure, there are times this works in many circumstances.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:06 am

Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Cute, and we don't *bash* christians, we just ask them questions they are too scared to ask themselves.


I have belonged to many forums, and almost everyone of them has some group of Atheists who make fun of our (Christian) beliefs

OH, heaven forbid people debate on a debate forum! You poor little truffle! :roll: The debates couldn't possibly arise when fundies declare how these people should be killed, or that those people should be exiled to Newfoundland. Nosiree.
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Postby Azarea » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:07 am

Ifreann wrote:
Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
I have belonged to many forums, and almost everyone of them has some group of Atheists who make fun of our (Christian) beliefs

And there are some Christians that are complete assholes to everyone who doesn't share their beliefs.

Yes some Christians. There are also MANY athiests who gladly go "fuck Christianity, they are hypocritical bastards". God, just the other day, this dude was complaining in public about how pathetic Christians were.... Also, you dont bash christians...then quite complaining about us. We would gladl answer questions if you did not just go not true, or just turn away from points we win on :)
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Postby Pomplamouse » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:07 am

Salaguay wrote:im an athiest and i just feel prosecuted for it. not officially but i just feel like im treated diffrently for it. what do you think?


i totally agree

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Postby Takaram » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:08 am

Azarea wrote:
Metanih wrote:In reality, if you didnt want the attention of having to deal with people bashing your beliefs all around these forums, you would do one or two of three things:
1)Stop posting on forums where it matters.
2)Remove the "Proud Christian" from your sig. That is just asking for it.
3) Quit NS. (Least preferrable option)

Its not like I personally get bashed except for one or two times, both times he was banned. I am just making a point on it. Can he name ONE athiest bashing thread? Also, how does he feel persecuted...


Honestly, what is there to bash with atheism? It's a lack of belief, what's to laugh at? You might as well mock space for being cold and having nothing in it.
Also, it's quite easy to feel persecuted as an atheist, I'd imagine. People constantly attacking you for being different, it'd really be no different than any other kind of discrimination and persecution.

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Postby Old Sdrawkcab » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:08 am

Takaram wrote:
Old Sdrawkcab wrote:
I have belonged to many forums, and almost everyone of them has some group of Atheists who make fun of our (Christian) beliefs


Most atheists I know are pleased all to hell to not have to worry about this whole fucking debate. It's only when some fundie goes crazy on us that we retaliate.

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Postby Azarea » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:08 am

Takaram wrote:
Azarea wrote:Its not like I personally get bashed except for one or two times, both times he was banned. I am just making a point on it. Can he name ONE athiest bashing thread? Also, how does he feel persecuted...


Honestly, what is there to bash with atheism? It's a lack of belief, what's to laugh at? You might as well mock space for being cold and having nothing in it.
Also, it's quite easy to feel persecuted as an atheist, I'd imagine. People constantly attacking you for being different, it'd really be no different than any other kind of discrimination and persecution.

Exactl, so wh does he feel persecuted?
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Postby Novograd IV » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:09 am

Azarea wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And there are some Christians that are complete assholes to everyone who doesn't share their beliefs.

Yes some Christians. There are also MANY athiests who gladly go "fuck Christianity, they are hypocritical bastards". God, just the other day, this dude was complaining in public about how pathetic Christians were.... Also, you dont bash christians...then quite complaining about us. We would gladl answer questions if you did not just go not true, or just turn away from points we win on :)


Okay, why did your religion demand that pagans be killed? Or why they were called on to refuse trade with Pagan nations?
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:09 am

Azarea wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And there are some Christians that are complete assholes to everyone who doesn't share their beliefs.

Yes some Christians. There are also MANY athiests who gladly go "fuck Christianity, they are hypocritical bastards". God, just the other day, this dude was complaining in public about how pathetic Christians were.... Also, you dont bash christians...then quite complaining about us. We would gladl answer questions if you did not just go not true, or just turn away from points we win on :)

I think more Christians would do that to atheists rather than atheists to Christians. The majority of atheists I've known in real life were really nice and everything, and they didn't give a shit about what religious beliefs you had.

But Christians....
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