I think he intended to shoot his gun because I don't believe it possible for a person to mistake a taser for a gun when they are totally different.
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by Natapoc » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:09 pm
Gravlen wrote:Natapoc wrote: After all, it's easy to convince jury members of things by selective use of evidence.
Source to back up the implied assertion that it was an unfair trial, and that the prosecution knowingly didn't do their job?Natapoc wrote:The person who was murdered
No conviction for murder exists.Natapoc wrote:of course had no means of defending himself from the allegations Mehserle's legal team was making.
Source to back up the assertion that the prosecution knowingly didn't do their job?
by Gravlen » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:10 pm
Natapoc wrote:Involuntary huh? Yeah that gun just fired itself! I promise! It's like the gun (er I mean taser!) was possessed or something!
Natapoc wrote:And time served was about 11 months... for ending the life of another human being.
by Rokartian States » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:11 pm
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by Gravlen » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:12 pm
Natapoc wrote:Gravlen wrote:Source to back up the implied assertion that it was an unfair trial, and that the prosecution knowingly didn't do their job?
No conviction for murder exists.
Source to back up the assertion that the prosecution knowingly didn't do their job?
I never made such an assertion. But I'm not denying the possibility.
by Natapoc » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:15 pm
by Galla- » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:17 pm
Wiztopia wrote:Galla- wrote:Grant was resisting arrest. That is enough to warrant a taser. The shock on Mehsenrles' face and his intentions to tase Mr. Grant are enough to warrant a manslaughter charge.
Do you want him shot or hung on live television, or something?
No he was on the ground and Mehserle pulled out his "taser" for no reason. The shock was bullshit to throw them off because of what he knew he was doing. It was plain murder and every single one of those jury members who convicted him for manslaughter deserve to die along with Mehserle.
Vernii wrote:Quick reminder: Tasers and firearms are carried on opposite sides of the belt, have different weights, and the taser is clearly marked as such. It would be pretty damn hard to mistake the two. Furthermore, if the officer was indeed simply mistaking him, that shows he is incompetent and shouldn't be allowed back on the force. In addition, it undermines community relations to allow him back anyway.
Not to mention, that a simple year in prison for manslaughter for ending the existence of another human being through either incompetence or on purpose is a complete joke when one considers the privileges and authority that come with his position. With privilege comes responsibility, and if someone doesn't want to bear the consequences of incompetence or poor decision making, they shouldn't become a police officer. Far too often nowadays, cops get off with lighter consequences for decisions that would ruin the lives of any civilian who made the same mistake. They have their uniform, their departments, and the justice system to shield them from their mistakes, and that simply cannot be allowed to continue. It is for this reason I have developed a contempt for law enforcement.
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by Natapoc » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:26 pm
by Libertarian Mesa » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:44 pm
by Galla- » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:44 pm
Fashiontopia wrote:Look don't come here talking bad about Americans, that will get you cussed out faster than relativity.
Besides: Most posters in this thread are Americans, and others who are non-Americans have no problems co-existing so shut that trap...
by Natapoc » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:47 pm
Libertarian Mesa wrote:Why was he put in jail at all? It's sad that a man was killed, but could be dangerous!
by Gun Manufacturers » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:50 pm
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by Galla- » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:51 pm
Fashiontopia wrote:Look don't come here talking bad about Americans, that will get you cussed out faster than relativity.
Besides: Most posters in this thread are Americans, and others who are non-Americans have no problems co-existing so shut that trap...
by Natapoc » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:53 pm
by Norstal » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:53 pm
Libertarian Mesa wrote:Why was he put in jail at all? It's sad that a man was killed, but could be dangerous!
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by Libertarian Mesa » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:54 pm
Natapoc wrote:Libertarian Mesa wrote:Why was he put in jail at all? It's sad that a man was killed, but could be dangerous!
Well I suppose the cop could have been tried, convicted, and executed on the spot just like he did when he shot the unarmed man...
But the justice system just does not work like that.
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